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 Topic: Interesting Protection gunPosted: 26 March 2011 at 00:54 |
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Always looking at guns, especially something special. The 351PD caught my eye as the ideal Personal Defense weapon. This is Especially suited for a non-shooting wife. It is super light, 11 oz. enough power for a defensive gun with a cylinder full. No safety, levers, magzine releases to confuse or remember, just point and shoot. The Hi-viz sight come up fst ad look great. Might have to get some on my 442. Seems the gun has been out a few years, but I've not seen them. I suspect that the public wants MORE POWER!!!!
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Irish Bird Dog
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Posted: 26 March 2011 at 01:19 |
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"The Hi-viz sight come up fst ad look great. Might have to get some on my 442." so says the Bear....
pick on brer Bear day....why do you need a hi-viz sight on a "belly" gun????  As you said in another post self defense guns are close range, 20yd or less......point & shoot....at close range sights are a mute point .......2" or less bbl has darn short sighting radius anyway.....best accuracy at 7yds most likely....the hi-viz sights need light to "glow" so no help in the dark...at "belly" gun distances again just point and shoot...instinctive shooting...kinda like pointing your finger. ....center mass....the object of your intentions with a short bbl gun. more..."enough power for a defensive gun with a cylinder full. This from a Bear who advocates only loading 4 rds in his 5 rd cylinder in his own personal defense .38 SPL......  gun ad glitch in picture vs ad type below Model 351PD
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Posted: 26 March 2011 at 04:00 |
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Shooters have problems with combat close or far shooting. In a stressful action, we work on instinct. And a shooters instinct is to see sights. It has been so many years that I've shoot competition that I doubt I could look across a barrel without looking for the sights (delay). Also the glow sight can be used to practice at range work. As I said, "perfect for the non-shooting wife". I believe the rear sight is just the standard J-frame U notch; and as you point out the ad is probably wrong. Don't you think it is perfect defense weapon for a non-shooting wife (never get a girl-friend a gun)??? Edited by BEAR |
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Posted: 26 March 2011 at 04:12 |
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Should have mentioned my love with the high=Vis sights. About 10 years ago I lost sight in my right eye (diabetes) after some time and laser treatments, I slowly gained about 50% back. Even the diabetes changes my sight on a day-to-day basis. Most days I can shoot right handed. but the overall sight loss, made my brain(that little thing pickled in vodka) switch me from right eye dominance to left eye dominance. On rifles that doesn't matter. But on shotguns where I shoot right handed my left eye takes over. This results in cross shooting, and my pattern always goes to the right of the target. My left eye is looking across my body to the sight or tip of the barrel, even when I just point and shoot. To overcome that problem I've found a high- vis sight made by EASY SIGHT is nothing short of fantastic. I now have them on all my shotguns. The sight glass is n a hollow tube, so you only see red when you are looking with your right eye and you right eye is centered on the stock. http://www.tomknapp.net/news/detail.php?ID=21
I even put an Easy Hit sight on my Zouve rifle (really looks out of place) but I hunt with it for deer. works for me. |
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Posted: 26 March 2011 at 04:16 |
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Actually the average gunfight takes place at 12 feet or less with 1.8 rounds expended. Snub nose revolvers are great decievers in the accuracy department. Most S&W snubbies I have shot are very accurate at great distances, not that I would want to engage a target at 75 yards with one though, but at that distance, they are a lot better than a sharp stick. For their intended purpose, they are a fist full of dynamite. On the Hi Vis sights, I am not a subscriber and have tried them on several guns with not a lotof satisfaction. Guys like them and that's OK too, just not for me.................Kingpin
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Posted: 26 March 2011 at 05:37 |
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Speaking of S&W snubbies at long range...... |
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When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
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Posted: 26 March 2011 at 05:56 |
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certainly a humble guy "The Fastest Gun Who Ever Lived" . Wonder how he knows he is faster than all those Western guys in the 1870-1920? But it is a good shot. We shoot our 38 snubbies into the river when the ice has broken up. Lots of small chunks floating down. Seems my brother's Colt Cobra is always the most accurate at 200-300 yards no matter who shoots it. Might be the long handle/grips? |
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Posted: 26 March 2011 at 09:20 |
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Fella's; I'm extremely suspicious of this gun. Here's the blurb from a for sale site: Type : Revolver Action : Single / Double Caliber : 22 Magnum Barrel Length : 1 7/8 Capacity : 7 rd Safety : No Manual Grips : Wood Sights : Fixed Weight : 10.8 oz Finish : Matte Black. Smith & Wessons line of rimfire revolvers is the perfect choice for competition, plinking and small game hunting. The small J-frame 351 Airlite is built on an aluminum alloy frame and includes a low profile non reflective black matte finish for excellent concealed carry and light gathering HiViz sights for maximum effectiveness in difficult lighting situations.
No manual grips! Does that mean you can't put your hand on the gun!! And the wood sights. I mean, we're talking seriously fragile here I think. What happened to the Hi-Vis? Or are we talking wooden Hi-Vis?? Will it shoot seven times before the safety engages? Or do you pull the trigger eight times before it shoots! This is a question I want answered before even considering this weird thing!!
As I said, I don't think this is the gun for me. And that's a big FO-SURE!
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Birth certificate!? He don't need no steenkink birth certificate!!
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Posted: 26 March 2011 at 14:01 |
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CB, Obviously, commas are important in the written language.
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Posted: 26 March 2011 at 14:44 |
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foo if you read it that way...then it has wood sights!!!!!!
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Posted: 26 March 2011 at 15:01 |
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I kinda like it. Course I have a new found love for Smith & Wesson. A .22 mag might not be the most powerful round, but I wouldn't want to be on the business end of one. I wonder if it is one that can be had without the internal lock? Wing master |
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I have always considered myself to be quite the bullshitter, But ocasionally it is nice to sit back and listen to a true professional......So, Carry on.
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Posted: 27 March 2011 at 05:48 |
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Nobody is looking (yet) so why would anybody want to be using one of those internal locks on a self defense pistol to begin with?
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Posted: 27 March 2011 at 06:54 |
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They seem to want to put locks on everything. Unless you take your own gun lock, most stores will NOT sell you a gun. So now most rifles/handguns are shipped with a free gun lock. |
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Posted: 27 March 2011 at 10:47 |
that must a PA thing....maybe just anti-gun Pittsburgh ...never heard of it here in the midwest....about stores not selling you a gun without you having your own gun lock....but , yes, it seems as if new guns either have a built in gun lock/hammer or firing pin block (referred to as a safety device by the lawyers) or come with a padlock/cable type from factory......oh, BTW, I bet that free gun lock ain't really FREE..... Edited by Irish Bird Dog |
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Posted: 27 March 2011 at 11:32 |
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KImber gives you one free. I see it in NY and in Florida also. I'm sure once Wi gets into the 21 century they will see it also.
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Posted: 27 March 2011 at 11:38 |
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FYI Child Safety Lock Act (passed in 2005) went into effective on April 24, 2006. http://www.atf.gov/press/releases/2006/04/042106-openletter- ffl-child-safety-locks.html Edited by BEAR |
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Posted: 27 March 2011 at 13:15 |
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I guess I'll have to stick to "antiques" because I sure don't like all this business about locks on firearms.
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Posted: 27 March 2011 at 14:11 |
yah, Dennis but you can't escape the locks on guns.....antiques and clones/replicas have not escaped the "locks" either....for example I a few long guns with locks that are replicas of older firearms...and they came with factory locks on them.... ... a flintLOCK and a capLOCK, ....... and Bear I bet Kimber figured the cost of that safety lock into the price someplace..... Edited by Irish Bird Dog |
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Posted: 27 March 2011 at 14:49 |
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I was refering to the lock built into most new Smith &Wesson revolvers. It requires a "key" to lock and unlock. Kinda like the Remington "J" lock. My carry gun, a model 60 S&W HAD an internal lock, but being the kind of guy I am I removed it and found a machinest that makes a plug to fill the hole left when the lock has been removed. Looks almost like a gun without a lock, and I don't have to worry about the gun being locked at a time when I might need it for self defence. I would post a picture of a gun with the lock, but whenever anyone takes a picture of a S&W with one they put that side down so they don't have to look at the ugly thing. Wing master |
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I have always considered myself to be quite the bullshitter, But ocasionally it is nice to sit back and listen to a true professional......So, Carry on.
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Posted: 29 March 2011 at 10:20 |
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I've not seen wooden sights on a revolver. I wonder why they did that?...................................Kingpin
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