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TasunkaWitko
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aka The Gipper Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: Chinook Montana Status: Offline Points: 14753 |
Topic: id like to see (blank) legitimized!Posted: 21 January 2004 at 08:18 |
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what wildcat or non-commercial cartridge would you like to see legitimized? for me, it would be a 6.5 pill on a .30/06 case. i would buy that TOMORROW! |
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TasunkaWitko - Chinook, Montana
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Orion
.375 Holland & Holland Magnum
Joined: 10 August 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 555 |
Posted: 21 January 2004 at 08:24 |
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Ok, proprietary, Lazzeroni - 6.71 Blackbird. OR go ahead and chamber a .264 barrel to 6.5mm x'06. I was just looking and Ackley had better velocities than with his own "improved" version. Do you have Cartidges of the World on hand? Great reference and can really get you wallet in trouble with all the what-if's.
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Orion
.375 Holland & Holland Magnum
Joined: 10 August 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 555 |
Posted: 21 January 2004 at 08:25 |
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.257 WSSM, dang it!! I have a .300 & .270. What gives?? Sheesh!!
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NH_Hunter
.416 Rigby
aka The Kid Joined: 13 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3508 |
Posted: 21 January 2004 at 09:05 |
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How about a 9.3x63 Ruger NH_Hunter |
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Leverguns make me smile
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klallen
.416 Rigby
** The RockChucker ** Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2331 |
Posted: 21 January 2004 at 09:18 |
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.358 STA would be nice.
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A Big Mouth Don't Make A Big Man !!!
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dakotasin
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a TRUE brother-in-arms! Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4099 |
Posted: 21 January 2004 at 13:38 |
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i think that every cartridge i'd ever have cause to buy is available to me now... would be nice to see a 25 whizzum... (that would be wsm, w/ one s, not its baby brother still in diapers, the wussem, aka wssm, w/ 2 s's).
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Hunting is not a matter of life or death; it is much more important than that.
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Tikkabuck
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**Robert E. Lee IV ** Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8740 |
Posted: 21 January 2004 at 14:39 |
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Gotta go with the .257 wsm,I want one.
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God,Mother,Country,and Hot Rods. Done with political crap.LOL
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Ranch Dog
.243 Winchester
Joined: 16 September 2003 Location: Inez, TX Status: Offline Points: 181 |
Posted: 21 January 2004 at 15:32 |
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Mine is very simple. Just the 30-30 AI so I could get it chambered in a brand new Marlin right off the shelf.
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macca
.416 Rigby
AKA The Thunder From DownUnder Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 1149 |
Posted: 21 January 2004 at 19:00 |
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An annual open day for the hunting and culling of any politicans who have lied the previous year.Maybe we can through in lawyers, bleeding hearts etc. Whoops tash was talking wildcats,hmmm,338/50 Talbot sending a 250 grainer at 3700fps with 7625ftlbs could be useful in the above applications. macca |
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don't let the bastards grind you down.
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Dave Skinner
.416 Rigby
AKA "Fast Eddie" Joined: 13 June 2003 Location: Albania Status: Offline Points: 1693 |
Posted: 21 January 2004 at 19:11 |
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Who needs legit, anyway? Go to the pawn shop, buy a rust bomb with the right action, stab the barrel of your dreams on it and go! |
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Up hills slow, down hills fast, tonnage first and safety last
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The_Mountaineer
.416 Rigby
** West BY-GOD Virginian! ** Joined: 02 July 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2653 |
Posted: 22 January 2004 at 03:53 |
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Hey klallen, That 358 TA is a favorite of my hunting buddy's. He's taken a lot of African stuff. The rifle was builty by the Winchester Custom Shop and his pictures are posted on their site: http://www.winchester-guns.com/services/trophycase/results.asp?search=Imundo&Submit=Search+Trophies His name is Imundo so if the link doesn't work you can look it up. |
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Paritur pax bello - Peace is obtained by war.
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Guests
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Posted: 22 January 2004 at 04:46 |
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Mountaineer, Well, the 358 sta is a lot of shell for most plains game, like the zebra and the wildebeast. Both zebra and wildebeast are actually large animals way above deer, and in my experience are tough to kill for their size. But The 338 winchester and the 340 Weatherby are perfect for them. It kicks like the 375 H&H but can't be used on public lands for dangerous game. Mountaineer I don't see who who buy enough to make it even close to commerically viable. The 358 Norma went down the tubes and it was more versatile than the STA. Actually had a Husquvarna 358 Norma mag in my hands one time and didn't buy it. Kick my as% when I think of it. BEAR |
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klallen
.416 Rigby
** The RockChucker ** Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2331 |
Posted: 22 January 2004 at 04:59 |
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Hi MOUNTAINEER >> Checked out the pics. Nice. I've talked to a couple folks shooting the .358 STA. Not an unsatisfied word to be had. "Powerhouse" seems to be the most popular term used to describe this cartridge. There's no way I'm gonna wait for it to become a standardized round. I'll have to get something put together much sooner then that !!! "The 358 Norma went down the tubes and it was more versatile than the STA." Huh??? BEAR, that must be a comment along the same lines as when I hear folks admonishing the .30-06 being a more versatile cartridge then the .300 WinMag. I have a similar reaction when I hear that one, too ... huh??? Later guys. >> klallen |
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A Big Mouth Don't Make A Big Man !!!
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The_Mountaineer
.416 Rigby
** West BY-GOD Virginian! ** Joined: 02 July 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2653 |
Posted: 22 January 2004 at 09:07 |
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Well both Klallen and Bear know more about this plains game stuff than I do. Hell, I can't even get around to hunting all our critters much less African game! From what I've read and see though, the 358 STA is a heck of a caliber though better and worser (is that a word???) calibers exist. One caliber that I think has fallen from the spotlight that I really like AND USE is my little 257 Roberts. I wish more people would pick up on it. I really like it for most all my deer hunting. Plenty of power for most of my deer hunting and an accurate little bugger to boot. Heck, when I was testing handloads, I found that it would group about 1 inch 5 shot groups with just about anything. Could've been the exception of a gun but that little Ruger 77 of mine shoots dang fine. I'm sure NH is smiling at this comment! |
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Paritur pax bello - Peace is obtained by war.
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Posted: 22 January 2004 at 09:12 |
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Mountaineer, I bought one of the first batch of Ruger 77 in 257 roberts "200th yer of americna freedom". the Roberst was really bet up by the 1960s gun writers in their rush to promote the new 243 and 244. The Roberts is really a true varmit and deer rifle. I've dumped lots of whitetails with the 117gr Hornady. I even like the thumb safety on my olde 77. BEAR |
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Eagleye
.30/06 SpringField
Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 293 |
Posted: 22 January 2004 at 11:01 |
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I'd like to se the 6.5-06 get a legitimate place in the market. I've owned one for a number of years and I really like it for anything up to and including Caribou. Will readily dump bigger game too, but there are chamberings that are probably more suitable when the live weight exceeds 600 lbs. I wouldn't mind seeing a commercial offering of the 358 Norma Mag, but I'll not hold my breath. Regards, EE
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Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level & then beat you with experience!
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tj3006
.416 Rigby
AKA King Leui VX-III Joined: 16 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2373 |
Posted: 22 January 2004 at 15:19 |
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I think Ill vote for the 257 By 284. ... tj3006 |
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Freedom 1st tj3006
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CB900F
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Honor, Integrity Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: Eritrea Status: Offline Points: 8857 |
Posted: 22 January 2004 at 17:12 |
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Fella's; I'm gonna have to vote for the real thing, the .257 SuperRoberts, otherwise not known as the .257WSM. Since it's not produced ya know. Taz; Look no further than the 6.5 Schuler. The case is, as is the .30-06, a derivative of the 8X68S 8mm Mauser. In this instance, it's not been cut to 63mm, but left at 68mm. It's ballistically the .264 Winmag without a belt. Or there's the 6.5X61 Mauser. Showing a factory load of 2906 fps with a 139 gr bullet. 900F |
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Birth certificate!? He don't need no steenkink birth certificate!!
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TasunkaWitko
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aka The Gipper Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: Chinook Montana Status: Offline Points: 14753 |
Posted: 23 January 2004 at 01:39 |
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sounds good, 900f. only problem is that i haven't seen rifles or ammunition in those configurations down at scheels, or even wally-world! |
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TasunkaWitko - Chinook, Montana
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Posted: 23 January 2004 at 02:10 |
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Ranchdog, I thought they kind of did that, called it the 307. BEAR |
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