S&W md.13 vs Ruger md. SP101 or GP100

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  I been looking at a .38/.357 in either a Ruger SP 101 or GP 100, at work the other day I was doing some catalog looking at them and pondering about getting one in a month or two and one of my co workers who is a certified gun nut ask what I was up to.Told him and he says he has a couple of S&W mod. 13's and would sell me one of them for $350. I looked at the one he wants to sell it's blue,looks like a 3" barrel,nice and tight,only wear is right at the tip of the barrel from a holster. Don't care for the grips at all to skinny for me.
  If I go with the Ruger I get a warr.,none with the S&W. Price is about the same. Never owned a Smith before and can't find nothing about the Md. 13 on their web sight. This is a model 10 but it's all I could find on the web thats close.

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Tikkabuck Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Administrator Robert E. Lee IV Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8740	Topic: S&W md.13 vs Ruger md. SP101 or GP100 Posted: 25 February 2004 at 04:28
	Folks I been looking at a .38/.357 in either a Ruger SP 101 or GP 100, at work the other day I was doing some catalog looking at them and pondering about getting one in a month or two and one of my co workers who is a certified gun nut ask what I was up to.Told him and he says he has a couple of S&W mod. 13's and would sell me one of them for $350. I looked at the one he wants to sell it's blue,looks like a 3" barrel,nice and tight,only wear is right at the tip of the barrel from a holster. Don't care for the grips at all to skinny for me. If I go with the Ruger I get a warr.,none with the S&W. Price is about the same. Never owned a Smith before and can't find nothing about the Md. 13 on their web sight. This is a model 10 but it's all I could find on the web thats close. Edited by Tikkabuck
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NH_Hunter Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby aka The Kid Joined: 13 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3508	Posted: 25 February 2004 at 06:18
	What will you do with the gun? My mom has an SP101, and it doesnt kick too bad. That is with .357's. It is a pretty nice little gun, and it fits my hand. The double action pull is a little bit heavier and travels farther than i would like. NH_Hunter

mr mom Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .30/06 SpringField Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 342	Posted: 25 February 2004 at 06:47
	mike : the older smith might be a little smoother than the ruger. and if i remember it is the k frame and you can get all types of grips to fit. . i would go for the smith.
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Triggerguard Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby aka The San Antonio Terminator Joined: 13 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2212	Posted: 25 February 2004 at 08:06
	It is a K frame. S&W will be smoother, no doubt, Ruger will be stronger. If you are planning on shooting 5000+ rounds per year, get the Ruger. It will still be going strong when the Smith has been retimed twice. If you are planning on carrying a lot, but shooting relatively little, go for the Smith. I don't mean to imply Smiths are not adequately strong, just that they will wear faster than Rugers, on average.
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Tikkabuck Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Administrator Robert E. Lee IV Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8740	Posted: 25 February 2004 at 10:49
	Don't plan on doing much with,maybe carring it in the woods ,shoot it now and then. My carry gun around town is the Kimber and in the woods now I carry a Taurus M941 in .22 mag loaded up with snake shot. The only .357/38 I have is the Blackhawk and it's a little heavy to tote around. Just looking for a little bit more power in a wheel gun. Excuse my ignorance but retimed??? Edited by Tikkabuck
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North Logan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby aka The Legendary Lawman Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 1728	Posted: 25 February 2004 at 16:38
	Hi Mike - The S&W Model 13 is the fixed site "K" frame equivalent of the Model 19 "Combat Magnum" .357 [which has the adjustable rear site]. Here's a pic of a Model 13 with a 4" barrel: The stainless steel version is called the Model 65. They are a basic econo .357 Magnum revolver from S&W. I think that $350 US sounds a little steep for a used one. I can get a Model 13 around my neck of the woods for $250 - $300 Canadian [about $190 to $225 US]. If you can get a brand new Ruger for $350 US then I'd go for the Ruger. I will say I've owned a Model 13 before and there is certainly nothing wrong with them. The grips issue is not a big deal as there are plenty of after-market grips for S&W revolvers one of which will undoubtedly fit your hand. I prefer Pachmayr "grippers" for my S&W's... Revolver in the middle is my Model 19 "Combat Magnum" .357 ... *Regards, Marcus.*
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Triggerguard Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby aka The San Antonio Terminator Joined: 13 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2212	Posted: 25 February 2004 at 16:59
	Timing refers to the sequence of events that lead to the cylinder rotating, the bolt popping up into its stop, the movement of the trigger/hammer/hand, etc. A revolver that is "out of time" will not allow the cylinder to allign properly with the barrel, and you will get lead or bullet jacket fragments from the barrel/cylinder gap, along with more than the normal amount of powder gasses. Retiming means replacing/refitting all those precisely fitted parts back into spec so this doesn't happen. Ruger DA revolvers seem less likly to wear in this manner than Smiths. Unless you shoot chingos amounts of ammunition from it, it isn't likely to be much of a problem.
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Tikkabuck Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Administrator Robert E. Lee IV Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8740	Posted: 25 February 2004 at 17:09
	Thanks For the input folks.
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North Logan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby aka The Legendary Lawman Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 1728	Posted: 26 February 2004 at 06:21
	Here's a pic of that S&W Model 14 in .38 Special I picked up recently. Got at super deal at $260 Canadian [about $195 US].... I added a set of Pachmayr grippers I already had....ammo is Winchester 110 gr JHP +P...
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Tikkabuck Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Administrator Robert E. Lee IV Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8740	Posted: 26 February 2004 at 08:31
	Went for the Smith,we reached a deal that no way I could pass on,and with no shipping,tax's or that stupid background $10.00 in trash no way I could pass her by. You are right the action is buttery smooth.Now for some better grips.
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North Logan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby aka The Legendary Lawman Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 1728	Posted: 26 February 2004 at 08:35
	Hey Mike - Real nice piece! Nice part about the shorter barrel Smiths is usually they come with the round butt. A nice pair of Pachmayrs to fit the round butt would be perfect. Here's a pic of a set on a "J" frame snubbie in .38 Special[frame size smaller than the "K" frame Model 13] for example: S&W Model 37 "Airweight" .38 Special. *Fit the hand nicer than the factory* wood stocks but still compact enough for concealment. Also the rubber is nicer on the hand when shooting full house ammo...** Edited by North Logan
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dakotasin Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Administrator a TRUE brother-in-arms! Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4099	Posted: 26 February 2004 at 12:22
	well, hell! there's barney! moose, i found him shortly after i replied to the other thread... interested?? i have a 686, which is built on a frame size slightly larger than the m13. i like the pachmayr combat grips. the finger grooves are very comfortable and confidence-inspiring. here's a shot of the grips only. note the open backstrap, which moves the index finger closer to the trigger, dramatically altering the feel and comfort on the gun. the combat grips just fit me so well, especially on this large-framed gun. you might check to see if you prefer an open backstrap (like mine), or a closed backstrap (which will push your finger away from the trigger just a bit... i can't tell for sure, but i think the grips on nl's pics are closed backstraps). good luck, and enjoy your new piece.
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