stretching the 8

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   Rem 700 24" barrel 1x10 twist, 8mm Rem mag.I have been using this for hunting this year and really liking it. With the currant shortages I have been reluctant to be playing with it. So far My go to loads are reloader and Barnes tsx 200 3200 fps, and reloader 26 and sierra 220, 3100 fps.
I have shot them both at 500 yards both shoot in a 5" group. And mostly the same POI the 220 are about 5" lower but both center target.
This is my current scope,
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019KDSRBG?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details
http://https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019KDSRBG?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details  Burris Optics Fullfield E1 Riflescope 4.5-14x42mm, Matte Black
Burris Optics Fullfield E1 Riflescope 4.5-14x42mm, Matte Black

Burris Droptine Riflescope with Ballistic Plex Reticle, 4.5-14x 42mm

I have this one on order originally thought for my 6mm rem but a swap may be better.??

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019KDSRBG?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details
http://https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019KDSRBG?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details
Burris Optics Fullfield E1 Riflescope 4.5-14x42mm, Matte Black

I have been "Testing " On deer and antelope at 400 to 500 yards. I have been using the Barnes for hunting, It IS VERY hard for me to turn my back on the Barnes. I use them for ALL my hunting bullets and have NEVER been let down. I need more practice at over 400 yards. At $2.50 a shot with the Barnes, well you get the point. The 220's are about $.90 cheaper to shoot, and way more available .
In my heart I think the 220's would be a better longer shot choice. SO!
All this is going to this. ?
 Now I understand neither scope  or barrel or bullet is a LONG distance Apprentice.
But from what I have been seeing The 8 will hit. and kill most north American game animals at well over 500 yards. 
Which scope and which bullet would you concentrate your time and resources on.

Edited by d4570 - 14 November 2021 at 09:45

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d4570 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby Joined: 27 January 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 9961	Post Options Post Reply Quote d4570 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: stretching the 8 Posted: 14 November 2021 at 09:40
	Rem 700 24" barrel 1x10 twist, 8mm Rem mag. I have been using this for hunting this year and really liking it. With the currant shortages I have been reluctant to be playing with it. So far My go to loads are reloader and Barnes tsx 200 3200 fps, and reloader 26 and sierra 220, 3100 fps. I have shot them both at 500 yards both shoot in a 5" group. And mostly the same POI the 220 are about 5" lower but both center target. This is my current scope, https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019KDSRBG?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details http://https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019KDSRBG?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details Burris Optics Fullfield E1 Riflescope 4.5-14x42mm, Matte Black Burris Optics Fullfield E1 Riflescope 4.5-14x42mm, Matte Black Burris Droptine Riflescope with Ballistic Plex Reticle, 4.5-14x 42mm I have this one on order originally thought for my 6mm rem but a swap may be better.?? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019KDSRBG?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details http://https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019KDSRBG?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details Burris Optics Fullfield E1 Riflescope 4.5-14x42mm, Matte Black I have been "Testing " On deer and antelope at 400 to 500 yards. I have been using the Barnes for hunting, It IS VERY hard for me to turn my back on the Barnes. I use them for ALL my hunting bullets and have NEVER been let down. I need more practice at over 400 yards. At $2.50 a shot with the Barnes, well you get the point. The 220's are about $.90 cheaper to shoot, and way more available . In my heart I think the 220's would be a better longer shot choice. SO! All this is going to this. ? Now I understand neither scope or barrel or bullet is a LONG distance Apprentice. But from what I have been seeing The 8 will hit. and kill most north American game animals at well over 500 yards. Which scope and which bullet would you concentrate your time and resources on. Edited by d4570 - 14 November 2021 at 09:45
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BEAR Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Administrator Joined: 07 September 2013 Location: Appalachian Mtn Status: Offline Points: 14390	Post Options Post Reply Quote BEAR Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 November 2021 at 10:10
	Scope, I think the Burris is fine for hunting at those distances. If it looks clear to you. Bullet: for thin skinned game any hunting bullet will work. And they will all work well in the 8 Rem mag. It is not like this is your PD rifle. you will not be shooting it a whole lot. I ALWAYS pick the hunting bullet that shoots best in my rifle. You BIG 8 represents a problem at long range, as the velocity drops some bullets will not expand as much as you would like. For deer and antelope almost any bullet in the 8 will kill even without expansion. Personally I never use Barnes, as they are solid and don't espand wll for me on thin skinned game, and are not tough enough for really big stuff like griz, elk and buffalo. And they copper foul my barrels. I load them for my bro's 340 Weatherby and they make cleaning a big chore. Alighter bullet, like a 186gr would give you slightly better ballistics and reduce recoil, if that is a concern. All that said...since the 8 likes the Barnes 220 and you like it, and the game seem to not like it....why switch. Get the family to get you two boxes for Christmas and live happy ever after.
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d4570 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby Joined: 27 January 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 9961	Post Options Post Reply Quote d4570 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 November 2021 at 13:41
	Recoil is never a problem. All though the BIG flame at first light was a bit surprising. The Barnes are 200 gr but a smidgen longer then the Sierra's 220 gr. I was think the extra weight would help out at 600 yards. To practice right I would have to shoot multiple hundreds over the year to be better. And to save $.90 a shot is a lot, plus I can get them in many different places, in stock! Barnes anything seem to be non existent. Funny thing I only get about 75 shells out of a pound of powder... They both seem to be very accurate out of my Rem. And stay about the same at 500 yards, 5 inch groups. My loads on both stay above the speed of sound at 1000 yards. Which scope should I put on? Edited by d4570 - 15 November 2021 at 08:07
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