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    Posted: 09 December 2010 at 05:06

anyone know of an easy way to attach a rubber eye piece to a scope eyelens?

Was thinking soft rubber ring to avoid scope scars.

Hunting Tues, I shot a doe.  It was cold and windy, and I forgot my shooting stick as I huddled behind my burlap blind watching deer move.  I used my seat back as a rifle rest and was shooting at a 20 degree down slope, leaning sideways.  the seat back meant I could not get my left hand on the forearm, and that ngle forced me to shoot of my arm (not shoulder).  perfect heart shot.

I made the shot but the 4-16x scope on my 300 RUM wacked me.  first time it happened.  I can tell you the 300 RUM load full up is not the ideal single handed rifle to shoot.  I was bleeding more than Bambi for the 2 hour gut/drag thing.

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Same thing almost happened to me. Last deer i got this season, i didn't quite have my 338 Win Mag settled in my shoulder snugly enough and when i squeezed off, i got a nice tap on the bridge of my nose. Didn't cut me but enough to give me a wake up call. My buddy from work shoots a 338 too and last year he had a nasty cut on the bridge of his nose from his.

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I have 5 stitches!

Now I have 5 inches of eye relief on the scope. I don't think "FOAM" would Work...

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This is what you're looking for, I got them online, Natchez, I think.  You may find it elsewhere, as Natchez's shipping is terrible price, unless you are already ordering.  It helps, though it's not a shock absorber, it will make cut less severe, what gets me is shooting prone off bipod.

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Thanks Robert found the company

http://www.quakeinc.com/thanks.html

unfortunately they are out of stock.  I'll keep searching.

After getting whacked Tues evening, this morning I jogged into a partially open (also partially closed) garage door.....knocked myself dizzy and now have a large lump and two gashes on my head.  At least I'm not damaging important organs!



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Bear;

Go to the Brownell's website & search either "soft eye" or Dvorak.  They are a sort of shock absorber it seems.

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I got clipped by a 2-5 on my Mossberg 500 Shotgun while sighting it in for turkey use. Not a bad cut but a hell of a blow just the same. If I'd have had a hammer handy I doubt if I'd have had to remove scope, mounts, or base with a screwdriver. Don't think I was more pissed at any time in my life. I don't do pain well at all. I can sympathise completely. RD
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Bear I am thinking a helmet might be in order.

I am still trying to figure out why you guys are using such big guns for deer. I shot my elk this year with my .270. My daughter thought I was cheating becuse she shot hers with a .257 Roberts. "Why do you need such a big gun daddy?" Mine took two shots.

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I looked at the accordion style eye cups, I wondered what would happen to your eyeball, when it compresses on recoil, I figured, I would rather be a knot head, than learn to shoot wrong sided.

It's not the eye relief or the caliber of the rifle, it's the position you're in when you take the shot.  Most of the times, I've been cut, I've had a fair idea it could happen and chose to take shot anyway.  I'm sure Bear was not shocked, when he got bit shooting 300 rum one handed, I'm sure it was in back of his mind and would like to minimize future cuts.

Any prone shot at maxed out scope power and an uphill angle will get you, unless you are so concerned about getting scoped, you miss the shot.  You can set your scope up for only prone shots, but then you can't get eye close enough to scope for any other position.

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Weren't some of the early scopes actually set up to slide through the rings and had a coil spring around the tube to reset them. If they contacted your eye they'd shift forward and reset? RD 
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Rocky;

Yes, that was common on scopes, but it wasn't done for humanitarian reasons.  It was done so the lens's wouldn't shake loose.

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Lots of good thoughts.

yep, I knew the downhill shot,  1 handed RUMing it, in the blowing snow from the backrest of my hunting stool might be a whacker.  Did it anyway. 

Yep, it was like a hammer in the head, actually I have a very high pain threshold (drugs and diabetes?) but I actually did not lose sight of the deer and saw it go straight up and down then hit the ground dead...then I thought my nose was running down on my chest....just a solid stream of blood.  all those blood thinners I take everyday, mean slow coagulating and slow healing.  Filled two large orange bandannas, now red bandannas.Wink  then a half roll of paper towels, to get it to only bleed slowly.  I think I will start carrying some med for bleeding, as I was not as remote as usual and really could have a bleeding problem in a large cut accident.

I was just looking for a rubber ring, in case the problem rises up and hits me again.  CB and Robert have the idea I was thinking of.

Yesterday I walk/jogged into a half open garage door, raising a large bump on my forehead beside the scab....maybe Wing is right.  I will start hunting and wearing my safety helmet.

Big guns!  Well, no one needs to shoot a big gun for a little thing like a deer.  My 257 r does a great job.  But I'm a gun nut, own 442 deer rifles, and take a different one most days, just to give them a walk in the woods.  Remember large rifles ruin less meat than small bullet moving fast.  My bullet entered the chest hit the heart and exited the sternum, zero meat loss.  But remember it was a steep down hill shot.

I've got a couple of Unertle scopes with the recoil spring.  really a pretty good idea, and as CB said more for the scope than the forehead.

Might take the 30 Herrett out for a walk tomorrow, half day.  we have two big gun shows sat-sun, and I want to hit them both.

 

 

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In all seriousness, It might be a good idea to carry something in your pack to stop bleeding. I cany remember the name, but boxing corner men use some stuff that stops bleeding really fast. Doctors use the same stuff during surgery.

A small container of it in your pack might really be good to have when you are waaay back in the woods.

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YUP!

How many gallons of blood does a "BEAR" hold ????

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Old BEARs leak!
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styptic pencil ,   I have one in my shaving kit.

 

Aluminum sulfate is one of the primary ingredients in the styptic pencil, which you will rub directly on your cut in order to stop it from bleeding. Aluminum sulfate is colorless and odorless in appearance, but it is a powerful agent that is also a key ingredient of sulfuric acid; and it can burn like hell. Because it is employed at only a 56 percent potency in the styptic pencil, the user does not have to worry about burning the skin. Aluminum sulfate is a vasoconstrictor that will restrict the flow of blood in the area where it is applied.





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I've used a styptic pencil for shaving too but found some styptic powder somewhere (CRS taking over here) and it works faster and easier than a styptic pencil. Burns like hell but stops the bleeding nearly instantly. Was in a barber shop years back where the barber shaved the back of your neck with a straight razor. He was yakking away with everybody in the place and not paying particular attention to what he was doing and lopped a pencil erasor sized mole off a customers neck. Needed LOTS of styptic powder to stop that one. Customer wasn't too pleased, barber didn't charge him and that seemed to make things semi OK. Probably would have been a $50000 haircut in today's litigious society.

BTW, I do have styptic powder that I carry for my dogs when hunting. Never know when a barb wire fence or old piece of farm machinery in a fencerow might open something up. Might work on BEARS if needed too. RD

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Here's a source for SHTF

http://www.chinookmed.com/cgi-bin/category/s-hemostatics

or just in case.

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the Celox looks good, I'll have to pick some up..for my safety  hunting kit.  thanks
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The Celox looks good for the really bad stuff, artillery bleeds and such, the preloaded syringe looks good for a small dia deep penetrating wound, just jamb it in hole and dispense.  What I was thinking of though for you, was the quickclot sport 25g, 50g and first responder 100g teabags/sponges.  A single one of the 25g size would stop a fairly large Bear leak, like a scope cut, knife slip or such.  The Celox has some downside, #1 as a powder, while not as bad as the quickclot powder, you wouldn't want it in your eye.

I've done a little research and even the battle packs have replaced quickclot powder with quickclot gauze and celox is used only for the stuff the gauze won't stop.  The sport version of quickclot sponge, is same strength as military, it just doesn't have gauze pre attached and is in different package.  They also have silver version, preloaded with anti-fungal, antibacterial, it runs about double, but may be an optician.

Beware when you buy it, it has three year shelf life and while it would still work after expiration date, I saw prices from $7.50 on sale to $10 reg price, $23 at survival type internet.  This was for 25g sport, I would not trust the clearance/sale one's dates and I hate getting took, so I would avoid some of the quick buck guys. 

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