OK

   I,ll help !

Whats the best way for me to send some money,  tj3006

count me in.

BEAR

Ron,

You know I'm in.  Just gotta find somewhere to send the $$$.  Any takers on being the accountant yet?

Gentlemen,I don`t know what to say except for thanks.I mean that wholeheartedly.A lot of folks could care less about us and it means something special to me to know guys will go out of there way to help me do my job and do it as safe as I can.

Gene

Much appreciated Tash.Tell your wife and mother that their support is the best thing they can give us.It makes it worth something to know people are behind us,no matter what their sentiments are to the war or president,they support us.It matters to us bro!!!Again my sincere thanks gents.

Gene

Hey guys Steiner marine 7x50's are waterproof,,shockproof to 20 G's and go for $ 300.00 with 10 year warranty and best of all they are steiners!!!!!

whats ya think??

p.s.,they are NOT O.D.,,and I don't know about reflection reducing coating on the objective glass

Big Open;

If you can get the Steiner Military-Marine model 275 for $300.00, you da man.  That's way cheaper than I can get them. 

900F

Count me in too. Just get organized...the rest will be easy. :o)

I'm in.

DD

Fella's;

I can get the Military-Marine 275, but not at $300.00, more like $425.00. 

900F

Just caught this thread and I want to be in also, Tas, let me know how much and where you need it sent,

Rick

I just caught the thread myself,...

Count me in also  just email me to let me know where to send some $$

I am wondering if 7X35's are gonna be enough to do him much good, wouldnt 10X50's be better or even more power?

Just a thought fellas.

Tas Money order on the way same way I sent you the Lee Tool.

Rick

PM sent

huntin1

Tas, If funds are short for the 10X50 let me know, I feel pretty strongly about this and will kick it up some more if needed.

Rick

TAZ,.. just got your PM tonight,... $$ to be sent out to the address you gave on Monday the 6th.

Personally I'd think 10X40's as a minimum power wise,.. another thing to think about is the weight of the glasses. Don't want them to be like a anchor. Those guys have enough weight to lug around as it is. Maybe a bino strap system too,..Just a thought.

I remember all the crap I was suppose to lug around,.. wound up stashin' alot of it most times out and took just the essentials.

That model is $719 at the Optic Zone.

http://theopticzone.com/searchresult.aspx?CategoryID=113 - http://theopticzone.com/searchresult.aspx?CategoryID=113

huntin1

The 10x50 Military R model is the one with the range finding reticule.

The 10x50 Military 210 is the one without the range finding retical.

http://www.opticsplanet.net/steiner-10x50-military-marine.html - http://www.opticsplanet.net/steiner-10x50-military-marine.ht ml

Just a thought here, may need to ask if the one with or without the range finding retical is preferred. The retical can get in the way sometimes when trying to view objects.

$$ order went in the mail this morning    ,... should be at your PO Box by Friday I'd guess.

Let me know you received it when it gets there.

Thanks for all your work on this Tas, I am glad its going to work out.

Rick

My wife sent this to me today,.. I thought this to be as appropriate a thread to put it as any.

This is awesome !

http://www.youtube.com/jp.swf?video_id=ervaMPt4Ha0&eurl=http%3A//by101w.bay101.mail.live.com/mail/ApplicationMain_12.0.1184.0809.aspx%3Fculture%3Den-US%26hash%3D811405839&iurl=http%3A//img.youtube.com/vi/ervaMPt4Ha0/default.jpg&t=OEgsToPDskIrvS76fkgR9wDZl6YI1BTh&autoplay=1 - http://www.youtube.com/jp.swf?video_id=ervaMPt4Ha0&eurl= http%3A//by101w.bay101.mail.live.com/mail/ApplicationMain_12 .0.1184.0809.aspx%3Fculture%3Den-US%26hash%3D811405839&i url=http%3A//img.youtube.com/vi/ervaMPt4Ha0/default.jpg& t=OEgsToPDskIrvS76fkgR9wDZl6YI1BTh&autoplay=1

Maybe we could ask Timber about a need some other hero in the sandbox has and maybe help him or her out?

Rick

Fella's;

If there's enough left over, maybe we could charter a Hooter's gal to deliver them goods?  Hell, contact Hooter's maybe they'd join us & do the delivery for a good ole Texas boy on their own hook.

900F

Tash,

I saw an episode of some news magazine on TV about Dragon Skin Armor, if that's the one with the smal scales.  It tested much more effective by at least one independent lab, and was tested again for the report.  Word is the army brass downplayed their testing results to award the contract to a preferred supplier, safety of the troops notwithstanding.  I don't know if that's entirely accurate, but from the test I witnessed on TV, the stuff stopped bullets better, and left no critical areas exposed like what they are currently using.  Also, it seems the CIA, private security forces, and some high level military officers are wearing the Dragon Skin.  It's heavy, and the army says it doesn't hold up well to heat.  Here's a link:

http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htinf/articles/20070814.asp x - http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htinf/articles/20070814.asp x

Maybe we outta jus' get another grunt a pair of Steiners.

I saw the same show as Mule did.  The stuff looked pretty good.  I don't think Uncle Sam is allowing the troops to wear it as it isn't GI - gotta keep uniformity and such.  Still, I'd bet that more than one commander turns an eye to it if someone has one on. 

I'd just wait to see what Timber or grunt X needs and go from there with the additional funds.

Hey fellas.I am alive and well.I am waiting on a c130 into lsa Anaconda at the moment and had a few minutes on my buddys laptop to talk.

I appreciate what all of you have done for me.It is moving to say the least that guys would go out of their way to pitch in on stuff on my behalf.It means a lot.

I dont know what to say about the extra stuf Tash.I will leave it up to you guys as just about anything is appreciated over here.

I dont have much time on the internet as other guys need to use this computer but I wanted to say thank you to everyone who has been in on this .Sincerely,it does mean a lot to me.

So for now,I will close and wish you all well..

Gene

It's my understanding that the Dragonskin armor is very expensive.  Something like $7,000.00 for one person.  Maybe a military contract would bring the price down?  Hell, it'd more likely make it go up!

F00!!

Wear-ability is a very important factor in body armor.  I'd not buy something until you get a field evaluation from  Gene or others in the sandbox.  TV evaluators are worthless.

BEAR

hmmmm.... Hey fella's long time no see.  I'm piching in too - how about a stabilizing mechanism for those binoc's?  the roads over here suck ass and are potholed to make New York look smooth as a babys' butt.  Yeah, I'm back in Iraq, too, but this time I'm a CIV.  I haven't forgot the gear everyone sent me last time And I'm damn sure not gonna be left out on giving back - let me know what I gotta do to help Tas

Oh, and I'm not to sure about how the army handles outside procurment of body armor.  Not to squash a great Idea, but it might screw up Life insureance disbursement - Heaven FORBID - or some other Army beurocratic bullshit. 

Here's a way to understand the heat over here - preheat your ovan to 400, get a fan & turn it on full blast, then, with the fan inches from your face, open the ovan door and stick your head with fan still in your face inside. 

That's out in the open air.

Timber's trucks he rolls around in...  multiply above said sensation by, i don't know, 100?  And he & his are subjected to this for hours on end.  How about some cooling aparatuses - personal or area - able to fit in a vehicle, but cannot alter the vehicle wiring.  Find that & we'll have done more than anything 

Not anymore Mule, for some reason the military started to encourage it's members not to smoke - the newer vehicles don't have lighter sockets. 

That being said, I've seen some pretty ingenious additions of sockets into said vehicles - not leagle, mind you.  oh, and the vehicles tend to run higher VDC systems than normal vehicles.  I'm not a ground mech. so I'm not sure what the electrics are, but the helos run 28 VDC / 115 VAC @ 400 Hz.

On top of it, as usual, tas.

Hey mountain, I uderstand you line of thought with the air conditioning, but considr this...  weather they're (Soldiers) are sleeping in tents or C.H.U.'s (Mini three room trailers - each room having it's own outside door & sealed from the other rooms), they have airconditioning.  Because of the heat, even at a conditioners lowest setting inside temp is 80-85 deg. F.  Still a severe temp difference, yes, but not hypothermic. 

I don't know how you did it in the '50's, I can't sleep for shit when the power's out - something about laying in a puddle of sweat after ten minutes just curdles my stomach.

Hey Gene,

   Sorry we didn't link up yeasterday, maybe if there's a little more fore warning I can plan to take the next day off (I.E. stay up later).  BTW, I understand 'bout no warning - OPSEC & all.

  As for your fridge, the PX here has a few 220V LG minni fridges.  The kind you'd find in a hotel room or under a counter.  If you'll get me a DHL or FED EX addy for you, I'll pick one up & send it to ya.  I have one - works great - and CB knows what kind of lock works in it (Put one on mine).  I can get a case of Monsters, a case of Starbucks DoubleShot, a 12pk of starbucks frappacino's, and a 12 pack of soda in mine with a little room left over.  Let me know.

G.

Taz;

I know, from Garou, that DHL ships to Iraq.

900F

garou,

If you can introduce a water mist onto the cooling fins of your AC you might be able to reduce your room temperature a bit more while saving on electricity.

It might be worth the effort. Try it and let us know if it is worth the effort to do the misting. It is something that you ought to be able to feel right away. If you had access to a thermometer you could measure the change in the ac air temperature recirculating in your hooch immediately. You could use a hand pump pressure sprayer for the test. If this seems worthwhile there are commercial air misting kits available here that readily fit any AC. I don't know about GI ACs though.

This might be something the higher-ups might be interested in?

FYI....

"AC Mister combines a number of features in such a way as to make it possible for customers to be able to improve the efficiency of their current air conditioner with a very simple installation. AC Mister will also reduce the power consumption of current air conditioners, both window and central types.

The increased efficiency of current air conditioner systems comes from the application of several engineering principles. Water under available pressure is released through a nozzle to produce a spray mist into the incoming air stream of the compressor.

The Process
First, the water is slightly cooled as the pressure is released. Second, and most important, as the water mist is released into the air stream it evaporates almost instantly and reduces the temperature of the cooling air to the condenser coils by about 20°F. Third, some of the moisture will wet the cooling coil surfaces, which will transfer heat more efficiently. Fourth, the moisture in contact with the elevated temperature of the cooling coil will evaporate to provide additional cooling.

The Effect
The effect of this improved cooling will reduce the power input required by the compressor to provide high-pressure liquid (Freon or other). The high-pressure liquid going to the condenser will also be at a reduced temperature." [copied this from a web site.]

http://www.acmister.com/products/ - http://www.acmister.com/products/

Tas.

  After reading the thread I had a thought (doesn't happen often)  alot of the police supplies around here sell a T-Shirt that goes on under the armor that has cloth ribs running verticial on the shirt.  They work well in keeping the armor directly off of you and allows a little ventilation so that it keeps you a tad cooler.  I can find out how much they are now and we can see about getting them in the right color as well.  Just let me know, this may be a good second care package item.

  Take care Be safe Poacher.

TasunkaWitko

Does TimberGhozt have family (wife, son, daughter) here in the States? I have been sponsoring a service member’s family (a buddy of mine’s son) to help with incidental expenses. It is really tough on the families left behind. Maybe some funds towards this side of the equation may be beneficial.

Even though I am a little late in the mix, I am more than happy to assist. Let me know what I can do.

Doc

Welcome to the forum Doc, big of you for your suggestion and offer.

is Doc a nickname or are you a real Doc?

Rick

Rick, I am a doctor of the PhD variety. I am a microbiologist running a research lab for a large pharm/chem company in the South. Getting to the point of retirement so that I can spend more time hunting, fishing, and pissing off liberals.

Howdy all,

      My laptop's power supply shit itself, so I had to borrow one for a minute...

      Sam - Good Idea, and yes it works.  We have some big ass mobile swamp coolers we use to cool the areas around the aircraft in the hangar - 6'x6' cardbaord drip area with a 4' diameter fan pulling air through the "waterfall".  There is a water reservior at the bottom we fill every couple of hours. A pump pushes the water through piping to a PVC tube with holes drilled in it.  The water flows down the cardboard and cools the airflow.  It make a hugely noticable difference in temperature.  They are called a "Port-A-Cool".

      Poacher - I can't recall the manufacture of the vest, but Brigade Quartermasters sells 'em.  If memory serves they run somewhere in the 20-30$ range.  They also make a liner for the PSGT and ACG helmets.  All three types are sold at the PX's here.  I never bothered with one because I didn't wear the armor for any great length of time all that often.  And I figured it would be more of a pain in my ass getting into and out of than the armor vest already was.  But that's a personal choice/opinion.  They gave me a vest for this trip too, but I have yet to wear it.  In fact the last time I saw it was when we had to move 140 guys into 8 tents from the 13 we had originally.  As for wether or not it works - couldn't say, haven't tried or run accross someone who has.

Have you sen a "Ballistic Gauntlet"?  It lines the Humv.  Floor/seat etc ?

Seem to reduce IED damage in non-armor vehicles.

BEAR