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While attending the SHOT Show in Las Vegas I observed a rifle stock with an ammo compartment http://www.wilddogaustralia.com thought it was interesting.

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24mod12 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .243 Winchester Joined: 06 May 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 231	Post Options Post Reply Quote 24mod12 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Unique Rifle Stock Posted: 02 June 2006 at 12:01
	While attending the SHOT Show in Las Vegas I observed a rifle stock with an ammo compartment http://www.wilddogaustralia.com thought it was interesting.

Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 June 2006 at 02:28
	Just some thoughts. Stock looks OK and if priced competitive with other carbon/glass stocks would be OK. I've never thought that except for sniper stocks and turkey hunting, that camo patterns stocks were needed. So the camo patterns they tout don't mean much to me. The square ammo box door on the side of the butt-stock lots awful to me. Maybe I could get use to it. I realize it is a function vs. looks issue. The stock weight and balance also change with the number of shells stored! The concept of carrying ammo in the stock, doesn't seem to be a big deal for me. I carry only 6 shots (3 in gun 3 in pockets) when hunting deer/antelope/etc. Hunting squirrel and small game with a 22 I carry a box of shells. If I carry more shells they are usually in my pack. This seems to add weight to rifles, opposite to my general desire. Seems to again be a solution to a non-problem. Just my thoughts, I'm actually anxious to hear what others think. I note no long actions stock.....yet, guess that will come with time. BEAR Edited by BEAR

NH_Hunter Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby aka The Kid Joined: 13 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3508	Post Options Post Reply Quote NH_Hunter Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 June 2006 at 03:30
	Well, after looking at them, and giving it some thought, I don't like the idea, and here is the reason for that. It completely changes the balance characteristics of the rifle. It makes the rifle butt heavy, and I don't like that. Also, the buttstock looks huge and about useless for anything but target/LE work. I also noted the fact that they don't have a lefty-friendly design, so that excludes a good # of customers. When I go hunting, I have my bolt action loaded with 4 in the mag, 1 in the tube, as well as 10 on one of those federal belt cartridge carriers (love those things). I do the same in my Marlin 336. Never used more than 1 shot, but you never know. I know one thing though; I would much rather have that extra ammo on my belt than on the rifle. An extra 10 rounds or so adds a good chunk of weight to a rifle; especially with rounds like the .300 WSM. If that weight is on your body, you can't even notice it, but if it is on your rifle, than that changes the balance and increases the weight of it (both -'s in my opinion).
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mr mom Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .30/06 SpringField Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 342	Post Options Post Reply Quote mr mom Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 June 2006 at 07:30
	i had 1 of my silouette shoots today . 1 of the shooters showed up with a stock made out of a 2x4 !!!!! it was about 3 ft. long and had 1 hole so he could get to the trigger. we told him he needed some nails bent over and he could use a set of saw horses for a bi pod..... the guy was just playing around , but he got beat by 1 of the new shooters.. next time he says hi is bringing 1 of his good rifles...
	mr mom

Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 June 2006 at 08:06
	Mr M Was it a Savage barreled-action? BEAr

Kingpin Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby aka Old IronSides Joined: 01 July 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 11716	Post Options Post Reply Quote Kingpin Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 June 2006 at 10:52
	The ammo storage concept isn't new, but this one sure is novel. In some of the better eruopean rifles, there are "cartridge traps" and Brownells sells them as a kit to install them. Well, I know they DID, but haven't looked for one or at one in the catalogue in a while. Anyway, if anyone buys one, do us all a favor and give it your review......Kingpin
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hunter-fisher Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .30/06 SpringField Joined: 29 August 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 264	Post Options Post Reply Quote hunter-fisher Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 June 2006 at 12:29
	I myself think it looks ugly. Besides, I, like some of you, only carry 4 rounds of ammo. 3 in the rifle and 1 in my shirt pocket. Hell, if I can't get my deer with 4 shots, I don't belong in the woods.
	Its Not The Kill, But The Hunt.

Bushie-Bob Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .22 LongRifle Joined: 03 June 2006 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 14	Post Options Post Reply Quote Bushie-Bob Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 June 2006 at 14:12
	I have actually handled a Win 70 with one of these stocks. My hunting buddy just bought one for his .270WSM. I was a bit dubious myself until I got to handle it. The balance seems fine, even when there are seven rounds in the hatch. The cartridges don't rattle at all either, which I thought they might do. The ammo storage is useful for Australian hunting conditions, where for a lot of game there are no seasons or bag limits. Typically we drive around until we spot a mob of pigs then bail out of the vehicle and go after them thru the bush on foot and shoot as many as we can. Backpacks and gear on belts can be a nuisance when jumping in and out of a vehicle and pushing thru the bush on foot. The stock I saw is just plain olive. I don't think the paint scheme really matters in a hunting situation. It's just a personal taste thing I reckon.

mr mom Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .30/06 SpringField Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 342	Post Options Post Reply Quote mr mom Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 June 2006 at 14:26
	bear: beleave it or not but it was an anchutz action ....
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Gunrunner Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby Forest Grump Joined: 05 July 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1970	Post Options Post Reply Quote Gunrunner Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 June 2006 at 14:40
	If a 2x4 makes a fair rifle, what makes a good rifle?...1.5x3? mrmom, gesundheit.
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Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04 June 2006 at 03:26
	Anschutz one of my favorite action and rifles. Is it now distressed???? I would take it of his hands.....give it a good home .....and restock! BEAR

Big Sky Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .375 Holland & Holland Magnum Joined: 10 February 2004 Status: Offline Points: 582	Post Options Post Reply Quote Big Sky Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 June 2006 at 07:52
	I don't have any problem with the stock. If it's good and stiff towards the forearm and tough as nails from butt to tip, I could like it. As far as changing the balance of the rifle, I highly doubt it. People have been putting nylon belt ammo holders on their rifle butts for years. I used to, but found out that I usually lose several rounds after a hard day of hiking in the thick stuff. Regardless it never really screwed with the rifles overall balance much. I like the concept behind this new rifle stock. I'd like to know what they cost?

fish Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .375 Holland & Holland Magnum Joined: 06 February 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 584	Post Options Post Reply Quote fish Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 June 2006 at 08:31
	i like that camo pattern just because it's cool ... can't say as i need anything but a pocket or a fanny pack for extra ammo.
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