You Get What You Pay For........Sometimes

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   Me and a hunting partner molied up some bullets last weekend.  In a cleaned bowl, we threw in :
1 new (still sealed) box of Nosler 130 gr. .277 BT's.
100 Calhoon .224 bullets.
4 boxes of Hornady 750 gr. A-Max's.
Afterward, while splitting up the bullets, I came up with 51 Nosler bullets.  Didn't think much of it.  Nosler must have slipped me an extra BT.  Started loading for my .270.  As I got ready to seat one of the bullets I'd randomly pulled, things felt real strange; a lot harder to seat then it should be.  I pulled the case back out.  The neck had been noticeably belled and the bullet got stuck up inside the seating die.  Once it was out, a closer look showed that it was certainly NOT a Ballistic Tip.  Rather a Nosler Partition.  Weighed the thing and it was a 140 gr. Partition.  Measured it, and found it to be a 140 gr. .284 Partition.
I've no idea how, but one of these little jewels must have slipped by at the factory and gotten into my box of 130 gr. .277 BT.  Strange.  I suppose ya load long enough, you'll see this many times in the coarse of a lifetime, but it's the first for me.  >>  klallen 

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klallen Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby The RockChucker Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2331	Topic: You Get What You Pay For........Sometimes Posted: 04 September 2003 at 01:53
	Me and a hunting partner molied up some bullets last weekend. In a cleaned bowl, we threw in : 1 new (still sealed) box of Nosler 130 gr. .277 BT's. 100 Calhoon .224 bullets. 4 boxes of Hornady 750 gr. A-Max's. Afterward, while splitting up the bullets, I came up with 51 Nosler bullets. Didn't think much of it. Nosler must have slipped me an extra BT. Started loading for my .270. As I got ready to seat one of the bullets I'd randomly pulled, things felt real strange; a lot harder to seat then it should be. I pulled the case back out. The neck had been noticeably belled and the bullet got stuck up inside the seating die. Once it was out, a closer look showed that it was certainly NOT a Ballistic Tip. Rather a Nosler Partition. Weighed the thing and it was a 140 gr. Partition. Measured it, and found it to be a 140 gr. .284 Partition. I've no idea how, but one of these little jewels must have slipped by at the factory and gotten into my box of 130 gr. .277 BT. Strange. I suppose ya load long enough, you'll see this many times in the coarse of a lifetime, but it's the first for me. >> klallen
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dakotasin Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Administrator a TRUE brother-in-arms! Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4099	Posted: 04 September 2003 at 11:10
	wow... potentially a very bad situation. luckily you could feel the difference because my guess is that once they were coated, it was fairly difficult to tell the difference w/ a mere glance... if partitions were boat tailed, it could easily have been worse because the bullet would've probably seated... funny you bring this up... was thinking about gun safety today during a long drive... a very good friend of mine had a hunting accident 4 years ago, and it cost him his right leg; he was very lucky that's all it cost him. (he drew a buck tag for the hills, and i didn't - the one time i haven't drawn, so i was not there... but, what happened: the party got out of the truck. for some reason, he chambered his rifle at that moment - a 270. he stepped up to close the door and slipped on the snow/ice. when he landed, the gun was pointed at his leg, just above the knee... the gun discharged, and the bullet went on to destroy his leg and most of the electronics in the truck, but by some miracle, the truck could still drive. a cell phone call, 65 minutes out of the hills, a transfer to the ambulance on i-90, airlifted to another hospital... he nearly bled to death, and wound up in various hospitals for 2 months before they finally released him of his leg... bad deal...)
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huntin1 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .30/06 SpringField Joined: 16 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 256	Posted: 04 September 2003 at 12:11
	klallen, what are you going to do with that moly coated sealed nosler box. Seriously, what are you using to moly coat, I use a vibrating polisher and have added steel shot to the bowl along with the moly powder. huntin1
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Spot shooter Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Left BSB in Disgrace Banned Joined: 19 June 2003 Location: Bahrain Status: Offline Points: 0	Posted: 04 September 2003 at 12:40
	KL, Sure that bullet wasn't in there from the last batch? Simplist answers usually right. Spot

klallen Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby The RockChucker Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2331	Posted: 04 September 2003 at 12:46
	"what are you going to do with that moly coated sealed nosler box." Clever, HUNT1 >> Went back and reread what I posted and I'll be darned if it don't sound like I threw the boX in the tumbler. LOL We have the vibrating tumbler / case cleaner. We do have steel shot that we add to the mix when needed, but with 80 of those 750 gr. BMG A-Max's jumping around in there, we didn't use the shot this time. You probably already know this (anyone who messes with moly a lot does) but those cheapo thin rubber surgical gloves make a world of difference, as far as the seperation and wipe down, after the process is done. The clean-up is much easier. When we first got them, I thought it was the greatest thing since sliced bread. Now I'm just wondering why we didn't think of it sooner. Crazy kids. Nope, SS. I considered that as well (for about a second). It's a reasonable assumption, but neither my partner nor I have ever used Partitions in anything that we've hunted with. It's a certainty that Partition didn't come from our stock of bullets. Chat with ya both later. >> klallen Edited by klallen
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Rockydog Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Administrator Joined: 13 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3191	Posted: 04 September 2003 at 14:09
	I've told this story on here before but this reminded me of it again. Down at the local club there is a custom Mauser in a glass display box in twenty or so pieces. The result of slamming the bolt home on a hard chambering round. Turned out after the trigger was pulled and pieces were collected that the hard chambering was due to stuffing a 280 into a 270. Good thing you're a careful reloader. RD

Eagleye Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .30/06 SpringField Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 293	Posted: 04 September 2003 at 14:32
	Rockydog; How in H*** would a guy get a 280 to chamber in a 270? The case length to the datum line is longer on a 280, so unless the action on that 270 was already so sloppy that a normal round would flop around like a saddle on a sow in there, it would seem to be impossible. However, maybe.....? Regards, Eagleye.
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Rockydog Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Administrator Joined: 13 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3191	Posted: 04 September 2003 at 14:47
	Eagleye, I don't know either. But that's the claim backed up by witnesses. They even have both cases in the shadow box to show the difference. He had some injuries from the explosion. He stated afterward that he had to force the bolt closed. I heard he was a reloader and owned and reloaded for both calibers. The guy just passed away this summer from a boating accident. RD

macca Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby AKA The Thunder From DownUnder Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 1149	Posted: 04 September 2003 at 18:59
	I bought a box of 6mm 80 grain spitzers which contained a 55 grain BT once so this does happen.I saw a new box of factory 243 ammo with a 22-250 round in it as well.So maybe someone likes to play jokes or you have a anti hunter working in the ammo line.Macca
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