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   Chicken snake is a generic name for any snake that eats eggs or baby chicks.
Usually used by those too lazy to check and see what kind of snake it is. Around here, it is most likely to be the Texas Rat Snake, or one of the racer family. I don't kill snakes unless it is absolutely neccessary.

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Triggerguard Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby aka The San Antonio Terminator Joined: 13 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2212	Post Options Post Reply Quote Triggerguard Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 January 2005 at 00:53
	Chicken snake is a generic name for any snake that eats eggs or baby chicks. Usually used by those too lazy to check and see what kind of snake it is. Around here, it is most likely to be the Texas Rat Snake, or one of the racer family. I don't kill snakes unless it is absolutely neccessary.
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d4570 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby Joined: 27 January 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 9961	Post Options Post Reply Quote d4570 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 January 2005 at 03:19
	It's a real shame the bull snake looks so much like a rattlesnake. It's a good defense for the bull in the wild "BUT" not when old "D" comes a long and steps in the middle of him! I have been loosing my hearing for some time now (big guns) and can't hear them , or my wife, any more so I've ended up very close to them some times. The poor bull normally gets a taste of lead first, before I get a good look. A bull snake is a good snake ,they eat rattlers!!
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Tikkabuck Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Administrator Robert E. Lee IV Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8740	Post Options Post Reply Quote Tikkabuck Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 January 2005 at 03:28
	Here in Tn. if you have a chicken snake (which is called a black snake because they are pure black everywhere),around your house it's a good thing they kill copperheads,and boy is it a neat thing to watch.
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Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 January 2005 at 04:51
	Most snakes are not endangered. Poisonous snakes I consider vermin, add watersnakes to my personal hit list too. Some places there are too many black snakes and they are tough on ground nesting birds (pheasant/turkey/etc). It they get the field-mice they are good. BEAR

Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 January 2005 at 04:52
	Is the general feeling of dislike for snakes Biblical? Or did the Bible make snakes the villian because everyone disliked them already??? Pretty niffty snake in the Passion of Christ. BEAR

Hudge Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .375 Holland & Holland Magnum Joined: 30 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 889	Post Options Post Reply Quote Hudge Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 January 2005 at 06:04
	I ran across a rattler last year while hunting here in MT. I turned around to walk out on the trail I came in on, and there he was. I heard his rattle, and jumped, at that time the sucker struck at me! It's a good thing they can really only go half their length when they strike at you. That was closer than I liked, and I left that area. Almost crapped myself too. Hudge

Gunrunner Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby Forest Grump Joined: 05 July 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1970	Post Options Post Reply Quote Gunrunner Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 January 2005 at 08:58
	I've never heard the term chicken snake before. Besides the Southern Pacific Rattler we had Gopher snakes, Racers, and King snakes. Those 3 are non-venomous. I've been startled a few times by Gophers because they look similar to a rattler, and they can get awfully big. But they eat a lot of rodents. The Kings are my favorite. They eat rattlesnakes. Bear, that's a good question. I don't know the answer. It makes me think of those churches where a minister walks around the congregation carrying a venomous snake. IMHO those people are NUTS!!
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Timberghozt Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Administrator aka GarryOwen Joined: 21 March 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1971	Post Options Post Reply Quote Timberghozt Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 January 2005 at 12:00
	GunRunner, that famous church is over in Bradshaw,West Virginia.It is about 45 minutes from where I hunted at in the mountains last year.I agree with ya,if your crazy enough to snatch up a rattlesnake or copperhead and go to dancin and such...you deserve to get bit..
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Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 January 2005 at 02:58
	Glad to hear that is in southern WV, 390 miles from me. I will not be putting anything in that collection plate soon. BEAR

saddlesore Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby Joined: 16 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1345	Post Options Post Reply Quote saddlesore Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 January 2005 at 11:46
	Bear. I believe you have a better chance of coming upon a rattler in the PA mountains than I do out here in CO. I don't take any particular precautions, but I sure do watch around whenI 'm dove or antelope hunting in early fall. But I think these prarie ratlers are more aggressive or just ahve bad days compared to the eastern diamondback, but the worse ones I have found to be the nastiest are those dang small little sidewinders in the Nevada desert.
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Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 January 2005 at 10:16
	SS, Anything with venom is bad in my boot. Hunted a lot of African plains were the black Mamba was present. They can stand up 4+ foot off the ground and spit in your eye. The PH's warned about them. I hate snakes. Never saw and black or green mambas. thanks. Except a few in my dreams, sleeping in huts without windows or doors. You can bet I never put my foot out of bed in the morning without throwing a boot across the room and looking close while hiding in the covers. Saw lots of big...big constrictors there. an some pit vipers, they look like and eastern rattle. Locally we have a fair population of the Massasauga rattlers, it is small but is the most deadly of the rattlers. It has very large holes in it's fangs for injecting. I've seen a few and killed one that had my Brittany cornered. The dog keep pointing it. BEAR

275rigby Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .22 LongRifle Joined: 28 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 10	Post Options Post Reply Quote 275rigby Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 February 2005 at 12:02
	I've hunted the swamps here in south Alabama for about 30 years and have had numerous close encounters with cottonmouths, even had a small one strike my hunting boot but he couldnt penetrate it. He was just too small. The main thing is too just watch the area you are walking in and don't step over logs or where you can't see. I also carry a 38 snub with snake shot in it in my pocket. We rake crawfish out of the sloughs for catfish bait and see quit a few moccasins while doing this...but as far as wearing special snake boots...that's for sissies... Edited by 275rigby
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Blkpwdernut Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .375 Holland & Holland Magnum Joined: 28 July 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 561	Post Options Post Reply Quote Blkpwdernut Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 February 2005 at 13:35
	Ive seen lots of Black Rat snakes around here (which are not black while in juvenile stage but are green) and been chased across a pasture by a blue racer (not that they are fast but he just kept coming) killed a few rattlers in Georgia while I lived there (only the ones that came into the yard) and have never worn snake boots although I would like a pair. Snakes dont bother me at all as long as I can see them not even venomous ones, I used to have 3 6 foot burmese pythons as pets.
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DanWalker Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .243 Winchester Joined: 05 April 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 168	Post Options Post Reply Quote DanWalker Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 February 2005 at 11:56
	an area in NC where me and my brother in law used to fish was infested with cottonmouths. We'd kill one or two every time we went in there. The hariest situation was the afternoon we had my boat turned sideways in a small side channel and were fishing for bluegills in downed treetops. We'd just swapped ends of the boat so's I could fish in the good spot for a bit, when cottonmouths started dropping out of the downed trees all around us, and trying to get into my boat. He reached in my tackle box for my snake gun.(H&R 9 shot 22), and I dug out his piece of junk lorcin 22 auto, and we went to work on them snakes. We probably killed two dozen in the space of 2 or 3 minutes. It got exciting for a bit, especially on my end of the boat. His lorcin was jamming about every second shot!
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Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 February 2005 at 03:03
	I've found that 22rf bird shot (Usually #12) is effective on mice, but just pisses off snakes. The snakes are pretty muscular (no penetration?) and the shot at 12 foot just makes them mad. They do usually coil and 2nd, 3rd and 4th shots at closer range kills them. 38 shot cartridges are a lot better. BEAR

275rigby Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .22 LongRifle Joined: 28 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 10	Post Options Post Reply Quote 275rigby Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 February 2005 at 02:45
	u r so right Bear. If you use speer shot caps and 8 1/2's or 9 shot and the recommended powder charge, it makes a good snake load even out of a snub. I also load them (shotcaps) for my .44 but the gun itself is heavy (S&W 29) and can't be just dropped in the pocket like my model 649.
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Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 February 2005 at 03:06
	I use the yellow tipped 38 speers in my alum frame S&W snubbie. It coils them right up. At close range (I seldom get that close) it can actually olmost cut their necks of. BEAR

drinksgin Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .243 Winchester Joined: 17 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 218	Post Options Post Reply Quote drinksgin Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 February 2005 at 13:14
	I use something similar, take rifle cases same base as .45acp, there are several, cut to 1.55",drill primer pocket out to twice original size[ if you do not, the case will back out when shot and jam the cylinder], load 2.5gr Universal or Unique, a 1/8" felt wad, 120gr #7 1/2 and cap with a posterboard wad. I use these in my 1917 with full moon clips, makes a decent pattern at 10-15 ft Don
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Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 February 2005 at 12:11
	That 1917 is a heavy weight snake gun, but it also works for grizzlies. I'll stick with my airweight. Over the years I've found that while I like heavy guns to shoot, the chance that you take it off for relaxation is usually the time you might really need it. BEAR

Timberghozt Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Administrator aka GarryOwen Joined: 21 March 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1971	Post Options Post Reply Quote Timberghozt Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 February 2005 at 14:35
	Sissies,huh... http://www.empiretribune.com/EMPIRETRIBUNE/myheadline.asp?S= 425&PubID=17447&P=1086035
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