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Topic: Texas chili
Posted By: Wing master
Subject: Texas chili
Date Posted: 27 January 2004 at 07:25

Does anyone have a good Texas chili recipe? Remember Texas chili dosent have beans. I remember when I lived in Texas a friend made chili that was meat and seasonings with grease floating on top. it was real thick and had very little water (if any). Had to be the best chili I ever had.

Thanks

Wing master



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Posted By: TasunkaWitko
Date Posted: 27 January 2004 at 07:52

Ted's

Original !

Texas Road-Kill Chili

Copyright (c) 1992, Ted Rockwell

Ingredients:

4 lbs. fresh road-kill         			1 tsp. black pepper
2 beers or 750ml zinfindel			1-3 tsps. oregano
2 Jalapeno peppers (chopped)			1 tbsp. cumin powder
2-4 tbsps. chili powder				1 tbsp. salt
4 cloves crushed garlic				1 16 oz. can Cantadina tomato sauce
1 tbsp. finely chopped green onions		2 tbsps. chopped bell pepper

(This is REAL Chili - - So, No... There Ain't No Beans !)

Grind up 4 pounds of fresh road-kill. (Note: sometimes, due to the condition of the road-kill, grinding up may not be necessary). Just about anything is acceptable (armadillo, rabbit, possum, chicken, unidentified...), but stay away from skunks since their odoriferousnous may have a negative effect on the final result. If you live in an area where there's not much highway traffic, or where urbanization has scared off all the critters and your neighbors keep their pets indoors, then you can use (all) the following meat as a substitute:

				2 lbs. ground beef (chili grind)
				1 lb. venison (chili grind) .. pork is ok
				1 lb. ground Italian sausage
				12 oz. Mexican chorrizo sausage

Mix all the meat in a large kettle. If using the "substitute" ingredients above, then cut open the chorrizo wrapping and squeeze out the contents into the mixture of the 4 lbs. of other meats. Brown the meat, stirring occasionally to mix well. Once the meat has browned, add the tomato sauce, beer (or wine) and all of the seasonings. It is a good idea at this early juncture to use only half of the chili pepper and oregano and reserve the rest until later so that you can season to your taste.


Cook over low-medium heat for 30 minutes, stirring occasionally to prevent sticking, then reduce heat to low and cover. Cook covered for 1 hour, stirring from time to time. Sample for taste, increase seasoning as desired, and cook on low for another hour, stirring occasionally.


Sample again and add additional cumin, chili pepper, oregano, Jalapenos or critters to suit your taste; turn off heat and place in the refrigerator over night. Reheat on the following day and serve. For an especially tasty presentation, serve up in bowls and sprinkle the top with chopped white onions and shredded Monterrey Jack and cheddar cheeses. Feeds 6 to 8. Enjoy!



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TasunkaWitko - Chinook, Montana

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Posted By: TasunkaWitko
Date Posted: 27 January 2004 at 07:54

TexasFireChili Recipes

torch

One Alarm Chili

Ingredients

1 package of 2-alarm chili (Wick Fowler's)

2 lbs. chili meat or coarse ground meat

1-8oz. can tomato sauce

2-8oz. cans water

Yield: 1 1/2 quarts or six-8oz. servings

Step 1.Sear 2 lbs. course ground or diced meat (chuck,round,stew meat,venison,chicken,or meat of your choice) in large skillet or dutch oven. Drain off fat.

Step 2.Add one 8-oz. can tomato cauce and two cans water

Step 3.Stir in all ingredients except packet labeled "red pepper" and "masa"

Step 4.For one alarm chili, stir in half of red pepper.

Step 5.Cover skillet or dutch oven and simmer for 30 minutes (longer for a spicer flavor) or until meat is tender.Stir occasionally

Step 6.Stir masa flour into 1/4 cup warm water to make a thick, buy flowable mixture.

Step 7.Add masa mixture to chili. Simmer another 15 to 20 minutes. If desired, add 15 oz. can of beans and or tomatoes (diced) drained.

torchtorch

Two Alarm Chili

Follow directions above but add the whole packet of "red pepper"

torchtorchtorch

Three Alarm Chili

Follow dircetions above , and if you want that liquid fire effect add fresh chili peppers diced when you are in step 5 above ,I pormise it will bring tears to your eyes

For that special touch grate some long horn cheese to sprinkel over the top of chili just before serving



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TasunkaWitko - Chinook, Montana

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Posted By: Muleskinner
Date Posted: 27 January 2004 at 08:15
Beans or no beans.  Who came up with that rule?  Not the mexicans, where the word "chili" comes from.  A chili is a pepper, period.  In mexico, you can order chili con carne (peppers and meat) or chili con frijoles (peppers and beans) or chili con carne y frijoles (peppers and both).  To say that "chili" is only right if without beans is fallacious terminology.

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Mule


Posted By: TasunkaWitko
Date Posted: 27 January 2004 at 08:20

mule -

i'm just guessing here, but perhaps anti-mexican sentiments in the early cattle days of texas led to the lack of beans. either that, or chile is a totally texan food, which is what i always thought. the name of course is mexican (spanish), but who knows......



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TasunkaWitko - Chinook, Montana

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Posted By: Muleskinner
Date Posted: 27 January 2004 at 08:52
Well, you have a point.  Chili as we know it derived from the peppery stew made on cattle drives.  But the "no beans" qualifier is recent, as everything goes into a stew.  It is also possible that beans have always been a staple in-and-of themselves, so you might have a tortilla, a bowl of chili, and some beans too.  Or maybe some cattle baron just thort his cowboys smelled way too bad and made the rule so his wimmin folk wouldn't be offended every time they encountered the hired help.  Anyhoo, I like beans in my chili.  I ain't beholding to no rules on how I make my stew.  Anybody conforming to such a rule must be a liberal, to be so easily regulated here in the land of the free.

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Mule


Posted By: EDip
Date Posted: 27 January 2004 at 08:54

Good Gawd,

Don't feed any of that liquid fire stuff to KP before deer hunting. He'll start a forest fire for sure when he squats and grunts for those deer.



Posted By: TasunkaWitko
Date Posted: 27 January 2004 at 08:54

>>>Or maybe some cattle baron just thort his cowboys smelled way too bad and made the rule so his wimmin folk wouldn't be offended every time they encountered the hired help.<<<



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TasunkaWitko - Chinook, Montana

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Posted By: soggyshooter
Date Posted: 27 January 2004 at 12:16
We make chili both ways. Both is good. When we make beanless chili, we always have a batch of seasoned beans on the side. Ladle in some beans then ladel on some chili. Or don't. Or just have the beans and some tortillas. The wife makes some killer chili with beans. Three different types of beans.


Posted By: TasunkaWitko
Date Posted: 28 January 2004 at 03:23
jeff - is mrs. soggy going to post her famous chili recipe??

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TasunkaWitko - Chinook, Montana

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Posted By: Triggerguard
Date Posted: 28 January 2004 at 16:10
The Wick Fowler's chili mix shown above is actually a pretty good chili. Has more paprika than I like, to give it a pretty red color.
The original Chili Queens of the Southwest, who stayed in business here in San Antonio until the 1930s (health department shut all of them down) served up chili con carne (peppers with meat). That is why traditional Texas chili doesn't have beans in it. The chili was cooked on open fires, in iron pots, and served to patrons in bowls. A Chili Queen might have a couple of wooden tables for patrons to sit at, or she might just have a pot and some bowls. Sanitation was not much of a consideration back then, as bowls were often passed from patron to patron as they emptied.


Anyway, here is an old recipe for Texas chili, pretty simple, no fancy spices. No cumin, no bell peppers, no oregeno, like the chili recipe above. Chili was simple, and cheap. Meat was cheap back then, and spices were expensive. This recipe has been in my family for about thirty years, my mom got it from a neighbor lady whose family has been here for several generations.


              Texas Chili
2 pounds meat (beef, venison, etc. Traditionaly is beef)
4 tablespoons chili powder (can use any brand, original recipe calls for Mexene, but that isn't available anyore. My favorite is Bolner's, a family spice company.)
2 cloves garlic
4 tablespoons flour
4 tablespoons fat
1 tablespoon salt
1 quart hot water
1 large onion, chopped ( I like yellow onion)

Cube your meat, or use ground meat. Cubes give better texture, IMO, or use half ground and half cubed. Grind your garlic cloves. Mix meat, chili powder, garlic, and flour. Set aside. Melt fat in a deep pot, and fry onion until tender. If you are a French chef, you will saute the onion, we just fry. Add the meat mixture, cook about 15 minutes, and add the salt. Gradually pour in the quart of hot water. You can add cold water, but it will slow the cooking time. Simmer about an hour, and check meat for tenderness. Chili is done when meat is tender.

You can leave a pot of this chili on very low heat, and it will slow cook without drying out. Stir it from time to time to keep it from scorching. This chili is even better as a leftover, as the flavors mingle better.

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Posted By: soggyshooter
Date Posted: 29 January 2004 at 11:03

Ron,

    Ok, here's the chili recipie you asked about. It's a simple one but great. We like it anyway. This makes a big batch, but we freeze it up for later on.

6 lb. Coarse ground Beef.

2 TBS Cumin

2 TBS salt or to taste

4 Clove garlic.

1/2 Cup corn meal or corn flour

1 Cup New Mexico chili powder. This makes or breaks the recipie. Don't use the  grocery store stuff. You can but it won't be as good. We get most of our spices from Penzeys Spices or in one of local Mexican groceries.

2 TBS Oregano

2 TBS Cayenne powder.

2 QT Beef broth.

1/2 Cup Water

Brown the beef in oil. Add the rest of the ingrediants EXCEPT the corn meal/flour and water. Simmer 2-3 hrs. Mix water and corn meal. Slowly add this mix to chili after simmering for the 2-3 hrs until it is as thick as you want it. If you are going to add to beans  make it a bit thinner. If you want beanless chili make it thick. Simmer for another 30 min. or so. Serve with beer and tortillas.

Now the beans. Soak at least 3 lbs dry beans over night, untill soft. We do a pound each of black, kidney, and navy beans. Change water a couple of times. When you cook them do it in chicken broth. enough to cover well. add salt to taste, cumin, an onion diced up, a splash of vinegar (to cut sweetness of the beans) but just a little! simmer untill done. You can serve these by themselves with a little hot sauce and tortillas or you can ladle the chili over some for chili and beans.   



Posted By: TasunkaWitko
Date Posted: 29 January 2004 at 11:07


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TasunkaWitko - Chinook, Montana

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Posted By: Orion
Date Posted: 29 January 2004 at 12:17
Triggerguard! I remember reading about the ChiliQueens in the old Dallas Times-Herald eons ago. Betcha if we looked we could find one of the roadside stands still serving it up darn near the same way!!
Anyone ever go to the Chili cookoff in Terlingua?? It's great if you ever get to go. Her's a bit most folks might like. Hope no one's offended.

The Chili Cookoff
Notes from an inexperienced chili taster named Frank:


"Recently I was honored to be selected as an Outstanding
Famous Celebrity in Texas, to be a judge at a chili cook-off
because no one else wanted to do it. Also the original person
called in sick at the last moment and I happened to be
standing there at the judge's table asking directions to the
beer wagon when the call came. I was assured by the other two
judges that the chili wouldn't be all that spicy, and besides
they told me I could have free beer during the tasting, so I
accepted this as being one of those burdens you endure when
you're an internet writer and therefore known and adored by
all."


Here are the scorecards from the event:


* Chili # 1: Mike's Maniac Mobster Monster Chili


JUDGE ONE: A little too heavy on tomato. Amusing kick.
JUDGE TWO: Nice, smooth tomato flavor Very mild. FRANK: Holy
smokes, what is this stuff? You could remove dried paint from
your driveway with it. Took me two beers to put the flames
out. Hope that's the worst one. These people are crazy.


* Chili # 2: Arthur's Afterburner Chili


JUDGE ONE: Smoky (barbecue?) with a hint of pork. Slight
Jalapeno tang. JUDGE TWO: Exciting BBQ flavor, needs more
peppers to be taken seriously. FRANK: Keep this out of reach
of children! I'm not sure what I am supposed to taste
besides pain. I had to wave off two people who wanted to give
me the Heimlich maneuver. Shoved my way to the front of the
beer line. The barmaid looks like a professional wrestler
after a bad night. She was so irritated over my gagging
sounds that the snake tattoo under her eye started to twitch.
She has arms like Popeye and a face like Winston Churchill. I
will NOT pick a fight with her.


* Chili # 3: Fred's Famous Burn Down the Barn Chili


JUDGE ONE: Excellent firehouse chili! Great kick. Needs more
beans. JUDGE TWO: A beanless chili, a bit salty, good use of
red peppers. FRANK: This has got to be a joke. Call the EPA,
I've located a uranium spill. My nose feels like I have been
sneezing Drano. Everyone knows the routine by now and got
out of my way so I could make it to the beer wagon. Barmaid
pounded me on the back; now my backbone is in the front part
of my chest. She said her friends call her "Sally." Probably
behind her back they call her "Forklift."


* Chili # 4: Bubba's Black Magic


JUDGE ONE: Black bean chili with almost no spice.
Disappointing. JUDGE TWO: Hint of lime in the black beans.
Good side dish for fish or other mild foods, not much of a
chili. FRANK: I felt something scraping across my tongue but
was unable to taste it. Sally was standing behind me with
fresh refills so I wouldn't have to dash over to see her.
When she winked at me her snake sort of coiled and uncoiled
... it's kinda cute.


* Chili # 5: Linda's Legal Lip Remover


JUDGE ONE: Meaty, strong chili. Cayenne peppers freshly
ground adding considerable kick. Very impressive. JUDGE TWO:
Chili using shredded beef; could use more tomato. Must admit
the cayenne peppers make a strong statement. FRANK: My ears
are ringing and I can no longer focus my eyes. I belched and
four people in front of me needed paramedics. The contestant
seemed hurt when I told her that her chili had given me brain
damage. Sally saved my tongue by pouring beer directly on it
from a pitcher. Sort of irritates me that one of the other
judges asked me to stop screaming.


* Chili # 6: Vera's Very Vegetarian Variety


JUDGE ONE: Thin yet bold vegetarian variety chili. Good
balance of spice and peppers. JUDGE TWO: The best yet.
Aggressive use of peppers, onions, and garlic. Superb.
FRANK: My intestines are now a straight pipe filled with
gaseous flames. No one seems inclined to stand behind me
except Sally. I asked if she wants to go dancing later.


* Chili # 7: Susan's Screaming Sensation Chili


JUDGE ONE: A mediocre chili with too much reliance on canned
peppers. JUDGE TWO: Ho Hum, tastes as if the chef threw in
canned chili peppers at the last moment. I should note that I
am worried about Judge Number 3, he appears to be in a bit of
distress. FRANK: You could put a hand grenade in my mouth and
pull the pin and I wouldn't feel it. I've lost the sight in
one eye and the world sounds like it is made of rushing
water. My clothes are covered with chili which slid unnoticed
out of my mouth at some point. Good, at autopsy they'll know
what killed me. Go Sally, save yourself before it's too late.
Tell our children I'm sorry I was not there to conceive them.
I've decided to stop breathing, it's too painful and I'm not
getting any oxygen anyway. If I need air I'll just let it in
through the hole in my stomach. Call the X-Files people and
tell them I've found a super nova on my tongue.


* Chili # 8: Helen's Mount Saint Chili


JUDGE ONE: This final entry is a good, balanced chili,
neither mild nor hot. Sorry to see that most of it was lost
when Judge Number 3 fell and pulled the chili pot on top of
himself. JUDGE TWO: A perfect ending, this is a nice blend
chili, safe for all, not too bold but spicy enough to declare
its existence. FRANK: Momma??!!


Posted By: soggyshooter
Date Posted: 30 January 2004 at 11:57

Quick and Dirty Chili.

    No time to make it from scratch? Use one package regular and one package hot Schilling/McCormack seasoning. Add more New Mexico chili powder and a bit of corn flour to thicken.  Ready to eat in less than an hour. Good chili taco filling.



Posted By: Triggerguard
Date Posted: 30 January 2004 at 16:03
McCormick doesn't know s**t about chili or Mexican spices! When I was in the grocery business years back, McCormick introduced a new line of Mexican spices that they were sure would take over the market. They sunk tons of money into promations, advertising, the whole bit. Those damned yankees from Baltimore named their line of spices "Tio Sancho".Well, now, "tio" means uncle. A "sancho" is a cuckold, a lover, a gigilo. Many of the Hispanics I knew laughed their asses off, and didn't buy the products. The old country, really proper Mexicans (Dons and Donas, so to speak) were insulted as Hell, and stopped buying Mccormick products all together. Cost them several million in sales over several years, all because of piss poor market research.
Almost as bad as GM wondering for years why Chevy Novas didn't sell well in Latin America, or anywhere else Spanish was spoken. Would YOU buy a car called the NO GO?

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"...A moral compass needs a butt end.Whatever direction France is pointing-towards collaboration with Nazis, accomodation with communists,...we can go the other way with a quiet conscience"-O'Rourke


Posted By: Muleskinner
Date Posted: 03 February 2004 at 09:28

I agree 'bout McCormick powder.  All the grocery store stuff sucks.  We got a lil' mexican store in town that has what a real chili lover needs.  I think I seen on of them chili queens on a street corner in Vegas onct.  Don't think I'd wanna eat nuthin' made by a chicano queer in hot pants.

I tried Tash's recipe Sunday.  Purdy good, but a lil' tomatoy than I usually make.  Will try Soggy's this weekend.  Hell, what else can a feller do in this weather?



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Mule


Posted By: soggyshooter
Date Posted: 03 February 2004 at 09:43

Triggerguard,

   We tried your chili recipie the other day. Not bad. We used the Hot New Mexico chili powder and coarsely ground chuck roast. Was good in tortillas. With more heat it will be good in tamales. Have to make a batch soon. Will try it out. Added some to beans. Had to add some vinegar and cumin to balance flavor but everyone liked it that way to. 




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