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    Posted: 17 January 2009 at 11:03
Fella's;

I'm going to upgrade the glass on an older gun of mine & thought I'd put the question out here at BSB. The gun is a bolt action .30-06, and is a reasonably accurate firearm at this time. However, the glass that's currently on it is not the best & could stand to be improved. I'm not looking so much as to improve the accuracy of the gun, but to help my aging eyes.

And, the canidates are:
1. The Leupold Mark II tactical 3-9X mil-dot.
2. The Zeiss Conquest 3-9X mil-dot.

There is a slight price difference between the two, with the advantage to Leupold. However, it's only a slight advantage. The mil-dot reticle is a given regardless of what I get. I now have several scopes with it, use it frequently, & love it. One of those scopes is a Zeiss Conquest 3.5-10X, a piece of glass I'm very happy with. I do have other Leupold scopes, but none with their mil-dot reticle.

So what's the pick of the board and why?

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I've noticed, that as my scopes get older (can't be my eyes), some scopes work better than other, often different scopes in same line. 

I would say try them both and see which one works better.  I've assumed all mildots in a line, were the same, I've found they're not.  Some are just clearer/sharper,  I've tried two different scopes, same model ect and have one sharper.  Last scope I bought, I took rifle to shop with rings on, no scope-no bolt in gun.  Put scopes on finger tight, to try them out.  Shops may be way to busy now, to let you do this though.

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Tikka;

I see the recession has caught up with you.  It's obvious you've stopped drinking Knob Creek & taken up the moonshine again.  It's sad to see a once fine mind slide into the haze of cheap pseudo-whiskey.

Alas poor Tikka, I thunked I knowed him well.

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Well, I never recommend mil-dots; as I've gone to the 21 century and have a laser range finder.

I've shot both of the scope you have in the final round.  Both are good.  I give a big Steeler push to the Leupold.  Reasons; slightly sharper for my eyes,  known rugged construction, Leupold best in business warranty, and it is American made (help the economy).

I hate to start addressing your expressed question in an otherwise perfect thread!!LOL

You are the only one that must be satisfied with the choice, so if you like the Conquest, go for it.

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I'd have to go with the Leupold.  I've not owned better scopes.

That being said, I'd like to get a Zeiss to try out too, but I have to find the rifle to put it with.  Thinking a CZ 527 in 223 with a Zeiss would be a fine sporter weight varminter!

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote OK hunter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 January 2009 at 10:36

Tough decision with no losers regardless which one you go with.  Although I'm a huge Zeiss fan, I would say the Leupold would get my nod at  this time.  If I am in the market for a product and this purchase might keep an American worker employed, I would have to do it.

I realize one scope will not keep anyone employed but how many decisions like this will be made around the US in the next 6 months?

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Originally posted by CB900F CB900F wrote:

Fella's;

I'm going to upgrade the glass on an older gun of mine & thought I'd put the question out here at BSB. The gun is a bolt action .30-06, and is a reasonably accurate firearm at this time. However, the glass that's currently on it is not the best & could stand to be improved. I'm not looking so much as to improve the accuracy of the gun, but to help my aging eyes.

And, the canidates are:
1. The Leupold Mark II tactical 3-9X mil-dot.
2. The Zeiss Conquest 3-9X mil-dot.

There is a slight price difference between the two, with the advantage to Leupold. However, it's only a slight advantage. The mil-dot reticle is a given regardless of what I get. I now have several scopes with it, use it frequently, & love it. One of those scopes is a Zeiss Conquest 3.5-10X, a piece of glass I'm very happy with. I do have other Leupold scopes, but none with their mil-dot reticle.

So what's the pick of the board and why?

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Originally posted by CB900F CB900F wrote:

Fella's;

I'm going to upgrade the glass on an older gun of mine & thought I'd put the question out here at BSB. The gun is a bolt action .30-06, and is a reasonably accurate firearm at this time. However, the glass that's currently on it is not the best & could stand to be improved. I'm not looking so much as to improve the accuracy of the gun, but to help my aging eyes.

And, the canidates are:
1. The Leupold Mark II tactical 3-9X mil-dot.
2. The Zeiss Conquest 3-9X mil-dot.

There is a slight price difference between the two, with the advantage to Leupold. However, it's only a slight advantage. The mil-dot reticle is a given regardless of what I get. I now have several scopes with it, use it frequently, & love it. One of those scopes is a Zeiss Conquest 3.5-10X, a piece of glass I'm very happy with. I do have other Leupold scopes, but none with their mil-dot reticle.

So what's the pick of the board and why?

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Fella's;

Well we (might) have a winner! 

It shook out like this;  a friend showed me his several Leupold VXIII 2.5-8X scopes, and he's an FFL.  AND, one of his wholesale suppliers was having a sale on just that scope.  AND, I can send it back to Loopy's custom shop & have a mil-dot reticle put in it for less, (mor'n a case a good beer less) than the Tacticool MKII would-a cost me.  So the scope is on order.

Now I'm not sure just what gun I wanna put it on.  After all, the Lahti 20mm anti-tank gun does deserve new glass.

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CB900F......I'll give another Vote for the LEUPOLD scope!

Bear hit the nail smack dab on the head, when he stated leupold has the best warranty on the market. I can attest to that, when the sent me a rifle scope (VX-3) free of charge after my hunt on the Dark Continent. The scope on the rifle was ruined and no fault of leupold. It was crashed into the side of the truck rails, after hitting a warthog hole. Yes, I got a brand new rifle scope "FREE".......now how do you like those apples?

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Fella's'

No need to tell me of the quality of Leupold's warranty.  I've put it to the test & been thoroughly satisfied with the way I was treated.  Probably none better in the industry, although I've been told Zeiss is as good.  I haven't personally tested Zeiss's warranty though.

In any case, the Leupold Vari-X 3 is here.  I'll just have to arrange to send it into Leupold's custom shop one of these days to get the mil-dot reticle installed.

Thanks to all of you who replied.

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I was at several gun stores this week checking out various rifle scopes. I found that Leupold was top of the list after examining those scopes and turning them up and down through the power scale.

Leupold was crisp and clear from 6 to 16 power, where as the Nikon Monarch, Bushnell 3200 & 4200, Burris were not as clear on the higher power settings. This particular Leupold scope was a VX-2 rifle scope.

I ended up purchasing that particular scope and an 8 X 20 Leupold as well. They will earn their keep on top of a pair of varmint rifles in calibers called the .204 Ruger and 25-06.

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Jayando....I is just a might bit hard to get on game with a 16 or 20 power fixed rifle scope. It might be Jimmeny Cricket at the bench for target work but I seldom worry about needing to have that kind of rifle scope to shoot little tiny groups with our varmint/predator rifles.

A good variable gives a hunter/shooter the very best of both worlds and the quality of todays middle of the road rifle scopes is top notch in my book and that's a fact. The only fixed scope I have in the house downstairs over the bench, is an old Weaver 6 Power made in the 1950's.

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jay;

I'm an old photographer, from back when zoom lens's first came out.  I can tell you that competition has vastly improved not only the camera zooms, but the riflescope variables also.  And it's not just the competition, the tech improvements are a quantum leap up the ladder.

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CB900F.....You hit a bullseye with that statement in your last post!

Yes, technology has jumped to the moon as to what the standards were back in the days of Bill Weaver and company. Now almost every scope I pick up is as clear as a bell and bright also. It makes no difference if it is a $150 dollar scope of a $1,500 dollar rifle scope.

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