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varmintcaller 
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 Topic: Vortex ScopesPosted: 18 December 2011 at 12:36 |
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Im having a Mark V Wby Re barrelled and rechambered to 270 Wby Mag, and am looking for a good ($reasonable$) scope for it. I had intended on purchasing a Bushnell Elite 4200 with rainguard, but I have heard that their customer service has gone to crap, and their quality isnt what it used to be. Im now looking at a Vortex Diamondback 3-9X40, for around $200.00. SWFA OpticsTalk did a test on this scope and rated it better than the Burris, Bushnell, Redfield,Nikon scopes in the $200.00 and under class. Plus ithas a lifetime no questions asked transferrable warranty, with no sales slip required. I really like the rainguard feature of the Bushnells but,not enough to deal with customer service problems. Does anyone have any experience with the Vortex line of scopes? any info would be appreciated. |
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Posted: 18 December 2011 at 13:30 |
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No experience with them but go here to see what they have to say about themselves.........
http://www.vortexoptics.com/content/lrbc_tutorials I emailed them once about their products & said I couldn't find any close to me and they sent back and said if I told them what I wanted to look at they would ship them to a store about 30 miles from me to review them with no obligation to buy....I passed but it seems like that might indicate that they have good customer relations..........a friend of mine has a Vortex (don't know what one) on an AR10 .308 and he really likes it for whatever that is worth. |
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Posted: 18 December 2011 at 16:00 |
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I have a Vortex 6-24X50 on my 6mm TCU. Very bright and clear. My buddy liked mine so much that he bought one for a heavy barrel AR and bought another yesterday for an upcoming .243 Heavy Barrel project. I think I bought mine for < $150 bucks on sale. My buddy bought his yesterday for about that too but I can't remember where he said he got it. I've seen their higher priced line too side by side with a Loopy at the range. For brightness and resolution I'd take the Vortex. My only complaint is that the cross hairs on mine are a bit thick for Long Range P. Doggin. RD
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Posted: 18 December 2011 at 16:04 |
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Varmint; I bought a Vortex 8X monocular to replace the Zeiss that went free to the wild. It's not really comparable to the Zeiss, and it's not fair to try since it cost about one fifth as much. But, it's a very good performing optic for the money. 900F |
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Posted: 19 December 2011 at 19:31 |
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Thank you all for the replies, I just found out that Redfield scopes are bieng made by Leupold, and are in my price range so Im going to check them out also, Ill let you know what happens. thanks again..Mike |
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Posted: 20 December 2011 at 18:29 |
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Went to a Sportsmans Warehouse near me and took a look at the Redfield 3-9X50 scope, compared it to the Bushnell 4200, (they didnt have a Vortex). I liked what I saw and the only one they had was a demo. The guy behind the counter said I could have it for $150.00 so I took it. It doesnt have a mark on it and it has the Accurange reticle. I cant wait till I get my Mark V back from Weatherby. |
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Posted: 21 December 2011 at 01:47 |
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We have 5 Redfield now and 7 Leupold's There are others but were talking this type. As we compare the Redfield's, seam to be very equal in performance and like you say WAY cheaper. Personally I feel there a VERY good scope. The one I have on my 45/70 gives me plenty of eye relief, we have them on two 375' too. The 4X12 in the 22/250 is clear WAY out on 12. There Well worth the investment. On a side note ,we had an OLD ( over 50 years)Leupold that was on a gun we got used that was bad . We sent it in and they repaired it, sent us the history on the scope, FOR FREE!!!!
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Posted: 21 December 2011 at 11:06 |
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Happy to hear that you have had such good luck with the Redfield scopes, I like ehat I see so far. I also have an oldie Leupold sscope, I bought it in 1966 from the Herters catalog, Its as good mechanically as the the day I bought it, been on a Wby 300 mag all this time and i am passing the gun and scope to my son this summer. I sent a Luepold Rifleman scope back to them to see if they could loosen up the power ring knob, not only did the fix the knob, but they completely rebuilt the scope and didnt charge me a cent. Thats one o f the reasons I got the Redfield, hassle free service. |
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Posted: 13 October 2012 at 13:45 |
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vI have a 3x9 redfield on my new 7 mag and i like it fine ! however i think i will put it on my 270 and put the vx3 3.5x10 on my 7 mag. No question the vx 3 is better, but I could get 3 ofvthe redfields for the price of the VX3...tj3006 |
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Posted: 15 October 2012 at 06:00 |
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glad you gat the Redfield scope. I think they are just the same as the Rifleman line of leupold scopes and made in the USA. Getting back to Vortex. At the moment there are four distinct riflescope product lines marketed by Vortex:
Funny thing is today everyone talks about brightness and clarity in scopes. I have found the cheapest $45 scopes to be bright and clear...but after a few rounds they are mechanically broken and don't hold zero (example Tasco). So I Never rate brightness...mechanical considerations are what counts today. Most anyone can make a clear bright scope today with all the great quality and fast grinding lenses machines available now. When I bought my firsst scope in 1960, that wasn't the case...it was a Weaver (rated best available) and by today's standard was junk; optically and mechanically. I only buy scopes made in japan or the USA. |
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Posted: 15 October 2012 at 07:54 |
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I just put a diamondback on a nice little 7mm-08 this
weekend and so far I have been impressed. Only time will tell how it holds up. |
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Posted: 15 October 2012 at 08:34 |
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Mt let us know how it holds up. We are always looking for decent reasonable scopes. Glass has gotten so expensive.
I did find a bargain on a Leupold VX-2 3-9x 40mm in Silver, $229. If it had been in Blue, I'd have boought 5 of them. Good Glass and mounts are getting to be more expensive than rifles!! |
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Posted: 16 October 2012 at 11:15 |
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Yep I agree. I decided to change the scope on my 338 this
year so I ended up buying a new leupold VX-R 4X12 CDS scope. I got the custom dial setup and it appears to work pretty well. It was pretty pricey so I decided to get a cheaper scope on the 7mm-08. The 338 is my goto gun that gets used hard and takes the most abuse by far. I have worked up a nice load for the 7mm-08. I have not put it across the chronograph yet to see what it is doing but I am getting about one inch groups at 100 yards so it shoots nice for a cheap gun. |
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Posted: 17 October 2012 at 06:46 |
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the 7-08 and the 260 are great accurate and killing rounds breed from the NATO parent.
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Posted: 17 October 2012 at 14:44 |
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MtElkHunter; I'd like to see that scope on your .338. Mine's got a Zeiss Conquest 3-10 44mm mil-dot on it & it's been an excellent scope. It's been a few years, but seem to recall paying something in the mid 500's for it. First mounts I had on the gun were Burris, with a Leupold scope in them. The mounts wouldn't hold up, the scope is fine, but on another gun. The current mounts are Talley lightweights, but they deliver heavyweight performance in comparison to the B brand. 900F |
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Posted: 18 October 2012 at 08:09 |
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I can certainly take a picture of my ugly old gun... Why
you would want to see it i don't know. It the old paddle stocked Ruger. Everyone dislikes those old Ruger paddle stock guns....Mine is one of the first ones when they started chambering them in 338. My old gun has seen more miles than Hillary Clinton!! I have thought about updating it to a newer 338 but I really have a hard time doing that because this one performs better than most. I shoot two loads in this gun a 250 grain hornady round nose for practice and general plinking and a 250 grain nosler partition for hunting. The hornady shoots at 2800 FPS and will group all day long into 3/4 inch. The nosler shoots at 2825 FPS and groups about 1.25 inches. I have seen most 338's shoot around 2700 and 1.5 inches so I don't see any real benefit to getting rid of it and getting a new one. |
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Posted: 18 October 2012 at 11:25 |
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Sounds like a good rifle to me. If you don't like the fiber paddle, you could add a nice laminate wood stock in say, coffee brown. My 338 has one looks good to me and it is indestructible. |
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MtElkHunter; Nope, don't need a picture of the gun, but am sorta interested in the scope. I've got one of those boat oar stocks on my early 77/22, and I kinda like it. Never tried one of the centerfire guns with one though. The guy I bought my present house from tried to sell me his Ruger 77 boat oar in .338 Winchester magnum though. Said every time he shot it, it was like getting hit in the shoulder with a dull axe! Yours sure sounds like a keeper to me. 900F |
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Posted: 19 October 2012 at 06:49 |
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It does kick pretty good. I had a muzzle brake put on it
and that helped the recoil a lot but make it much louder. The scope looks nice, I had to get new 30MM rings. The 30MM ruger rings are pricey... I was going to order a set and a guy at the local gun shop overheard me talking about them and said he had a set for sale. He had ordered them and then decided not to get a 30MM scope so he sold them to me for a reasonable price. I have a couple of those laminate stocks on other rifles and they work fine, I have thought about putting one on the 338 but have not done it yet. I think I am going to see how the new scope does this hunting season and maybe try a new stock after the season is over so that i don't mess up a good thing during the season. First day of the general rifle season is tomorrow so time to stop stop playing with the gear and go hunting. Later Mt |
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Posted: 19 October 2012 at 08:06 |
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good luck MT. go get 'em.
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