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Topic: Another yote that hates .223`s
Posted By: Timberghozt
Subject: Another yote that hates .223`s
Date Posted: 26 April 2004 at 14:05

Hey fellas, went calling this evening to a new place right up the road from my house.First call, less than 5 minutes this young male come straight to me.I shot him at about 30 feet.He come in at a lope to a Haydels Baby jackrabbit call.Thats my son Cody holding my Weatherby .223 Rem.This was the first time I`ve taken him calling witj me and I beleive he is hooked,lol....Gene




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Posted By: CB900F
Date Posted: 26 April 2004 at 14:08

Timberghozt;

The kid is smiling & you look like you just sat on the tailgate latch!

 900F



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Posted By: Timberghozt
Date Posted: 26 April 2004 at 14:11

Har ,Har,Har CB.Never said I was to photogenic,lol...Gene Should have uploaded a better pic.

Heres one. OOPS,WRONG PICS lol



Posted By: klallen
Date Posted: 26 April 2004 at 15:17

Hey TIMBERGHOZT  >>  I'm sure it's been printed and I've probably seen it too, but just remind me, where ya hunting?

Also, larger pictures of the chics would be appreciated, if ya could. 

 

Nice calling !!!  Later.  >>  klallen



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Posted By: Tikkabuck
Date Posted: 26 April 2004 at 18:31
  Me thinks I might need a .223. Great picture of the kid very cool to start them early. Hey CB I think maybe he got a breath of yote poop.

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Posted By: macca
Date Posted: 26 April 2004 at 19:39

Hey Timberghozt nice pic.What projectiles are you running in the 223?

Macca



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Posted By: Timberghozt
Date Posted: 27 April 2004 at 00:35

Klallen, right smack dab in the middle of Texas.We are overrun with yotes.It has gotten so bad I`ve read articles in the Austin American Statesman about yotes in the city stealing house cats and lap dogs out of peoples yard.I will try to blow up the better pics for ya,lol.

Macca, I shoot Hornady 40 gr V max moly coated in my .223.This is factory ammo as I do not load for .223 Rem.Hornady sells it under the name of Varmint EXP and claims a muzzle velocity of 3800fps.It is rather expensive at my price of $19.00 a box of 25 cartridges.

I plan on letting my boy use my 7x57 this year to deer hunt with me.He`s a pretty decent shot with his Glenfield 22lr.I think we`ve got a future yote popper in the making,lol.Tikka,maybe so on the poop.Little booger sure did wreak....Gene



Posted By: Orion
Date Posted: 27 April 2004 at 02:25

  Back when I was living in Red Oak, Ft. Worth put out a bounty on coyotes. Too many were getting into folks yards in the 'burbs and have a great snack on their pets. At the time, the state hunters were overloaded with requests to thin them out from many, many parts of the state.

  Ft. Worth received permission to hire folks, not too many, and let them hunt in the outer areas in the infiltration routes. In the housing areas themselves, we used bows and stands. Very unusual feeling to be in a tower blind and watch a little boy riding down the street on his bike.



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Posted By: Timberghozt
Date Posted: 27 April 2004 at 10:57
I hear ya Orion.Used to be a bounty on them here.I think it was like 25 dollars a kill, carcus taken to the Belton feed store to collect your money.I suppose the ranchers and farmers chipped in to pay the bounty money on them.They no longer pay a bounty and there are very few serious varmint hunters here for some odd reason.Last nights kill earned me another place to hunt though.The property owner told the neighboring rancher about what I did last night and the guy wants me to come call on his place.I think I am gonna sneak off about 7: 00 Tonight, get me a good hide and try this place.Sign is everywhere, so I`ll give yall a hollar tonight if I pop one....Gene


Posted By: Timberghozt
Date Posted: 26 September 2004 at 08:46

Fellas , I drilled me another one last night with my 223 Rem.I couldnt get on the site last night to post pics but figure I will today.

This yote made me work for it.The wind kept shifting on me and I moved three times to get a better spot to work because of the wind.On my third spot I called twice and he come out of nowhere on my right side.He was looking at me and my hide when I put a 40 gr VMAX straight through his neck into his spine.He folded up hard.I am derned sure impressed with Hornady`s little 40 grain bullet.I wish I wouldv`e had this one on tape.At 65 yards it was a devastating hit.Heres a pic of a good male yote courtesy of my Weatherby VanGuard 223 Rem.



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Posted By: Timberghozt
Date Posted: 27 September 2004 at 11:18

Can anybody see this pic clearly?It looked good on my computer after I downloaded it from the digcam, after I loaded it ito the site it is  blurry as crap???Anybody,Tash...help

Gene



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Posted By: klallen
Date Posted: 27 September 2004 at 13:00

Nice one.

Pic don't look to bad, TIMBER.  Just looks dark cause of night time to me.

I see your still using the 40 gr. V-Max in your .223?  My Savage .223 has a 1:9 twist so I've been tinkering with the 75 gr. A-Max.  Great results, accuracy wise at 100 yds.  Got my loads ready to back up to 300 and then see what they can do way out past that.  This A-Max has kinda changed my thinking on reasonable ranges for the .223.  If you're rifles got the right twist, it might be something to look into, if you're looking to extend ranges.  Not sure what ranges your hunting requires.  If you're happy, disregard the last paragraph as babble from a goon in MT    .  Later.  >>  klallen 



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Posted By: Timberghozt
Date Posted: 27 September 2004 at 14:09
Hey Klallen.Yep I am still shooting the 40 gr  VMax.I`ve never tried any of the AMax but I`d like to.I think my twist rate is 1 in 14 .I dont know if I could stabilize a real heavy bullet.I may be wrong on the twist.I did the cleaning rod down the tube and mark it at one full turn.It came out real close to 14.I do have access to places where my shots can surpass 300 yards .I looked at some Blackhills ammo, 55 gr at the gunshop where I bought the son`s dies at.It was pretty high so I think I am gonna break down and buy me a set of dies.I still have a bunch of BLC2 left over from last years load trials in my 308 to put to good use.I swore I`d never buy dies for a 223 Rem but I am set on it now.I love Hornady`s  factory ammunition but I dont like paying 19 bucks a box for it.For factory ammo I definately can`t complain.It is accurate enough to shoot golfballs with at a 100 yards with fairly easy.What do you think on that twist my rifle has as to how heavy a bullet I can stabilize?Thanks for the input...Gene

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Posted By: klallen
Date Posted: 27 September 2004 at 14:46

If your twist is 1:14, the 75's would be out.  When I bought my bullets, I got some 50 gr. V-Max's as kind of a middle-of-the-road back up bullet, just in case the 75's didn't pan out.  Somewhere close to that 50 gr. bullet weight would probably be the upper end of stabalization in that twist.  I don't know though.  Lately, we've seen some rather suprising things in certain cartridges being tested with bullets stabalizing in twists that they should not.?.?.?.?  I see the 50 V-Max has a BC of .242, 52 A-Max a bit better at .247 as opposed to .200 for the 40 gr. V-Max, but not sure if there would be a noticeable difference with the velocity loss you'd experience.  Be one of those things you'd have to tinker with, I suppose.  I do know at close range, some of the lighter bullets going Mach5 give some real dramatic kills on varmint.  Specially if ya like the red-mist effect.  Maybe with a 1:14 twist, that's the intended purpose WBY had in mind with the Vanguard     ...     light bullets going fast    .  Either way, it sure sounds like it's getting the job done for ya    .  Later.  >>  klallen



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Posted By: macca
Date Posted: 27 September 2004 at 21:44

Klallen,Timber,re the stabilising in the 1:9.I get superb groups with mine from 50 to 75 grains.I can't get over how well the 52 grain matches shoot out of it.

Nice dog by the way Timber.

Macca



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Posted By: The_Mountaineer
Date Posted: 28 September 2004 at 02:29

Gene,

Them's nice yotes.  Love to go chasing them but they're tough to see with any regularity in my parts.  Though you can rest assured they're out there.  Great service you're providing them farmers and a blast to boot I'm sure.

I've been hankering over a 223 for some time for a walking varmint rifle.  Even considered ridding myself of my 700 VLS in 22-250 for one but I don't think I'll go that far just yet .

As for the Hornady's you're using, I've only started loading some of Hornady's stuff here in the past few years and thus far have been impressed with accuracy and performance.  In fact there's probably more Hornady boxes in my bullet cabinet than anything right now! 

Good shooting there!



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Posted By: Timberghozt
Date Posted: 28 September 2004 at 12:53

Thanks on the yote Macca .I really am a fan of the more hyper .224`s such as the legendary Swift and the 22-250.Like Klallen says, the fast little .224 bullets wreak havoc on small critters.I know I take a cut on velocity versus some of the cartridges with more case capacity, but derned if a 223 Rem isn`t fun to shoot.

Hey Brad, thanks.I wouldn`t swap a 22-250 for a 223 Rem.I like the veloxity of the 22-250.I almost bought one the day I purchased this Weatherby.They had a bigger price tag on the Ruger M77 22-250 than I had  cash in my wallet for.Initially I was turned off by the black synthetic stock  but I figure it is a hunting rifle anyways.Its only purpose is to hunt with so a pretty wood stock to scratch up is no matter anyways.I do like Hornady bullets.I`ll admit I have more boxes of Sierra bullets on my loading bench than Hornady,Nosler and Speer.The 165 grain .30 Hornady SST`s in particular.I load them for my 300 Win mag and I`m gonna start loading them for 308 Win too.You are right , it is a blast to do.If you ever make it out this way let me know.We`ll hookup and see if we cant give your 22-250 a workout on a yote..

Gene



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Posted By: Gunrunner
Date Posted: 29 September 2004 at 05:06
Glad to see you're keepin' those yotes in check Timber.  Wish you could send a couple over my way.   I like the 223 a lot too, but for a dramatic kill the 22-250 is hard to beat.  After deer season I'll be doing a lot more testing of the vmax and sierra gamekings in my 223.  Finally got a hold of some benchmark powder and plan on seeing how good it is. 

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Posted By: Timberghozt
Date Posted: 29 September 2004 at 12:06

Hey GR.I wish I could transport some your way..lol

Coyotes here are very abundant.I dont complain though.Between coyotes and feral hogs they keep my hunting skills tweaked during the off season times.Plus they are just fun to hunt.Let me know what comes of your VMax load development,Sierra too.I am gonna buy me some dies from Midway for mine pretty soon and tinker with loading the VMax to start with.I might dabble with the 52 gr AMax too and see what happens.I am going tonight to a place that has yielded me a few yotes in the past.I havent hunted it in a while and figure it might produce a dog..We`ll see what happens.Talk at ya later..

Gene



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Posted By: Timberghozt
Date Posted: 29 September 2004 at 14:38

No luck tonight.Very little wind and it was in my favor, good hide overlooking thick growth  with a draw in the middle.I saw a nice 8 point with a scrubby salad bowl  rack 6 point and tiny 6 point showed himself earlier in the evening.It wasn`t a total loss getting to see the 8 point about 80 yards away and he never detected me.

Some of you guys I know are heavy into predator hunting up north.I would like to hear some of you guys tactics.I use a cedar scent  and fox piss as cover scents.What do you guys use up in the north country.Most of my shots occur inside 300 yards with the majority inside 100 yards.How do you guys work in the wide open country?Just curious and any input is appreciated.I have started trying to teach a 17 year old kid who lives down the road how to call.He told me he has been hunting 20 times or more calling and has never even seen a yote.I am trying to teach him patience and to stay off his call so much.He thought he should call continuously because the guy who sold him the call at the sporting goods store was a "master" and told him to.I took him with me two weeks ago and I see we are gonna have to work on his ability to sit still and be quiet.He fidgets like a kid in a candy store and cant be still for 5 minutes..Look forward to some of you other fellas tactics and such....Gene



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Posted By: Bojon
Date Posted: 01 October 2004 at 13:10

Hello Gene

personal opinion .....that's a great picture... father and son doing things together .....

congratulations

Bojon



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Posted By: Timberghozt
Date Posted: 01 October 2004 at 14:11

Thanks Bojon..He is a good kid.I have finally gotten him to where he would rather grab his stuff and go hunting than play his Play Station.He is doing good, has some trouble with noise discipline but overall for a 11 year old kid I cant complain.He`s always loved to fish as we live on a river/creek but it`s taken a while with hunting.

Them derned Play station things are the worst things ever invented for kids.They should be outlawed.Maybe soon his will break and he`ll spend more time in the woods..Good to see ya Bojon.

Gene



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Posted By: Gunrunner
Date Posted: 02 October 2004 at 05:03

Timber, you'r right about those dang playstations being addictive.  Our friends 6 year old has one and seems like he never gets off the thing.

And that 17 year old will need to learn not to blow that call so much.  Just a bit to get the yote's attention and make em curious.

Wish I could give you some load data for the 223, but...   Went to the range yesterday with 30 rounds of freshly loaded vmax and sierra, and none of the cases would fit the rifles chamber.  I tried each one, but the bolt handle would not turn down to close the bolt.  When I got home I checked my resizing die in the press.  It left just a smidge clearance between the shellholder.  Turned it down and resized a couple of the primed cases, and they fit the rifle easily.  Dang, now I've got to resize all 200 cases and take apart the 30 loaded rounds.    At least I was just at the range, and not out hunting.  And my 308 was working very good, so it wasn't a total loss. 

I hope another yote shows himself to ya one of these evenings.  Maybe Cody will take a shot at it.    



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Posted By: Timberghozt
Date Posted: 02 October 2004 at 05:59

That is tough luck on them 223 rounds GR.I planned to buy them dies this week but procrastinated as usual.There is a gunshow next weekend in Belton,it`ll give me a good reason to go.I hope the kid will get him one.I haven`t taken him the last two times I went calling as he was busy with some of his stuff with friends.I`d sure like to see him dust one with his .243 Win

I need to get me a Hornady loading manual.Hornady used to give load info out on the web.I don`t know if they still do or not.I have a Hodgdon manual that is excellent and a Sierra manual which is good but a Hornady manual is needed.

As far as using a .223 Rem on coyotes.I do not deal in any kind of pelt trade but here is a pic from last year what it looks like when a yote is hit with a .308 Win.



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Posted By: 6MMGhozt
Date Posted: 17 October 2004 at 13:30
nice picture dad,to dark to see anything but his head and his bellyClap



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