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Topic: Hiding Guns
Posted By: Muleskinner
Subject: Hiding Guns
Date Posted: 03 December 2010 at 22:20
Hypothetically speaking, what are some good ideas for stashing guns in the home to make them readily available for defense, but difficult for the smash and grab crooks to find?  A shotgun mounted in a black case on the back of a headboard sounds like a good idea.  I'd hate to come home carrying my 380 and face an intruder armed with my riot gun, (birdshot or not).

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Mule



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Posted By: RobertMT
Date Posted: 03 December 2010 at 22:53
Are you talking hard to find or out of sight but readily accessible?

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Posted By: Muleskinner
Date Posted: 04 December 2010 at 04:40
Hard to find but readily accessible.

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Mule


Posted By: Wing master
Date Posted: 04 December 2010 at 08:09

Looks like the side of any old normal bed huh?



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Posted By: Wing master
Date Posted: 04 December 2010 at 08:13

Until you lift up the bed spread and skirt thing. And it is pretty accessable while I am sleeping.

I don't know if a crackhead would find it, but if I could beat him to it I think I would win.



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I have always considered myself to be quite the bullshitter, But ocasionally it is nice to sit back and listen to a true professional......So, Carry on.


Posted By: CB900F
Date Posted: 04 December 2010 at 10:38

Mule;

Velcro & nylon holsters are your friends.  Placement around the house is only limited by your imagination.

900F



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Posted By: Irish Bird Dog
Date Posted: 04 December 2010 at 15:35
wing.......best way for a 1911 is Condition 1....cocked, round in chamber, safety on........your hammer is either down????? or on 1/2 cock it seems from the pic. Makes for an extra effort to run the slide IF you don't have a round in the chamber...a two handed affair coming out of a deep sleep might be interesting.......or you still have to pull the hammer back & disengage the safety....really neat mounting system you have there....damn, them 1911's are really beautiful!


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Irish Bird Dog

NRA Life/Endowment

2nd Amendment Supporter


Posted By: Dennis Keith
Date Posted: 04 December 2010 at 15:46
Truth is there is no place you can hide a gun that any theif fresh out of crook college won't be able to find it. Best bet is to have your weapon with you, ready to use, and the rest locked up in a safe that will keep a theif busy for a while before they break it open, giving you a chance to come home and catch them.


Posted By: Muleskinner
Date Posted: 05 December 2010 at 07:00
Ok Dennis, that is the train of thought I always used.  However, my safe is not all that safe.  External hinges, metal you can get through with the tools in my basement.  Bear with me on this.  If a crook thinks all the guns are in the safe, he may leave with a few, but not the gems.  I'd love to have a new safe but the bucks don't ever seem to be there.  How about on the inside of a dark closet, mounted above the door?  Easy to get to in a pinch, hidden well enough against a guy working on a safe in the other room?  The basement and bathrooms are too humid.

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Mule


Posted By: CB900F
Date Posted: 05 December 2010 at 10:43

Mule;

External hinges are a good thing.  Neither you, nor anybody else, can pay me enough to attempt a repair of internal hinges on an RSC.  And, an RSC is the only place you're going to find internal hinges.  Real safes use external hinges because hinge placement has exactly and precisely nothing to do with the door security of a properly designed unit.

An RSC is a  tin box.  If the sheet metal deforms, the hinges get out of alignment, & the owner gets unhappy.  Like they say in the Russian Marine Corps: "Touzsky sheetsky Komerade".  You don't do the research, and I don't do the  correction.  Buy a better product  to begin with.

900F



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Posted By: RobertMT
Date Posted: 05 December 2010 at 11:11

Look above your curtains, see that valance across the top, perfect place to mount a shotgun or rifle.  Out of sight, out of reach of grand kids and buglers aren't likely to be opening drapes. 

Pistols are easy to hide in any room.  The first place a crook looks is in the master bedroom, under/around bed, between mattresses, nightstands, headboard, dressers, and closet.  You can count on them finding shotgun or pistol there, that's just the trade off, of having it close.  I keep one in front room chair, kitchen cabinet, under computer desk, over front door and yes even in the john.  When the grand kid comes, I'll have to move a few of them.



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Posted By: Wing master
Date Posted: 05 December 2010 at 14:11

Bird dog, Grandkids is the reason I don't have one "in the pipe" of my 1911. The magazine is full. For now, I dont think a 2 year old would be able to chamber a round and fire it. When she gets a little older, I will have the same talk I had with my kids and see what her reaction is then decide what to do from there.

Some good ideas guys. I remember my grandpa had a gun leaned up in the corner behind the doors in every bed room in the house. I always thought that was a good idea, but he might have armed the bad guy.

One thing I like about my bed frame mount is my 1911 doesn't get dusty.

Wing master



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I have always considered myself to be quite the bullshitter, But ocasionally it is nice to sit back and listen to a true professional......So, Carry on.


Posted By: Irish Bird Dog
Date Posted: 05 December 2010 at 15:57
......grandkids........that's a real good reason WM....when my grandkids come over I have to do a sweep of the house and put "things" out of reach & under lock&key 'til they leave again.  They know the rules, their mother is a police officer, and they know she packs daily but they are still kids so we have to protect them from themselves and us.

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Irish Bird Dog

NRA Life/Endowment

2nd Amendment Supporter


Posted By: Muleskinner
Date Posted: 06 December 2010 at 00:47
All the top safes don't have exposed hinges.  Mine is more of a fire safe rather than a security safe.

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Mule


Posted By: CB900F
Date Posted: 06 December 2010 at 02:26

Mule;

"All the top safes don't have exposed hinges."  Please do name me those "top safes" that don't have exposed hinges.  I'll be very interesed in reviewing your list.

900F 



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Posted By: Irish Bird Dog
Date Posted: 06 December 2010 at 04:19
Since this thread drifted into "safes" which could be construed as "hiding" places for firearms...............

for U CB........one of my safes is a MEILINK, kinda old I'd guess, but still has the crinkled type finish so not like the black ones of very old.  It is rated as Fire Class C and says "1 hr fire resistant". The door is quite thick with "steps" that fit into the frame work to close. Dimensions are:41Hx25Wx20D (inches). Combination style rotary dial lock. Interior has two adjustable shelves. Too small for long guns but really great for handguns.  I bought it a few yrs back from my employer (internal co. silent auction @ $151.50) when they upgraded the billing office cash safe.  It has outside hinges and is quite heavy.  We used forklift to get on trk and tractor loader to off load....tuff to get down to basement but used handtruck and neighbor ladys big husband to do so. 

What is MEILINK in the world of safes? 

What do I have in your opinion as to quality?

I seem to think that name has been around.





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Irish Bird Dog

NRA Life/Endowment

2nd Amendment Supporter


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Date Posted: 06 December 2010 at 04:39

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Posted By: CB900F
Date Posted: 06 December 2010 at 12:58

IBD;

The Meilink is a decent fire unit.  It'll probably be just fine for any use you put it to.  Being a fire unit though, it's not a high-strength anti burgalry safe, and would be susceptable to a pry attack.  OTOH, most smash-N-grab types won't even think about trying to pop any safe they see.

Meilink is above the crap sold in box stores, but not really high quality stuff.  Adequate is probably the best description.

900F



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Posted By: Muleskinner
Date Posted: 08 December 2010 at 01:36
Seems like the compromise is between fire security and burgurlar security...and price, of course.  I get safe flyers from a gun shop/range all the time.  I can more easily afford to replace my guns.  I don't have the collection that some of you do.  For me, the safe is a distraction with marginal safety to confound the smash and grab pukes.  I don't consider it accessible enough to be a hiding place.

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Mule


Posted By: Irish Bird Dog
Date Posted: 11 December 2010 at 04:33
Originally posted by CB900F CB900F wrote:

IBD;

The Meilink is a decent fire unit.  It'll probably be just fine for any use you put it to.  Being a fire unit though, it's not a high-strength anti burgalry safe, and would be susceptable to a pry attack.  OTOH, most smash-N-grab types won't even think about trying to pop any safe they see.

Meilink is above the crap sold in box stores, but not really high quality stuff.  Adequate is probably the best description.

900F



Thanks for the info CB.....for the price it was a good buy then....I use it for my handguns....saves space in a long gun unit....it cost less then those little small cube safes at the box stores.....


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Irish Bird Dog

NRA Life/Endowment

2nd Amendment Supporter


Posted By: Muleskinner
Date Posted: 11 December 2010 at 21:51
Do you guys bolster the floor supports for these real heavy safes?

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Mule


Posted By: CB900F
Date Posted: 12 December 2010 at 03:47

Mule;

That depends where it's placed in the home & what size the unit is.

Or, think of this;  A large fridge usually supports itself on two little adjustable feet & two rather small rollers.  Figure maybe six square inches (and I'm being generous, it's probably closer to four) bearing several hundred pounds.  What's the floor loading per square foot?  A typical safe I sell may weigh 1500 lbs loaded with yer goodies, but being flush on the floor spreads that weight over 728 sq inches.  Locate the floor joists, place the safe on an outside wall on three joists & I've never been told of a problem.  Put it on an inside non-load-bearing wall over one joist & you'd better figure on placing a support pillar under it or you're gonna likely have an "adventure".

900F



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