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JUSTN A. MURKAN
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Topic: 1st dogPosted: 13 October 2010 at 17:13 |
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for huntin' that is,,,thinkin' on a German wirehair as a do everything huntin' dog,,,as that is what they're famous for,,,any you guys use one?
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Posted: 14 October 2010 at 00:42 |
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There's other do everything hunting dogs besides Labrador Retrievers? My avatar says it all. RD
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Posted: 14 October 2010 at 02:51 |
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GWs are great dogs. But I'd pick the breed that best works for your specific type of hunting. My hunting dogs have been beagles, vizsla, Brittany, labs all specific breeds; except the vizsla which was promoted as a versatility breed, he only hunted birds. The Brit was also a good bird dog but not a great retriever. I did hunt pheasants over a GW. he hunted good but was a very strong willed male, and would snap. |
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Posted: 14 October 2010 at 11:09 |
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I have German Shorthairs. I agree with Bear. I use dogs to hunt upland birds so I have upland bird dogs. I would snap a picture of heidi and post it, but she is laying on the couch licking her butt right now. I will wait for a better photo opportunity. Wing master |
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I have always considered myself to be quite the bullshitter, But ocasionally it is nice to sit back and listen to a true professional......So, Carry on.
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Posted: 14 October 2010 at 11:13 |
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Just read that this is the FIRST dog. Just my 2 cents.....they take a lot of work to train. MORE than you think. Get some training books and read NOW. So you can start right in. That thing about old dogs, new tricks is TRUE. Lots of work to train as a good hunter, easy to love the critter.
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Wing master
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Posted: 14 October 2010 at 14:59 |
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Also don't feel bad if you give up and send them to a trainer. Both of mine were trained by someone other than me. Wing master |
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I have always considered myself to be quite the bullshitter, But ocasionally it is nice to sit back and listen to a true professional......So, Carry on.
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Posted: 14 October 2010 at 15:32 |
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I was probably spoiled because Rocky was a natural pointing lab. First thing in the morning he had a little tendancy to work too far ahead but always settled down and kept a steady pace back and forth between two of us when pheasant hunting. Never duck hunted him but he'd wear out my buddies brittanies, water spanials and springers in the fields of Iowa. Still raren to go at mid afternoon while they were looking for the shade of the truck. I'm sure that a GSH or other big running pointer or setter would have given him a run for his money. He wasn't exactly svelte at about 120# +. RD
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Posted: 15 October 2010 at 06:08 |
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Sounds like Rocky was one heck of a dog. It would have been interesting to see him on ducks and geese. A pointing lab would be the best of both worlds. Wing master |
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Posted: 16 October 2010 at 10:12 |
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I've been blessed with several fantastic dogs.....
For upland birds the best was a GWP.....awesome hound.....it was stolen from me..... I've owned two great chocolate pointing labs.....and they easily do double duty as a waterfowl dog!!!! I had a buddy with a fantastic Golden retriever..... Here's my advice.....for waterfowl it's Labrador all the way!!!! For double duty is still Labrador..... But for pure upland hunting it's Draathar.....This is a German registry GWP.....because not all GWPs are created equal!!!! Edited by vapodog |
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JUSTN A. MURKAN
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Posted: 18 October 2010 at 09:48 |
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The wire hair has long been known in it's homeland as a very versatile huntin' dog in all fields,,,but as they seem to be vogue here in the U.S.,they are pricey |
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Posted: 18 October 2010 at 10:07 |
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As breeds get pricey or popular, lots of inbreeding occurs, and the quality goes own fast. Try to buy from a reliable source. Papers don't always truely represent the actual bloodline!!
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Posted: 23 October 2010 at 14:42 |
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I've spent over 37yrs with Irish Setters and Golden Retrievers and never looked back...great dogs......usually one of each all the times.....GR I have now is 10+ & the IS now is 3. She will be my last dog I believe If I outlive her and for sure if I don't.
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Posted: 12 November 2010 at 17:41 |
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Although I don't own one, german short hairs have ALWAYS got my attention. I have two basenjis that live with me and though they are supposed to be sight hunters, they don't impress me for anything but their over activeness. I walk them both, at the same time, and it's a real physical thing. I even have the chain knuckle head collars that are suppoesd to make them stop pulling, and they really enjoy having their necks jagged, well I suppose they do, they never stopped dragging me............Kingpin
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JUSTN A. MURKAN
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Posted: 20 November 2010 at 04:35 |
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been thinkin' on a Britany,,,don't want a big dog,,,but I want a good all around dog,,,ain't a water fowler on purpose,,,have jumped a few while after other stuff,,,but livin' in Louiusiana kinda means waterfowlin',,,though I will do it from boats,so I need a dog that wont flip a small duck-boat,size-wise.
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Posted: 20 November 2010 at 13:51 |
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All hunting dogs have a special place with me,sometimes I'd rather be around them than people.
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God,Mother,Country,and Hot Rods. Done with political crap.LOL
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Wing master
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Posted: 20 November 2010 at 15:52 |
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Hey Tikkabuck, Is that Tikkadoe? I never have had a lab, but I have been around a few and cant argue with Tikka. Wing master |
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Posted: 20 November 2010 at 16:17 |
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Fella's; Yeah, for what it's worth, I'm votin' Lab all the way. 900F |
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Birth certificate!? He don't need no steenkink birth certificate!!
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Posted: 21 November 2010 at 01:35 |
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Hey Wingman ,you got it,thats the lady who puts up with all my crazyness. Don't tell her I posted her picture she'll hunt me down.
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Posted: 21 November 2010 at 14:00 |
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I won't be saying anything. I know nothing. Wing master |
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I have always considered myself to be quite the bullshitter, But ocasionally it is nice to sit back and listen to a true professional......So, Carry on.
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Posted: 22 November 2010 at 11:41 |
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Lets see I raise labs for years and hunted with them for grouse/pheasants and ducks. I was lucky enough to own a Field champ Brit. Brits shed, if a house dog. Labs are better with kids. Neither is a negative, both are just great. Brit nos is 5 times better than a lab. Labs are 5x more disciplined than a Brit. My lab was , "Spookie" my Brit was , would you believe "Brit'. Loved them both, miss them both.
PS I'm back from 3 days hunting deer in NY.
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