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    Posted: 20 April 2010 at 05:23

See the new Savage/Stevens EDGE????

Tough to believe that Savage could make a gun uglier than the 110!  But they did.

As Savage keeps raising thier rifle prices, locally they are higher than Remington, they wanted a low end rifle that looks like a low end rifle to make the old Tomatoe Stakes look better by comparison.

I also notice that over the lst 5 years Remington prices are way up there.  Weatherby and Kimber are looking like bargains for what you get.

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OK, but I still REFUSE to buy a savage.................Kingpin
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Remington's gone into the toilet.  There's plenty of market for Savage if they keep improving quality.  That 10FP is the most interesting rifle I've seen in a while.
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All people have taste. Some only have it in their mouth..............................Kingpin
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Irish Bird Dog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 April 2010 at 14:36
Well you guys I happen to own and like the Savage M110 series of rifles......got my first one in 1972 the others are of the same vintage and never a hiccup from any of them..I got started on them cuz they was the first LEFTHAND bolt guns in my price range.....but then I'm just a poorboy from the country and don' get to town much..... but I did see an advertising picture of the "Edge" so don't know anymore than that about it.......
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Be that as it may, but we ALL know that they are not legendary. They work and that's all you can hope for, but they sure aren't classics.If I see a Remington I don't like I don't buy it. If I see a SAKO I like, I buy it. I don't profess that anyone boycott savage, I just say that I would prefer a sharp stick than to buy a savage. My Personal opinion.................................Kingpin
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Let's just say that in a sea of Anschutz's, Rem 40x's, Merkles, Greeners, McMillans, and stuff like that I have no need for a savage of any type. Now, that's not to say that when I was starting out that I didn't own a few, but one day, I looked in my gun cabinet and was pleased with not too much, so I loaded them up (the cheap ones, about a dozen of them) and took them to my local sport shop and got two good rifles, both Remingtons. Since that fateful day, I have always leaned towards the quality stuff that I was very proud to own. These days, I buy used Rem 700's to build what I don't have. I also try to snap up every SAKO that I can. In handguns, I lean the same way. I can't explain it, it just happens. I also know that they make fords and Chevys, and even Yugo's. I won't go there though.....................................Kingpin
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Well you know what "they" say.......opinions are like a**holes.....everybody has one.
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 I've pretty much lost all interest in any factory rifle. I used to have a ton of different rifles and was always horse trading, perhaps a phase. I'd rather have one good rifle than a safe full of ho hum factory guns. Of course the definition of good is different to all of us. Some of us just need it to go bang with some level of acceptable accuracy. Arguing of brands is simply a Ford vs Chevy thing any more. A more accurate argument may be bang for the buck. Savage certainly does well there but IMO Ruger has them all beat in that department. Even cartridges are so close in such large groups that in reality arguing that is also just banter. In the end if it turns your crank then you found your rifle.

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The 10FP is not a "starter's rifle" by any stretch.

Law Enforcement, military, and specialized civilian "contractors" sometimes have the need to precisely place bullets onto a target at varying distances. This type of precision shooting is akin to the needs of a big game hunter, except that the situation is usually much more critical, and the outcome extremely grave. Precision shooting in these situations usually calls for an accurate combination of rifle, ammo, and shooter.  Many government agencies and contractors working for these agencies in foreign countries spend thousands of dollars to acquire the best precision equipment available. It is not unusual for some large SWAT units to spend three thousand dollars on a rifle, in addition to the scope and mounts. For that amount of money, there are some fine semi-custom rifles available that are very reliable, and exceedingly accurate. These rifles are usually based on a stock hunting rifle design that has been accurized and tweaked a bit by a custom gunsmith. The rifles are bedded into a synthetic stock, given a dull black finish and a better trigger, and shipped in a nice hard case. These are usually very good, precise, and accurate rifles, and are well worth the thousands of dollars spent. However, for a fraction of the price, you can just buy a new Savage .308 Law Enforcement series rifle, and get the same excellent accuracy and reliability, along with a better trigger.

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The 10FP that you describe is bought because of budgetary constraints. In other words, LOW BID. Their quality is coming up, but, scum rises to the top of a pond too......................Kingpin
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Scum may rise, but sh!t also sinks.  Remington is on its way down.
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......the Remington M700 has been the base for a lot of military "sniper" rifles over the years......as was the M70 Winchester....and the bolt action Rugers are just "civilianized" Mausers.......and so it goes......many of the custom guns are super but they also get lots of specialized attention and material etc and cost is not the factor driving them....so the OFFtheRACK guns for most of us mere mortals are more then adequate nearly all the time for our needs......and generally fit our meger budgets.......

.........so in the end it is as Rob1 said "if it turns your crank then you found your rifle".  THE END!

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Yeah, but that doesn't mean changing ownership, manufacturing techniques, or financial troubles in these corporations doesn't have an impact on the crank.  FN rescued Winchester, and puts out a decent, but not legendary product.  A few years ago I would have much rather had a Remington than a Winchester.  Now that's changed.  That's a valid discussion no matter what you're cranking.  In a couple years, when Kimber gets in trouble or the current management changes, I imagine there could be a change in the 8400 that would make a Savage 110 a better alternative.
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Yes Mule, I heard they are going to install tabs on the barrels to make it easier to tie your plants to.........................Kingpin
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Love that one KP.LOL

 

I'm going to add some smal breadbag ties to my Savage barrel, just to provoke a "what are those?"Clap

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yuh know what guys........SAVAGE is still an AMERCIAN company albet they do import some firearms under the Stevens name
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Tue IBD, but they are rough guns and basically ugly.

I have a 338 mag and a Mark-2 22RF.  Wish I'd have gotten the CZ 22.

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Same can be said of any AR-15.

I held one of these in my hands for about 2 minutes, and it was as good as any off the shelf Remington.  Trigger was GREAT!  If they only made it in '06, I'd buy one.

 



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I saw it too Mule, and it's just the thing that every cabbage patch commando needs. Sniper rifle??? That's a good one. LOL.............................Kingpin
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