"Mag" postal shoot interest?
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Topic: "Mag" postal shoot interest?
Posted By: RobertMT
Subject: "Mag" postal shoot interest?
Date Posted: 18 March 2011 at 15:52
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Moved from other thread to see if we can get enough interest to proceed. I think we should remember Kingpin started this "as a way to have fun" and burn copious amounts of powder. Here's what we have so far.
Simple as I can make it, open to BSB members only, use whatever type of "mag" rifle, sights and other gear, that you feel is fair. $5 entry fee per target, 50/50 split between BSB and winner of class. BSB share will go to help with site costs. What the two winners, do with their share of the pot, is up to them. Enter as many targets and rifles, as you want to. Mail in time for Judge to receive by 4/30/11, Judge's decision is final. Wing Master has volunteered as judge, PM him for mailing address for entries.
One hundred yd class. Standing, sling allowed, any .257 cal "mag" or larger, five shots for score on this target http://www.tgscom.com/images/sharedimages/GlockFAQ/ibs_1000_250.pdf - http://www.tgscom.com/images/sharedimages/GlockFAQ/ibs_1000_ 250.pdf
Two hundred yd class Off bench, any .257 cal "mag" or larger, five shots for score on this target http://www.tgscom.com/images/sharedimages/GlockFAQ/ibs_1000_200.pdf - http://www.tgscom.com/images/sharedimages/GlockFAQ/ibs_1000_ 200.pdf
The linked targets will print out on 8 1/2" X 11" paper and are PDF file format, everyone should be able to print them, I printed one of each and they printed fine.
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Posted By: RobertMT
Date Posted: 18 March 2011 at 15:56
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So far it's deaddog and me, we need more, I would encourge our younger members to enter too. ------------- Want to stop Drunk Drivers, from Killing Sober Drivers? Ban Sober Drivers from Driving. That's how Gun Control Works. NRA Benefactor Life, GOA Patriot, SAF |
Posted By: Irish Bird Dog
Date Posted: 18 March 2011 at 16:03
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I agree to the "rules" posted by RobertMT here....after the ? below is answered about the placement of the 5 shot group........just for clarification. A ? from rules post...."five shot group, for score on this target"....don't matter where "group" is on target ie bullseye or not....Right? ....could anyone please explain to me how to go about "bribing" the judge.....I really want to have a "fair" shake in this contest!  snow going down fast this past 2 days.....maybe be able to find the range soon...... ------------- Irish Bird Dog NRA Life/Endowment 2nd Amendment Supporter |
Posted By: RobertMT
Date Posted: 18 March 2011 at 16:19
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For score, to me, means for five shots, 50-5x is highest score possible, five shots in X ring, we would not be shooting for best group size, score is the factor. If a tie needed to be broke, group size could be the tie breaking factor. People wanted simple, Bulls-eye scoring is as simple, as I could make it. Edited for clarification. ------------- Want to stop Drunk Drivers, from Killing Sober Drivers? Ban Sober Drivers from Driving. That's how Gun Control Works. NRA Benefactor Life, GOA Patriot, SAF |
Irish Bird Dog wrote:Posted By: Irish Bird Dog
Date Posted: 18 March 2011 at 23:49
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thanks Rmt....just wanted to be sure.......
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Posted By: RobertMT
Date Posted: 19 March 2011 at 03:17
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Sounds like a third to me. ------------- Want to stop Drunk Drivers, from Killing Sober Drivers? Ban Sober Drivers from Driving. That's how Gun Control Works. NRA Benefactor Life, GOA Patriot, SAF |
Posted By: Irish Bird Dog
Date Posted: 19 March 2011 at 14:50
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yup! PLANNING ON IT. WHERE ARE YOU OTHER GUYS....THIS WILL BE A PRETTY SMALL POT! .....now I just gotta dust off the 7mm RemMag...check to see if there is still a "hole" in the bbl and work up a suitable load. Most likely my hunting load but for deer or elk???? Whichever I have the most bullets for. I kin do the 100yds at the house but need to go to cabin for the 200...or across the road to the neighbors land.....darn they don't have a shooting bench.....back to the cabin....126 miles north of here.....  THE BENCH.........@ YARD ZERO  THE 175 YD GONG......MANHOLE COVER.....now to put the target back another 25yds.....  ------------- Irish Bird Dog NRA Life/Endowment 2nd Amendment Supporter |
Posted By: Rockydog
Date Posted: 19 March 2011 at 15:19
The million dollar question is, which small town in NW WI is missing a manhole cover and a can of yellow curb paint?  RD ------------- When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty. Thomas Jefferson |
Posted By: RobertMT
Date Posted: 19 March 2011 at 16:36
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What revolver you use on the gong" 357 reach that or do you go bigger? ------------- Want to stop Drunk Drivers, from Killing Sober Drivers? Ban Sober Drivers from Driving. That's how Gun Control Works. NRA Benefactor Life, GOA Patriot, SAF |
Posted By: deaddog
Date Posted: 19 March 2011 at 16:36
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Call the EX cops...
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Posted By: Irish Bird Dog
Date Posted: 19 March 2011 at 17:12
the BIG gong is primarily a rifle target....anything..from .223 on up to 300WinMag with jacketed bullets and 45-70 w/cast....that thing is "tuff" & hard but some on brittle side...it's cast iron, dust flies when it is hit with the cf rifles & small dents do show.... It can be hit consistantly with a .44Mag Redhawk/scoped off bench and even off hand mostly..........never tried anything smaller....yet..... RD...U is just to danged suspicious of a good 'ol country boy.... The manhole cover is NOT from northern WI town......it migrated over from a northern MN city..musta been a west wind or something....the yellow paint most probably is some sort of "graffiti" art  targets from the cabin porch.......lower left shows a bar...that has 3 swinging disks on it at 50ft from porch, all these close targets are for lead bullets, mostly handguns....& any .22LRs, long or short gun.  close up of swingers @ 25yds and note orange "dot" far behind & under right side x-arm...75yds mini gong. Since this pic was taken there has been a bowling ball hung between pole and each of the brake plates....the bballs absorb lots of hits.  ------------- Irish Bird Dog NRA Life/Endowment 2nd Amendment Supporter |
Posted By: Kingpin
Date Posted: 20 March 2011 at 11:24
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I'm in, I just have to see how many times. I like the 5X 50 rule, but I still think that a group size thing should be included, meaning a 5 shot group, anywhere on the target, but it's up to you and I'll play by those rules......................Kingpin ------------- There are times when a normal man must, spit in his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. |
Posted By: RobertMT
Date Posted: 20 March 2011 at 20:39
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Everyone wanted simple, I tried for simple, a 49-4x score (four in the xring one in the 9 ring) would be beat by a 50-0x score (five in the ten ring but none in the x ring) and so on and so forth. If we had two top scores, of say 48-4x score then group size would break the tie. It's been a long time, but it seems like shooting for score and group size are two different classifications to me. Wouldn't in a round of a 1K match, a 200-20x perfect score, beat a 2" group in the 6 ring (120-0x score). The 2" group could be a seperate winner in the group size classification of shoot. ------------- Want to stop Drunk Drivers, from Killing Sober Drivers? Ban Sober Drivers from Driving. That's how Gun Control Works. NRA Benefactor Life, GOA Patriot, SAF |
Posted By: RobertMT
Date Posted: 21 March 2011 at 09:28
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It's looks like we have RaySendero on board, by my count that makes five. Remember it's open to any "mag" from the .257, to as big as you got, as long as it's considered a "mag". If someone wanted to use a 50 BMG, I think we could sneek that in under "mag" class rule. ------------- Want to stop Drunk Drivers, from Killing Sober Drivers? Ban Sober Drivers from Driving. That's how Gun Control Works. NRA Benefactor Life, GOA Patriot, SAF |
Posted By: d4570
Date Posted: 21 March 2011 at 10:25
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Hopped up 45/70???? ------------- Remember: Four boxes keep us free ,the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, AND the cartridge box |
Posted By: Kingpin
Date Posted: 21 March 2011 at 12:10
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Robert, on the outside chance that I win, I don't want the prize, rather, it be donated to the Save the Rhino people. They need bullets bad..................................Kingpin ------------- There are times when a normal man must, spit in his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. |
Posted By: BobR
Date Posted: 21 March 2011 at 12:32
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If I can get the new gun up and running soon enough, including working up a load, I would love to participate. How long will this run? bob
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Posted By: RobertMT
Date Posted: 21 March 2011 at 19:29
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The two winner's, can do whatever they want, with their share of pot. ------------- Want to stop Drunk Drivers, from Killing Sober Drivers? Ban Sober Drivers from Driving. That's how Gun Control Works. NRA Benefactor Life, GOA Patriot, SAF |
Posted By: RobertMT
Date Posted: 21 March 2011 at 19:44
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Sorry, you can't use your "varmint" rifle. If enough want to let you in, I'm not opposed, but how far do we want to open it up?
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Posted By: RobertMT
Date Posted: 24 March 2011 at 05:45
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Went out to check on range today, still too much snow. I went to another spot, twelve miles up, "unofficial" range, I didn't "quite" have to put chains on to get in and out. I didn't get the 300 out, but I emptied some AR brass and tried out the new 10/22. I was pleasantly surprised on the AR. I'm going to have to find some ammo the 10/22 likes though, it wouldn't do better than 2" groups at 100yds. Range should be usable by 4/1, so it looks like lots of time left. ------------- Want to stop Drunk Drivers, from Killing Sober Drivers? Ban Sober Drivers from Driving. That's how Gun Control Works. NRA Benefactor Life, GOA Patriot, SAF |
Posted By: Kingpin
Date Posted: 28 March 2011 at 10:40
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I have been perusing this thread for a while, with the following observations: 1. Though initially I wanted to shoot it out with other .300 WinMags, I was not aware that there weren't that many here. 2. We need to decide on what will be allowed and what won't. 3. We need a cut off date. 4. We need to settle on a target and the source of it so we can all be on the same "sheet of music." 5. How many shots are allowed per target? 6. ALL those interested, just follow this post with the number 3, since I don't want to risk damage to your trigger finger by typing a post.
I'll start, 3...................................................Kingpin ------------- There are times when a normal man must, spit in his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. |
Posted By: Irish Bird Dog
Date Posted: 28 March 2011 at 11:42
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I thought RobertMT had that worked out????????????
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Posted By: Kingpin
Date Posted: 28 March 2011 at 13:05
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3 ------------- There are times when a normal man must, spit in his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. |
Posted By: RobertMT
Date Posted: 28 March 2011 at 13:24
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3 From 1st post in this thread. "Simple as I can make it, open to BSB members only, use whatever type of "mag" rifle, sights and other gear, that you feel is fair. $5 entry fee per target, 50/50 split between BSB and winner of class. BSB share will go to help with site costs. What the two winners, do with their share of the pot, is up to them. Enter as many targets and rifles, as you want to. Mail in time for Judge to receive by 4/30/11, Judge's decision is final. Wing Master has volunteered as judge, PM him for mailing address for entries.
One hundred yd class. Standing, sling allowed, any .257 cal "mag" or larger, five shots for score on this target, 50-5X is perfect score, ties broken by group size. http://www.tgscom.com/images/sharedimages/GlockFAQ/ibs_1000_250.pdf - http://www.tgscom.com/images/sharedimages/GlockFAQ/ibs_1000_ 250.pdf
Two hundred yd class Off bench, any .257 cal "mag" or larger, five shots for score on this target, 50-5X is perfect score, ties broken by group size. http://www.tgscom.com/images/sharedimages/GlockFAQ/ibs_1000_200.pdf - http://www.tgscom.com/images/sharedimages/GlockFAQ/ibs_1000_ 200.pdf
The linked targets will print out on 8 1/2" X 11" paper and are PDF file format, everyone should be able to print them, I printed one of each and they printed fine. " ------------- Want to stop Drunk Drivers, from Killing Sober Drivers? Ban Sober Drivers from Driving. That's how Gun Control Works. NRA Benefactor Life, GOA Patriot, SAF |
Posted By: RobertMT
Date Posted: 28 March 2011 at 13:27
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Posted By: Kingpin
Date Posted: 28 March 2011 at 13:34
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Revving up the rifles now. I think the two .300 Win Mags, the .30/378, and the .338 Lapua will do nicely. Gentlemen......Put your shooting shoes on (Ladies too if any of them want to play)...............................Kingpin ------------- There are times when a normal man must, spit in his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. |
Posted By: RobertMT
Date Posted: 28 March 2011 at 13:45
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Those would all fit in the "mag" class, you could even shoot your 50 BMG, if you wanted. I say the "hot" version of the 45/70, could be considered a "mag", as it increases horsepower & recoil to "mag" levels. ------------- Want to stop Drunk Drivers, from Killing Sober Drivers? Ban Sober Drivers from Driving. That's how Gun Control Works. NRA Benefactor Life, GOA Patriot, SAF |
Posted By: RobertMT
Date Posted: 28 March 2011 at 13:50
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Right now, I'm going for 257wby, 270wsm, 300win and 338win, so that will either be four or five rifles. I may send in more than one target each or just single target from each. I'll be interested to see how the various "mags" compare. ------------- Want to stop Drunk Drivers, from Killing Sober Drivers? Ban Sober Drivers from Driving. That's how Gun Control Works. NRA Benefactor Life, GOA Patriot, SAF |
Posted By: Wing master
Date Posted: 28 March 2011 at 15:10
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3 Oh yea, I dont have to rest my trigger finger. I have yet to receive the first target. I just hope everyones range is thawed out by the deadline. Wing master ------------- I have always considered myself to be quite the bullshitter, But ocasionally it is nice to sit back and listen to a true professional......So, Carry on. |
Posted By: RobertMT
Date Posted: 29 March 2011 at 11:25
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I just sent off for some dies for the 338, factory ammo was $50 for the cheap stuff. I have some loaded up from last year, for the 257wby and 270wsm, so they're ready to go. Sent in the range renewal check. Threw one 300win, in the stock I got from Kory, I'll load up some rounds for that one, snows a melting, down to a foot or so. Should be able to shake a little rust off next week. It's still 40, too cold for bedding other 300, may have to do it on kitchen table. ------------- Want to stop Drunk Drivers, from Killing Sober Drivers? Ban Sober Drivers from Driving. That's how Gun Control Works. NRA Benefactor Life, GOA Patriot, SAF |
Posted By: Kingpin
Date Posted: 29 March 2011 at 14:21
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Kitchen tables are great. I wore out three of them before I got a diploma. Anyway, I have the rules straight, I have targets, and I have a place to shoot and will next week. I will be pm'ing Wing soon for his address. Katie bar the door! One more thing, I see there are oly 2 of us in this shooting match. C'mon you keyboard commandos, get in on this or we'll talk about you in front of your back..........LOL.....................Kingpin ------------- There are times when a normal man must, spit in his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. |
Posted By: Irish Bird Dog
Date Posted: 29 March 2011 at 15:15
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......3......so just what does this mean, the 3 I mean? ------------- Irish Bird Dog NRA Life/Endowment 2nd Amendment Supporter |
Posted By: RobertMT
Date Posted: 29 March 2011 at 15:37
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I think we have three for sure, three most likely and two if I get load worked up in time. It's still a month left, I think we may get a few more in. ------------- Want to stop Drunk Drivers, from Killing Sober Drivers? Ban Sober Drivers from Driving. That's how Gun Control Works. NRA Benefactor Life, GOA Patriot, SAF |
Posted By: Kingpin
Date Posted: 29 March 2011 at 16:18
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More than that with multiple entries. We'll keep Wing busy for a while..............................Kingpin ------------- There are times when a normal man must, spit in his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. |
Posted By: Muleskinner
Date Posted: 30 March 2011 at 10:06
I propose we allow the .308 Springfield Mag, AKA the 30-06.  Or, how about eliminating the mag requirement and design an '06 only shoot? The 270 Win, 280 Rem, 25-06, and any other '06 based case would qualify? There ought to be plenty of potential shooters with that one. ------------- Mule |
Posted By: Wing master
Date Posted: 30 March 2011 at 15:46
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We might loose our judge if we went with these rules. I am up for it for the next shoot. Wing master ------------- I have always considered myself to be quite the bullshitter, But ocasionally it is nice to sit back and listen to a true professional......So, Carry on. |
Posted By: BobR
Date Posted: 30 March 2011 at 17:36
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If I can get my act together in time I will bring a 308 mag.....Norma mag, that is. bob ------------- Sarcasm......Just one more service I offer! |
Posted By: RobertMT
Date Posted: 30 March 2011 at 20:29
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Kingpin proposed and wanted, a shoot off between 300 win mags only. We couldn't get enough interest, except to open it to other mags, first other 300 mags, then to let in 7mm, then 264 mag. We have opened it up to pretty far already, 257 mag and on up, as long as it's considered a "mag". I would be game for a long action only, shoot later in year, or a "Deer" Rifle shoot, 6mm CF and up shoot later. How about as long as it's case head is .473 it can be shot, that would open it to the most. ------------- Want to stop Drunk Drivers, from Killing Sober Drivers? Ban Sober Drivers from Driving. That's how Gun Control Works. NRA Benefactor Life, GOA Patriot, SAF |
Posted By: deaddog
Date Posted: 31 March 2011 at 00:01
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Three
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Posted By: Irish Bird Dog
Date Posted: 14 April 2011 at 08:12
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Well, I ain't heard no more on this subject lately......can't get to my 200 yd range yet..snow going down tho up there...now the mud is a hinderence ... 100 yd home range......waterlogged! Crick in front yard is a bit HIGH right now with the rapid snow melt last week from the storm several wks ago. /forum/uploads/IrishBirdDog/2011-04-14_141130_DSCF1966.JPG - 2011-04-14_141130_DSCF1966.JPG 3x zoom version.... /forum/uploads/IrishBirdDog/2011-04-14_141200_DSCF1967.JPG - 2011-04-14_141200_DSCF1967.JPG ------------- Irish Bird Dog NRA Life/Endowment 2nd Amendment Supporter |
Posted By: RobertMT
Date Posted: 14 April 2011 at 10:19
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I went tue, tried out the new stock, and a new load 180ab over 75gr R22. The load showed promise and the stock seemed to work ok, however the nut behind the trigger is a little rusty, 45-1X @ 200yds was the only group I shot with it. I think, I'll do a couple of more loads, working up to max and see if it'll tighten up a little, it's far better than old stock though. At 9 power, that x is kinda small, I seem to remember it being bigger last fall ------------- Want to stop Drunk Drivers, from Killing Sober Drivers? Ban Sober Drivers from Driving. That's how Gun Control Works. NRA Benefactor Life, GOA Patriot, SAF |
Posted By: Kingpin
Date Posted: 14 April 2011 at 15:38
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I am still needing a chance to get on the range at work. As it turns out, work is interferring with my screw around time while I am there...............................Kingpin ------------- There are times when a normal man must, spit in his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. |
Posted By: Wing master
Date Posted: 21 April 2011 at 15:25
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OK guys, I have sent my address to two people and one more allready has it. I still havn't received any targets yet. I will have to look back and see when the deadline is, but it's getting close. Get out and get some shooting in while you still have a chance. Wing master ------------- I have always considered myself to be quite the bullshitter, But ocasionally it is nice to sit back and listen to a true professional......So, Carry on. |