.22 Pistols
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Topic: .22 Pistols
Posted By: NH_Hunter
Subject: .22 Pistols
Date Posted: 16 July 2005 at 10:12
Ok, I figured I wanted to get something along the lines of a
Springfield XD 9mm or a Ruger P95, but after going pistol shooting
today, I have found that my accuracy is aweful. I need a .22 handgun so
I can get a lot of practice with cheap ammo. I don't want a Ruger,
since the mk2 is not like any centerfire pistol. I am thinking maybe
about the Walther P22 or a Sig Sauer Mosquito. Now, don't suggest a
1911 with a .22 kit because I shot a Colt Gold Match Cup today and
didn't like how it felt. Also had a jam which was kind of un-nerving.
But anyways, what are your thoughts?
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Posted By: CB900F
Date Posted: 16 July 2005 at 11:32
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NH;
Ruger makes a dedicated .22 rimfire semi-auto with the grip angle of the 1911. I think it's called a 22/45 or something like that. In any case it's the proven Ruger MKII action on a polymer frame with different ergonomics than the standard MKII.
It doesn't matter that its grip is the same as the 1911 pattern pistols, since the 1911's can be had in 9mm, .40, or .45. Or other variants such as the .400 Cor-Bon, .357 SIG, or who knows what else. You'll be able to find something to like regardless of whether or not the .45ACP appeals to you or not.
Or go completely off the rails & get a Browning Buckmark.
900F
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Posted By: bkcorris
Date Posted: 16 July 2005 at 11:41
What do you consider aweful? I think most people have a hard time being
very accurate with an open sighted short handgun, but I may be wrong. I
got a P89 for the slightly longer barrel, it may help accuracy a tad,
or the extra weight might make it worse, plus it's 4.5" barrel makes it
legal to have in the wods around here. Not that it would actually be
used for deer, but it would be illegal to have a shorter one out during
season. Also, how did you compare to the other shooters, maybe its more
the guns than the shooter.
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Posted By: deaddog
Date Posted: 16 July 2005 at 12:24
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Nothing wrong with the guns you are looking at but if you are looking for something accurate the P-22 isn't it. I've shot a bunch of P-22 and owned a P-40 for awhile but dumped it because of the poor accuracy. I've been looking at the Sig pretty hard myself and will probably get one. The thing is for the price of either of those you could have a Ruger and nearly a case of ammo (5000) rounds. I think you'd be quite a pistol shot after burning through all of that. I own a 50th Aniv. and have had at least 7 other MK's all have worked real good.
DD
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Posted By: Spot shooter
Date Posted: 16 July 2005 at 13:17
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I picked up a buck mark last year on clearance.
Killed a good number of squirrels with it.
Wish I could have found a K22... nice.
Spot
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Posted By: NH_Hunter
Date Posted: 16 July 2005 at 13:52
I guess I will just go to the gunshop on Tuesday (he isn't open on
Monday) and see if he has a 22/45 I can hold. I don't like the stupid
mag release on the standard mk2. You do have a point about the price.
They are pretty inexpensive. I will hold one and then get back to you
guys.
About the 1911's. It doesn't fit my hand right. I can get guns that fit my hand better for less money, so why not just do that?
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Posted By: CB900F
Date Posted: 16 July 2005 at 16:39
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NH;
You are making a LARGE generalization, regarding the hand fit of a 1911 pattern .45. There are many variables possible with a 1911 frame. Flat backstrap or the A-1 style, more grips available than you'd believe, beavertail styles, etc, etc. Fat grips, thin grips, smooth grips, skateboard tape, anything.
900F
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Posted By: Gunrunner
Date Posted: 17 July 2005 at 04:11
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NH, if possible have an experienced pistol shooter watch you while shooting. It might take just a suggestion or two on your shooting form to get you hitting the bullseye. Of course, a lot of practice will pay off in the long run.
As far as 22's, the Single-Six is a good one and can be had at a low price. I haven't shot the 22/45 but like the looks of the grip and magazine release compared to my MkII. You might run across a used 22 in nice shape at a good price. Handle as many as you can to see what feels good in your hands.
On the Colt jamming. That might have been your grip on the gun that caused it, not the gun itself.
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Posted By: Wing master
Date Posted: 17 July 2005 at 07:37
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I have a Ruger 22-45. I really like it. Very seldom ever jams, and accuracy is more than acceptable. It has a 4 inch barrel and that makes it easier to carry. I have shot many a sharptail grouse with it during elk season. And like you said the price is right on ammo. Mine works just fine on the $9.00 for 550 rounds stuff from Wal mart.
Wing master
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Posted By: dakotasin
Date Posted: 17 July 2005 at 09:14
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i have yet to hear anything positive about the sig mosquito, which pains me because i like sig as much as i like remington.
the 22-45 is an option, though i absolutely hated the way it felt in my hand - didn't feel like a 1911 to me... just felt chintzy.
other options.... the browning buckmark and beretta neos have developed good reputations. if i were in the market, i'd get serious about the browning...
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Posted By: saddlesore
Date Posted: 17 July 2005 at 12:57
Handgun shooting is a might more difficult than rifle,and the 1911 size frame and semi is more difficult to learn. You are wise to get a 22. Best one out there, revolver wise, is the S&W K-22 . Use to be called the Model 17 if I remember good enough. Get some training from a certified handgun instructor. You will be money ahead in the long run.
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Posted By: Rayfromalaska
Date Posted: 10 September 2005 at 20:06
Well, Ruger makes a .22LR pistol that has a fluted target barrel. It's made
of stainless steel, but it's kind of expensive.
If you are having problems with accuracy, try a pistol with a good barrel
(regardless of brand), but by all means try one with a red dot sight.
Adjust the sight to whatever distance you are planing to shoot, and you
will be amazed of it's accuracy.
I am looking for a cheaper than Ruger but good .22LR pistol that is drilled
and tapped to accept electronic sights such as a green or red dot. I have a
very accurate pellet pistol that is sold by Crossman, but made by Walter.
This pistol comes with a red dot sight, and it's very accurate. I killed a
couple of grouse with it this week, but would like a .22LR pistol I can load
with subsonic ammo to keep the noise down, and one I can shoot to
perhaps 20 yards. The birds wise-up and keep a distance from me, so it's
very hard to sneak on them close enough for the pellet pistol I have.
Some of the Ruger pistols are not drilled and tapped for electronic sights,
however.
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Posted By: Tikkabuck
Date Posted: 10 September 2005 at 21:31
Haven't heard anyone mention a Berretta yet ,the U-22 is a bit on the weird side but comfortable and very accurite. I really like the Cheetah,then there's the Bobcat but it's more of a hide out gun. Have you tried a Sig Trailside?
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Posted By: dakotasin
Date Posted: 11 September 2005 at 03:06
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tikka... if you haven't heard anyone mention beretta it is because you have selective hearing! 
i did mention beretta neos... still, i think browning makes the better pistol, though the neos can be had for less money, which probably makes beretta the better value...
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Posted By: CB900F
Date Posted: 11 September 2005 at 03:43
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Fella's;
I've heard of the NEOS, but haven't shot one. Most of what I did hear was shortly after the release & was negative. The concerns centered around lack of accuracy & jamming.
I'd presume that from Dakota's comment, that things have changed. Where would updated info be available? Anybody here have first-hand info?
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Posted By: Rayfromalaska
Date Posted: 11 September 2005 at 12:13
Tikkabuck wrote:
<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"
color=#660000 size=2> Haven't heard anyone mention a Berretta yet
,the U-22 is a bit on the weird side but comfortable and very accurite. I
really like the Cheetah,then there's the Bobcat but it's more of a hide out
gun. Have you tried a Sig Trailside? |
I did look at a Baretta U22 this week. It's ugly as hell, but not expensive
when compared to Ruger pistols. The one a saw had a rail or mounting
base along the top. I am seriously thinking about this pistol, since I can
always keep it out of view from my hunting partners (I don't want them to
see how ugly it is), and pull it out of the pack just when hunting birds.
Anybody here has a Baretta U22? If so, how accurate is it?
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Posted By: Tikkabuck
Date Posted: 11 September 2005 at 12:46
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Yep they are uoogly for sure and nice colors. Guy had one at the range no problems but uoogly. DK my wife says that too,you and her in kahoots.


Here's my pick.


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Posted By: Rayfromalaska
Date Posted: 11 September 2005 at 17:19
Tikkabuck: Your pick is the U22? Hopefully it does not shoot as bad as it
looks. I will probably buy one like yours, since i don't need anything fancy
and expensive.
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Posted By: dakotasin
Date Posted: 11 September 2005 at 17:36
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i think he was referring to the peter (beretta).
tikka - its ok... my wife says i'm just deaf unless the words 'gun, deer, hunting, scope' are mentioned.
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Posted By: Tikkabuck
Date Posted: 11 September 2005 at 18:59
The bottom 2 Ray. LOL I just put the U22 up to show NH.
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Posted By: waksupi
Date Posted: 12 September 2005 at 02:40
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I have a Ruger 22/45. I don't really care for the polymer grip, and it doesn't feel like a 1911 to me. But it does shoot. I have a Red Dot on mine, and it is easy to keep it on my gong at 100 yards from a rest.
I do agree about the training. Sign up for a CCW, or some similar class. I took combat pistol training from an old FBI instructor. He said the biggest problem with trying to teach men to shoot, is that all men THINK they know how to shoot a pistol, so fight against the instruction. He said he can take a woman with no experience, and have her outshooting a man in a weeks time. I saw this happen.
When I took the training, I had shot probably a hundred thousand rounds through pistols over the years, and had taken a fair amount of game. After going through the training course, my acuracy and technique was very much improved. I got further training from the local police department instructors. And if I find anyone else who is a real gunslinger, I will listen to what they have to say, also.
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Posted By: Rayfromalaska
Date Posted: 13 September 2005 at 08:15
Tikkabuck wrote:
The bottom 2 Ray. LOL I just put the U22 up to
show NH. |
I have a little Baretta in .25 caliber. It looks somewhat similar to the one
you posted above, except that it has a tip-up barrel. The tip-up barrel is
one of my favorite feature of some Baretta pistols, since you can load the
chamber and fire that round without using the slide to load the chamber.
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Posted By: NH_Hunter
Date Posted: 13 September 2005 at 13:49
That Beretta U22 Neos is a pretty nifty gun. I might have to attempt
getting one. It will probably get shot down, but it is worth a try
right?
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Posted By: Rayfromalaska
Date Posted: 15 September 2005 at 18:22
NH_Hunter wrote:
That Beretta U22 Neos is a pretty nifty gun. I might
have to attempt
getting one. It will probably get shot down, but it is worth a try
right?
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Well, the price for it is just right. If it shoots well, thatīs all that matters.
I ended-up buying a S&W .22A-1, which is the regular model. The .22A-S
(Sports, I guess) is more expensive and looks a little different. However,
my son already has a .22A-1, so I already knew that it shot very well. I
paid a little over $200.00 for a new .22A-1, and installed a .22mm Truglo
Red-Dot sight. Took it afield a day or two ago, and it was extremely easy
to shoot a couple of grouse with it ( I didn't want more than two). The
grouse didn't allow me to get close, but they were easy picking at 20
yards or so. The pistol is very accurate, and the sight works great.
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Posted By: Kingpin
Date Posted: 18 September 2005 at 05:55
Ray, I want to ask you something that is slightly off topic. I work with a lady, who is in the Navy and, by coincidence, from Alaska. I posed a question to her as to what handgun you locals carry when venturing into the woods. Her answer was exactly what I was thinking, when she said, a .357. I asked her about larger revolvers and she said that some carry them, but that they are quite heavy when carrying other things that one may need. What is your opinion, as mine is a .357 as is hers. Just a little off topic as you can see............................Kingpin
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Posted By: North Logan
Date Posted: 27 September 2005 at 07:14
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Kingpin wrote:
Ray, I want to ask you something that is slightly off topic. I work with a lady, who is in the Navy and, by coincidence, from Alaska. I posed a question to her as to what handgun you locals carry when venturing into the woods. Her answer was exactly what I was thinking, when she said, a .357. I asked her about larger revolvers and she said that some carry them, but that they are quite heavy when carrying other things that one may need. What is your opinion, as mine is a .357 as is hers. Just a little off topic as you can see............................Kingpin |
Those that live in the 'North' & carry handguns for 'bear' protection also recommend you file the front site down flush. That way it doesn't hurt as much when.... [edit]... you can guess the rest... 

Regards, Marcus.

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Posted By: North Logan
Date Posted: 27 September 2005 at 07:21
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Anyway... back on topic... I've been toying with the idea of getting a target type .22 pistol for 'plinking'... been really considering a Ruger 22/45 since the grip angle patterned after the 1911. I do have a .22 Conversion Unit that I have already dedicated to a 1911 frame that goes to the range with me on nearly every trip. Guess I'd have to say for me it would either be a Ruger 22/45 5 1/2'" or a Mk II 5 1/2" bull barrel. That unless I could find a 'deal' on a S&W Model 41 or an older High Standard .22 target pistol.
I do have a little Beretta Model 71 .22 lr that is also a lot of fun to shoot but is not really a 'target' pistol...

Regards, Marcus.

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Posted By: Wing master
Date Posted: 27 September 2005 at 16:51
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What do you think about High Standard? I have shot a few and kinda like them. Course, I dont mind buying a used gun.
Wing master
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Posted By: Gunrunner
Date Posted: 28 September 2005 at 04:39
Wing, I've got a High Standard HD Military made in '49. Bought it a few years ago and it's been accurate as all heck. The only problem I have with it is one round in ten seems to jam. I wonder if a newer HS magazine would work in the older gun.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 28 September 2005 at 06:52
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I've got HS Military version with target sights and a bull barrel. bought it new in 1967. Still a great shooter.
Gunrunner, I got two clips with mine. I used one clip for years and after 20 years had the same trouble with it stovepiping. I found that a slight pressure on the front edge of the magazine lips (tenderly) making them bend tight fixes it in 2 seconds. Just push it against a soft pine board, it will not even scratch the bluing. That fix seems to have fixed it for the last 18 years. Good luck with yours.
BEAR
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Posted By: Vern Humphrey
Date Posted: 07 October 2005 at 09:03
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Do what I do -- visit your local pawn shop and make friends with the owner. Ask him in a postive way, "You charge $10 to handle an out-of-state transfer, right?"
Then find the pistol you want on the internet -- http://www.gunsamerica.com - www.gunsamerica.com is a good source.
I have a Colt Officers Model Target (top-of-the-line target revolver in the 1930s), a Colt Service Ace conversion kit for my M1911s, and a lot of other guns bought used and cheap that way.
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Posted By: dfletcher
Date Posted: 21 December 2005 at 15:04
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In semi auto I like the older High Standards. I have a Supermatic Tournament with a 7 1/4" & 5.5" bbls and they are wonderful to shoot. If you have basic gunsmithing ability adding barrels is pretty easy.
Mitchells is manufacturing their version of the High Standards but I've heard mixed reviews regarding acuracy & reliability
For revolver I think it's hard to beat an S & W 17, 6" bbl or Colt Diamondback 6"bbl. The Colt is a bit scarce & barrel heavy, but I like the sight picture with a squared off front sight.
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