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update -

as everyone knows, we have taken in a LOT beyond the actual cost of the binocs. with the extra funds, i have taken the liberty of using 20$ in order to purchase two books for gene and/or anyone else in his unit who may benefit from them. the books are the US Army/Marine Corps Counterinsurgency (COIN) Manual and a US Army field manual written in 1943 titled: "Instructions for US Servicemen in Iraq"

after doing quite a bit of research on these books, i am convinced that they will prove very useful to gene and anyone else who reads them. i should receive the books at the same time as the binocs (which have been ordered) and the tactical knife, so they and will all be shipped to gene in iraq together.

for information on the ww2 field manual, click here.

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update:

book, knife and field manuals (COIN manual and reprint of 1943 "instructions for american servicemen in iraq") should be arriving here this week, with the harness (donated by an australian member of AR)  expected not too long after; i will box them all together with a few other things i have been collecting and will ship them to gene. donated funds continue to come in, and i will be contacting those who contributed about what to do with the surplus funds.

some suggestions from people have been:

*donation to a soldier/marine-related charity in gene's name

*a 2nd pair of binocs for whomever is watching gene's back

*an extensive collection of books, magazines etc.

*body armor and/or helmet (providing that something better than GI issued is available)

*recreational items and hard-to-get items such as good coffee, etc.

*reserving surplus funds until the holidays and sending a big care package for gene and his boys

there have been others, but i am at work and need to be getting back to it. y'all get the idea and any other suggestions will be appreciated.

my continuing thanks and appreciation to all who have shown moral support and financial support. i've received PMs and other messages of encouragement from many, many members and even from some places i wouldn't have expected. i am grateful to all.
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awesome, terry - and i agree this is a great place for it!
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update - binocs should be arriving today - will let everyone know when they arrive.
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Could hold on till the next sandbox need?
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update - today i received the two field manuals mentioned earlier. i won't be able to go through the COIN manual until after work this evening, but the 1943 guide to iraq is very interesting. after skimming through it i can say that it certainly would have been valuable in 2003.

it serves as an introduction not only into iraq, but also into middle eastern and muslim culture. it puts the information forward in an easy-to-understand and forthright manner that is accessible to anyone and is in some ways more relevant today than it was in 1943:

Quote you aren't going to iraq to change the iraqis. just the opposite. we are fighting this war to preserve the principle of "live and let live." maybe that sounded like a lot of words to you back home. now you have a chance to prove it to yourself and others. If you can, it's going to be a better world to live in for all of us.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 August 2007 at 12:42

Maybe we could ask Timber about a need some other hero in the sandbox has and maybe help him or her out?

 

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Yeah.  How about another pair of binos?
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Fella's;

If there's enough left over, maybe we could charter a Hooter's gal to deliver them goods?  Hell, contact Hooter's maybe they'd join us & do the delivery for a good ole Texas boy on their own hook.

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does anyone know anything about this dragonskin armor? is it better than what the army issues? what does it cost? how about a helmet?
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update: the steiners arrived yesterday. they are real and i held them in my hand. they are top quality and i know that they will prove useful to gene in getting himself and his boys home safely.

we are still looking at options for the extra funds. i'll be in touch with contributors about that when things settle down a bit.
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Tash,

I saw an episode of some news magazine on TV about Dragon Skin Armor, if that's the one with the smal scales.  It tested much more effective by at least one independent lab, and was tested again for the report.  Word is the army brass downplayed their testing results to award the contract to a preferred supplier, safety of the troops notwithstanding.  I don't know if that's entirely accurate, but from the test I witnessed on TV, the stuff stopped bullets better, and left no critical areas exposed like what they are currently using.  Also, it seems the CIA, private security forces, and some high level military officers are wearing the Dragon Skin.  It's heavy, and the army says it doesn't hold up well to heat.  Here's a link:

http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htinf/articles/20070814.asp x

Maybe we outta jus' get another grunt a pair of Steiners.



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I saw the same show as Mule did.  The stuff looked pretty good.  I don't think Uncle Sam is allowing the troops to wear it as it isn't GI - gotta keep uniformity and such.  Still, I'd bet that more than one commander turns an eye to it if someone has one on. 

I'd just wait to see what Timber or grunt X needs and go from there with the additional funds.

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Hey fellas.I am alive and well.I am waiting on a c130 into lsa Anaconda at the moment and had a few minutes on my buddys laptop to talk.

I appreciate what all of you have done for me.It is moving to say the least that guys would go out of their way to pitch in on stuff on my behalf.It means a lot.

I dont know what to say about the extra stuf Tash.I will leave it up to you guys as just about anything is appreciated over here.

I dont have much time on the internet as other guys need to use this computer but I wanted to say thank you to everyone who has been in on this .Sincerely,it does mean a lot to me.

So for now,I will close and wish you all well..

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It's my understanding that the Dragonskin armor is very expensive.  Something like $7,000.00 for one person.  Maybe a military contract would bring the price down?  Hell, it'd more likely make it go up!

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Wear-ability is a very important factor in body armor.  I'd not buy something until you get a field evaluation from  Gene or others in the sandbox.  TV evaluators are worthless.

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to all -

i received the last of the equipment (a binoc harness donated by an australian soldier) today. i will ship all of this out tomorrow or wednesday. thanks to all for your help on this, and be looking for updates soon.
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hmmmm.... Hey fella's long time no see.  I'm piching in too - how about a stabilizing mechanism for those binoc's?  the roads over here suck ass and are potholed to make New York look smooth as a babys' butt.  Yeah, I'm back in Iraq, too, but this time I'm a CIV.  I haven't forgot the gear everyone sent me last time And I'm damn sure not gonna be left out on giving back - let me know what I gotta do to help Tas

Oh, and I'm not to sure about how the army handles outside procurment of body armor.  Not to squash a great Idea, but it might screw up Life insureance disbursement - Heaven FORBID - or some other Army beurocratic bullshit. 

Here's a way to understand the heat over here - preheat your ovan to 400, get a fan & turn it on full blast, then, with the fan inches from your face, open the ovan door and stick your head with fan still in your face inside. 

That's out in the open air.

Timber's trucks he rolls around in...  multiply above said sensation by, i don't know, 100?  And he & his are subjected to this for hours on end.  How about some cooling aparatuses - personal or area - able to fit in a vehicle, but cannot alter the vehicle wiring.  Find that & we'll have done more than anything 

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