SCOPECHIEF

WHAAAAAAA. One of their better scopes? How do you get that. The top three would have to be 4200, 3200, Legend, Trophy, Sportsman. If you go to the website those are the only non-.22 riflescopes they make right now.

NH_Hunter

O, are you bored of picking on Rob1 because he fights back so you come after the teen. That is really manly of you Pocketnavy.

NH_Hunter

this is just an observation, but i might interject my opinion here.

NH is a young shooter and hunter, and has a lot of enthusiasm for these sports. i see no reason to discourage him from any enthusiasm by putting him down. sure, he gets rowdy, but then again, we all were when we were that age.

perhaps it would be better to look for positive ways to teach him about the outdoors sports and the way things should be done. in other words, give him some well-meaning advice from us old-timers. we've got a lot of knowledge and experience here. it would be a crime not to share it with our young sportsmen.

Sorry, i have a very light breaking point. I guess i need to work on thickening my hide.

NH_Hunter

You are taking a side, that's fine just admit it. Looking at this thread  alone it would appear it's a two way street. But that isn't the case. Per usual Fred once again got something started with yet another poster than crys when he gets it back. Here's a little history lesson for those unaware of the beginning of my opinion on Fred. I started on Shooter's Sept 9th or so 2001. A month or so later a thread came up where a shooter mentioned his Remington Mtn. Rifle was stringing groups, especially after fifteen or so shots in a five minute time frame. I made the simple comment not to shoot on such a hot barrel. The resident expert, Rusty Rifling chimed in and he soon turned sarcastic and I followed. Out of the clear blue, Fred, then Sibelius chimed in with this.

LOL! Hi RUSTYRIFLING . . . strikes me that DEMPSEY hasn't learned a very important lesson about criticizing or judging people on Shooters.com. About the time you feel like an expert, you find out you are talking to another Elmer Keith! Many people on here, especially the old-timers, have years and years of hunting experience. And yet, many of them, myself included, still have to ask questions about lots of things. It's the way we learn and improve any expertise we have. I have people tell me something that I have known for years, but there is no future in getting on here and telling someone that they "know nothing about . . .." That is a quick way for a person to make a fool out of themselves - which is about the only way to be a fool.

A case in point, not long ago I went to the range with a new rifle and a new scope. Frankly, I was nervous and felt inept. It had been so long. Over walked this guy, about 6' 3" and built like Stallone. He talked about my rifle, watched me take on shot - spotted the shot for me - and then offered to help. I said, "Sure." He said, "move it left 4 clicks and up 16! I did what he said and fired a 3/4" group just a 1/2" off the bullseye! Now, like some, I could have said, "I can do it myself!" And alienate him, but I didn't. Turns out he is an Alaskan guide, who had lived in Alaska for years, who guides hunts from Colorado to Alaska. I NEEDED his expertise. I wonder what he would have done If I had told him that "he didn't know anything about accuracy and I have to cool my barrel for 20 minutes between shots!"

Naah, DEMPSEY needs to learn a good lesson. Having seen your posts, and knowing your specialty, he made a fool out of himself. By the way, I like that "one-shot group" suggestion. LOL!

Just another example of Fred jumping in on a topic he knows nothing about, and thinking he jumped in on the side of a supposed expert. He did get one thing right. "A case in point, not long ago I went to the range with a new rifle and a new scope. Frankly, I was nervous and felt inept. It had been so long" Obviously nothings changed.

He did the exact same thing on the fluting debate on shooters a week or so ago. He jumped in with High Master and against LRNUT thinking this would be a chance to get something on LRNUT. Funny how he shut up when his hero expert was proven absolutely false. He does this constantly. He can't fight his own battles, he always attempts to enlist others and many of the peanut gallery, as Esatman puts it, chimes right on in. So just in case there is any question why I dispise the prick it should be answered. I tried on shooters after his initial BS to let it pass as it usually does. For a time we were cordial, for a brief time even friendly. After his wookie thread settled down and he reappeared I just went about my business and let him do the same. I come in today and he's right back at it. I'm done letting him slide. Let him whine and threaten to leave all he wants, the fact is he brings it ALL on himself and whatever he gets he planted the seed with his BS.

klallen

 NH was dead wrong information wise, that wasn't the question or issue I presented and I think NH would admit his error. My point is if Fred was just getting what he started some time ago. And after all the faulty info Fred has spouted over the years he should be the last to correct a error. As to getting bored, ya, you think it would happen.  But Fred can't seem to let well enough alone. I'm sure you don't notice, but 99% of the time it is he who gets it started then cries wookiee when he gets it back. It ain't going to end by me taking his insults. He started this whole  thing he can end it by just keeping his insults to himself or using the pm feature to air his frustration.

I'm sure you can see I was taking no sides.  Don't accuse me of things that aren't true.  That's all I ask.  >>  klallen 

Ok, it appears I as wrong and I apologize for that insinuation since I have no reason to believe your not being sincere at this point.