water bug

No guard...instant Dale-burger!

I got the gas tank in

Remember: Four boxes keep us free ,the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, AND the cartridge box

Yes and some kind of pop up blind And winter camo of some kind

Remember: Four boxes keep us free ,the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, AND the cartridge box

Headers on the bug.

With the new little welder I'm plugging along.

I made some headers for the bug motor.

The easiest way was to use the existing pipes and ad

crisscross Pipes. They point out to the side right now but will

point to the back, I have the mufflers from the "Johnson" jammed on now and they make the bug quite quiet. I'll work with them .

I did some digging and found out I have my distributor "Plumed" wrong.

When I got the carb I used the vacuum lines that where on the old one, used them by size and they seamed to work.

But on a VW they put vacuum on both sides of the advance diagram

and I had them backwards. AND come to find out In my application , I need to uncap one and leave it to atmosphere and plug it at the carb. Then , this is odd, I have to find TDC of #1 mark the pulley where you time it from mark the Degrees to 28*.

Run the motor up to 3500 rpm and set the mark to 28* Above TDC. I also found out an old fashioned distributor with mechanical weights would be the best in my application.

I'll have to look in to that if I cant get it to 28*.

Edited by d4570 - 16 February 2018 at 13:17

Remember: Four boxes keep us free ,the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, AND the cartridge box

Ok !
I re plumbed the distributor as directed, and left off and plugged the second Vacuum line.
I used a * print out , worked great.
I found TDS on #1 marked it and took off the prop.
I fired it up with the timing light on it.
Ran it up to 3500 rpm and twisted the distributor till I hit
the stud that was used to hold the old manual fuel pump( I have it capped off ) and use an electric fuel pump.Not quite to the 28* mark with the vacuum line off as needed .
I was able to cut the stub off some to let the distb. turn farther.
I set it to 28* clamped it down, and put the vac line back on.
Put the prop back on and...
PERFICT!!! I now have enough HP to turn the prop up to the required 3100rpm.
That's all ,but it is right on 3900 rpm on the motor and holds . Nice.
I have a very short Video of the boat moving , on the snow.
Still lots of work to do like some way to steer , cage ext...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiE5J6tZvvI

http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiE5J6tZvvI

Remember: Four boxes keep us free ,the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, AND the cartridge box

YouAre making great progress. Can't wait to see the BUG in end of April.

Irish Bird Dog

NRA Life/Endowment

2nd Amendment Supporter

seems like I could see a little 'help' on the front end??

Still looking good.

snow brakes???

some type of waterproof canvas over the motor moght be good. that prop in a rain storm will really be soaking your bug engine.

I would add brace here to cage, to keep it from wobbling into prop.

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BEAR Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Administrator Joined: 07 September 2013 Location: Appalachian Mtn Status: Offline Points: 14390	Post Options Post Reply Quote BEAR Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 February 2018 at 14:32
	No guard...instant Dale-burger!

d4570 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby Joined: 27 January 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 9961	Post Options Post Reply Quote d4570 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 February 2018 at 18:16
	Yup me again . You know the drill VW 1600c and Snowmobile clutch drive. I have 64 X32 wooden two blade prop and a composite three blade 59" with 10* pitch blocks. Both spinning at 3100 rpm at the prop and 3200 rpm at the motor. Which one should give me the Most "Push" Don't care about " Hole shot". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okmCg_1_1D0&feature=youtu.be Edited by d4570 - 04 February 2018 at 09:53
	Remember: Four boxes keep us free ,the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, AND the cartridge box

d4570 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby Joined: 27 January 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 9961	Post Options Post Reply Quote d4570 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 February 2018 at 21:27
	I got the gas tank in
	Remember: Four boxes keep us free ,the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, AND the cartridge box

BEAR Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Administrator Joined: 07 September 2013 Location: Appalachian Mtn Status: Offline Points: 14390	Post Options Post Reply Quote BEAR Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 February 2018 at 08:25
	Looks good. Since duck hunting is part of this ships mission...is it going to be painted camo?

d4570 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby Joined: 27 January 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 9961	Post Options Post Reply Quote d4570 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 February 2018 at 11:01
	Yes and some kind of pop up blind And winter camo of some kind
	Remember: Four boxes keep us free ,the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, AND the cartridge box

Wing master Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Administrator AKA StraightShooter Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8029	Post Options Post Reply Quote Wing master Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 February 2018 at 21:54
	Looking good D. I can't wait to see it on the water. Wing master
	I have always considered myself to be quite the bullshitter, But ocasionally it is nice to sit back and listen to a true professional......So, Carry on.

d4570 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby Joined: 27 January 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 9961	Post Options Post Reply Quote d4570 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 February 2018 at 13:16
	Headers on the bug. With the new little welder I'm plugging along. I made some headers for the bug motor. The easiest way was to use the existing pipes and ad crisscross Pipes. They point out to the side right now but will point to the back, I have the mufflers from the "Johnson" jammed on now and they make the bug quite quiet. I'll work with them . I did some digging and found out I have my distributor "Plumed" wrong. When I got the carb I used the vacuum lines that where on the old one, used them by size and they seamed to work. But on a VW they put vacuum on both sides of the advance diagram and I had them backwards. AND come to find out In my application , I need to uncap one and leave it to atmosphere and plug it at the carb. Then , this is odd, I have to find TDC of #1 mark the pulley where you time it from mark the Degrees to 28. Run the motor up to 3500 rpm and set the mark to 28 Above TDC. I also found out an old fashioned distributor with mechanical weights would be the best in my application. I'll have to look in to that if I cant get it to 28*. Edited by d4570 - 16 February 2018 at 13:17
	Remember: Four boxes keep us free ,the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, AND the cartridge box

RobertMT Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby Joined: 12 March 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4413	Post Options Post Reply Quote RobertMT Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 February 2018 at 21:12
	What you need is dual point distributor, you leave it retarded enough to start easier, then as you come up in rpm, you hit switch for second set of points and it advances your 28 degrees, to get the high rpm and pump some fuel on through. That used to be the hot set up, before computer tunes and even before going to twin magnetos. That along with the heavy weights and light springs, controlled how much power, you put to the ground or prop.
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d4570 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby Joined: 27 January 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 9961	Post Options Post Reply Quote d4570 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 February 2018 at 17:17
	Ok ! I re plumbed the distributor as directed, and left off and plugged the second Vacuum line. I used a * print out , worked great. I found TDS on #1 marked it and took off the prop. I fired it up with the timing light on it. Ran it up to 3500 rpm and twisted the distributor till I hit the stud that was used to hold the old manual fuel pump( I have it capped off ) and use an electric fuel pump.Not quite to the 28* mark with the vacuum line off as needed . I was able to cut the stub off some to let the distb. turn farther. I set it to 28* clamped it down, and put the vac line back on. Put the prop back on and... PERFICT!!! I now have enough HP to turn the prop up to the required 3100rpm. That's all ,but it is right on 3900 rpm on the motor and holds . Nice. I have a very short Video of the boat moving , on the snow. Still lots of work to do like some way to steer , cage ext... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiE5J6tZvvI http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiE5J6tZvvI
	Remember: Four boxes keep us free ,the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, AND the cartridge box

Irish Bird Dog Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby Too many Joined: 01 March 2009 Location: Midwest Status: Offline Points: 5574	Post Options Post Reply Quote Irish Bird Dog Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 February 2018 at 23:37
	You. Are making great progress. Can't wait to see the BUG in end of April.
	Irish Bird Dog NRA Life/Endowment 2nd Amendment Supporter

Irish Bird Dog Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby Too many Joined: 01 March 2009 Location: Midwest Status: Offline Points: 5574	Post Options Post Reply Quote Irish Bird Dog Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 February 2018 at 23:38
	YouAre making great progress. Can't wait to see the BUG in end of April.
	Irish Bird Dog NRA Life/Endowment 2nd Amendment Supporter

Wing master Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Administrator AKA StraightShooter Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8029	Post Options Post Reply Quote Wing master Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 February 2018 at 00:20
	That's looking great D. I'm starting to see a light at the end of the tunnel. I also can't wait to see it in person. Wing master
	I have always considered myself to be quite the bullshitter, But ocasionally it is nice to sit back and listen to a true professional......So, Carry on.

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	seems like I could see a little 'help' on the front end?? Still looking good.

d4570 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby Joined: 27 January 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 9961	Post Options Post Reply Quote d4570 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 February 2018 at 09:44
	Bear, I was trying to get it stopped before we hit the 4wheeler. The accelerator is a string and it's up front I had to be able to pull it .
	Remember: Four boxes keep us free ,the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, AND the cartridge box

BEAR Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Administrator Joined: 07 September 2013 Location: Appalachian Mtn Status: Offline Points: 14390	Post Options Post Reply Quote BEAR Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 February 2018 at 17:43
	snow brakes???

d4570 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby Joined: 27 January 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 9961	Post Options Post Reply Quote d4570 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 February 2018 at 15:40
	Started the cage for the prop and drive. I'll have three "Hoops" I want to cover the drive unit too as well as the prop. I'll have a removable screen over the motor also . I gave 2 1/2 inches for movement and in the event I go with a bigger prop If I hop the bug up. That gives me 3" to spare to get out of the shop I may not be able to get it under the boat port on a trailer, Dang it. Edited by d4570 - 25 February 2018 at 15:43
	Remember: Four boxes keep us free ,the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, AND the cartridge box

BEAR Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Administrator Joined: 07 September 2013 Location: Appalachian Mtn Status: Offline Points: 14390	Post Options Post Reply Quote BEAR Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 February 2018 at 09:14
	some type of waterproof canvas over the motor moght be good. that prop in a rain storm will really be soaking your bug engine.

d4570 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby Joined: 27 January 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 9961	Post Options Post Reply Quote d4570 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 March 2018 at 14:55
	More cage work.
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	I would add brace here to cage, to keep it from wobbling into prop.
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d4570 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby Joined: 27 January 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 9961	Post Options Post Reply Quote d4570 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 March 2018 at 17:36
	YUP and cross braises in front of the prop too
	Remember: Four boxes keep us free ,the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, AND the cartridge box