Favorite home defense pistol
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Topic: Favorite home defense pistol
Posted By: BigAl4604
Subject: Favorite home defense pistol
Date Posted: 29 August 2010 at 05:17
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I know we have hashed out what we all like to carry but I was just curious as to what pistol we like to keep loaded by the bedside, the go to gun...NOT the one playing queen in the safe. Remember this is a pistol only not the 500 or 870 you have in the corner or under the bed....
Normally I would say one of my .45s but I like my HK USP .40 due to the higher round capacity. (its hard to hold and fire a pistol while carrying an extra mag in your boxers and its too far to run back to where you started to reload) and the wife likes her Glock 9x19 both have night sights.
------------- "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."
-Benjamin Franklin, 1759
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Posted By: Irish Bird Dog
Date Posted: 29 August 2010 at 08:49
1911 .45........
------------- Irish Bird Dog
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Posted By: RobertMT
Date Posted: 29 August 2010 at 11:41
My Taurus .45, it holds 13 rounds and has a rail light on it. This will get me to the 870 and a rifle.
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Posted By: Wing master
Date Posted: 29 August 2010 at 13:23
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For me its a 1911. If 8 rounds is not enough I wont be reloading, I will be hauling ass.
Wing master
------------- I have always considered myself to be quite the bullshitter, But ocasionally it is nice to sit back and listen to a true professional......So, Carry on.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 29 August 2010 at 13:41
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Charter arms bulldog grip 38 with 4 in the cylinders.
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Posted By: Irish Bird Dog
Date Posted: 29 August 2010 at 13:50
why only "4 in the cylinders"???
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 30 August 2010 at 04:54
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Habit on revolvers, and as Wing says "If (8) 4 rounds is not enough I wont be reloading, I will be hauling ass."
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Posted By: Irish Bird Dog
Date Posted: 30 August 2010 at 05:18
the load less then cylinder capacity method is really only relevant to the old Colt SAA and clones of that type. Load 1, skip one, load 4 more, lower hammer on M/T chamber.
Your modern Charter Arms more than likely passed the H.P. White Labrotory drop test and is designed to negate that procedure, unless you pull the trigger, the firing pin can't be bumped by the hammer.
------------- Irish Bird Dog
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 30 August 2010 at 05:25
It also makes a light weigh gun lighter. I never load more than one shot into my hunting rifles. It is psychological. Make the one shot count!!!! The alternative is spray and pray.
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Posted By: Irish Bird Dog
Date Posted: 30 August 2010 at 05:57
brer bear....this is all academic anyhow..
.the ? was what is your favoite home defense PISTOL.......YOU BRUNG A REVOLVER TO A Pistol Post....
------------- Irish Bird Dog
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Posted By: BigAl4604
Date Posted: 30 August 2010 at 08:03
Wing master wrote:
For me its a 1911. If 8 rounds is not enough I wont be reloading, I will be hauling ass.
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Love it...But dammit I hate running from a fight. Thinking about it I hate running...I drive and get there faster.
------------- "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."
-Benjamin Franklin, 1759
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 30 August 2010 at 09:11
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IBD IBD IBD what am I going to do with you??? that is exactly what Mule says!!!! I'm not surprised when Mule speaks Hollywood gunsmithing and shooting....but you I'm amazed.
Definition of a pistol:
pis·tol /ˈpɪs tl/ [pis-tl], noun, verb, -toled, -tol·ing or ( especially British ) -tolled, -tol·ling.
–noun
1.
a short firearm intended to be held and fired with one hand.
–verb (used with object)
2.
to shoot with a pistol.
Revolvers are PISTOLS----Autoloading (aka Automatics) are PISTOLS----single shots are PISTOLS. Get it straight, and rise above MULIE.
Single shot BP hand cannons (PISTOLS) were around centuries before unloading pistols were invented. See French Dueling pistols, etc.
My single shot 374 T/C is a PISTOL just like my Model 19 and my SAA,
I remain shocked at your statement. Mule hasn't been around here......is he visiting you?????
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Posted By: deaddog
Date Posted: 30 August 2010 at 10:15
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Taurus Judge.
First three holes have buckshot to slow em down and the last two have hot .45 LC's to stop em.
DD
------------- Endeavor to persevere.
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Posted By: MtElkHunter
Date Posted: 30 August 2010 at 11:00
Glock 30. Like Wing says if 10 45's are not enough I am
running.
------------- SW Montana
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Posted By: RobertMT
Date Posted: 31 August 2010 at 00:28
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What's all this talk about running, if 8 or 10 45s aren't enough?
I thought this was about a home defense pistol? I guess my definition of home defense pistol is different, I define a home defense pistol as a means to either stop the attack or to give me time to get to the serious weapons (15' away), the home is like the "Alamo", no retreat/no surrender.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 31 August 2010 at 02:50
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dd why are you wasting good buckshot.
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Posted By: MtElkHunter
Date Posted: 31 August 2010 at 03:12
My idea was if 10 rounds of 45 can not stop it then the
attacher is a T-Rex and nothing I have is going to stop it
and I am running for the hills.
------------- SW Montana
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Posted By: deaddog
Date Posted: 31 August 2010 at 03:18
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Well, they promote a good blood trail if tracking is required.
The factory stuff has 3 or 4 000 pellets. My home brew duplex loads have 6, #4 buck pellets and then #8.5 shot packed around them as a buffer. Throws a nice 2' pattern at 15'.
DD
------------- Endeavor to persevere.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 31 August 2010 at 03:54
Just thinking if the first 3 were 45s, it would really slow them down
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Posted By: swampshooter
Date Posted: 31 August 2010 at 04:27
Mine is a Glock 22 with a combination light & infra-red sight. 16 rounds of .40 S&W. In my neck of the woods the bad guys seldom travel alone and unarmed, wish I had 100 rd. magazine, no telling what might occur and I'm not going to run and leave my wife holding the bag.
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Posted By: MtElkHunter
Date Posted: 31 August 2010 at 07:57
I really have 3 10 round mags for the glock and if that
don't work the backup gun is a ruger Alaskan 44 mag with
300 grain hp rounds with 2 speed loaders. Between the two
of them I think I can get the job done.
------------- SW Montana
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Posted By: deaddog
Date Posted: 31 August 2010 at 09:32
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My reasoning is that with the most likely scenario including at least partial darkness and possibly a moving target a pattern would be helpful. The last two would work for "danger close" or running away.
DD
------------- Endeavor to persevere.
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Posted By: Wing master
Date Posted: 31 August 2010 at 15:43
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Not really planning on running. My point is. I don't think your average crack head bad guy will get past 8 rounds of .45 ACP.
Wing master
------------- I have always considered myself to be quite the bullshitter, But ocasionally it is nice to sit back and listen to a true professional......So, Carry on.
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Posted By: Dennis Keith
Date Posted: 01 September 2010 at 02:23
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I invested in new magazines. 8 in each magazine and one in the spout of the 1911A1. If that hasn't stopped 'em there is no place left to go.
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Posted By: rivet
Date Posted: 01 September 2010 at 10:39
Browning Hi-Power 9 mil. 12 rounds hollowpoints.
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Posted By: NH_Hunter
Date Posted: 06 September 2010 at 10:30
Glock 19 for me. I have a Kimber compact 1911, but I don't trust it as much as I do the glock.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 06 September 2010 at 15:11
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Long time no see/hear from you NH.
did you get a NH moose tag?
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Posted By: NH_Hunter
Date Posted: 07 September 2010 at 10:36
No luck for me this year as far as moose goes. Maybe next year.
Glad to see this place is still chugging along. Whenever I get the hunting bug I tend to swing by and see what's going on, and I have the hunting bug now in a bad way. Gotta love the first day it is below 80 and I am digging out the gun cleaning stuff and my Benoits hunting video 
------------- Leverguns make me smile
Proud Left Handed Shooter
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Posted By: soggyshooter
Date Posted: 07 September 2010 at 10:45
Either the Ruger Security six in .357 or the Makarov if I can't get to one of
the shotguns.
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Posted By: Kingpin
Date Posted: 02 October 2010 at 02:54
My FIRST choice, when things go bump in the night, is my Rem 870 loaded with #9 shot. I also, pick up a model 65 S&W for a kicker. I doubt seriously that I would ever need the 65 after I use the 870 though.............................Kingpin
------------- There are times when a normal man must, spit in his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
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Posted By: CB900F
Date Posted: 02 October 2010 at 03:09
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King;
You poor deluded fool. You live in a zombie area and apparantly don't even know it! Check the web, there are several sites that will educate you about the dangers. These sites are almost universally populated by young urban adults raised by X-boxes & zombie movies who are now experts on the subject. To put it shortly, you're woefully undergunned and have a pitiful amount of ammo.
OTOH, with your creds, you could open THE ZOMBIE DEFENSE ACADAMY, and retire in comfort. All the while laughing yourself sick on the way to the bank. Hmmm, east and west campus's, urban and rural curricula, there's money to be made, I'm tellin' ya.
900F
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 02 October 2010 at 06:03
Posted By: Kingpin
Date Posted: 02 October 2010 at 06:06
Sounds like a good idea. I just can't get into odd ball stuff like plastic guns with screwy calibers no matter what tie gun writers claim. For one, they just CAN'T convince me that any one caliber is better than the tried and true calibers that have been around since the 19th and early 20th centuries. These things were created when a lot of things needed killing and worked well. One question that hasn't been asked is, "What if Custer had had a glock at Little Bighorn." I wonder why? No Sir! No one anywhere can convince me that there is anything better for home defense than a shotgun. It comes closer to the fabled "knockdown" than anything currently available and the average plinker can handle it with the ease and accuracy as they need to be. I also mentioned the .357......................................Kingpin
------------- There are times when a normal man must, spit in his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
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Posted By: JUSTN A. MURKAN
Date Posted: 02 October 2010 at 16:56
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rivet wrote:
Browning Hi-Power 9 mil. 12 rounds hollowpoints. | here also,,that or my N frame Smith with hot loaded +p+ .38 H.P.s.
What ammo you run in THE ORIGINAL wonder 9?,,I keep hearing Fed. premium H.P.s run good in HI-POWERS,,,only had ball thru my P-35.
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Posted By: Dennis Keith
Date Posted: 03 October 2010 at 01:57
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If it fits in a Parabellum chamber the 1935 will digest it rather well. Never had a failure to feed or fire any premium or bargain ammo yet.
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Posted By: Muleskinner
Date Posted: 02 December 2010 at 02:24
KP, I still don't get the birdshot load for your 870. You must have very skinny criminals there. I know y'all live all scrunched together like stalag prisoners, but birdshot? Are you just trying to scare the home invaders? I say this, even though I've been carrying a 380 lately instead of my 45.
------------- Mule
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 02 December 2010 at 03:06
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I think #9 bird shot it excellent under 20 foot. will put anything on the ground instantly, moderate to sever suffering. No surgical repair possible. and it doesn't shoot thru 2 ply 1/2 dry wall with any authority.
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Posted By: Tikkabuck
Date Posted: 02 December 2010 at 03:46
FNP 9 or the 1911.
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Posted By: Kingpin
Date Posted: 02 December 2010 at 04:47
Mule, the idea with the #9's is to minimize damage to my home and to lessen the danger of injuring someone asleep in an adjoining room. 1 1/8 ozs weighs the same no matter what size shot you are using. The thing with the larger shot is that it is possible to blow through walls and maximize damage to your house. #9 shot at 20 feet in a cylinder bore shotgun still holds a tight pattern at normal house distances and acts more like a slug at shorter ranges. If indeed it blows through the intruder, it's lost a LOT of momentum. While #4 shot and larger sizes of buckshot are nice and very effective, I don't care to use them loaded in my house gun because of the possibility of more house damage after the intruder is down............................Kingpin
------------- There are times when a normal man must, spit in his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
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Posted By: Muleskinner
Date Posted: 03 December 2010 at 22:09
Well, if it doesn't stop the intruder in his tracks, you may not have to worry about the house damage anymore. Although, I can appreciate the desire to leave your widow with less of a mess to clean up in the wake of your demise. Personally, I don't think I'd bet my life on bird shot. I'll stick to my 00. We're not as populated as you folks back east though.
------------- Mule
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Posted By: CB900F
Date Posted: 04 December 2010 at 02:12
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Fella's;
I'm lazy, didn't go on the hunt for exotic ammo like #9 shot. Therefore, I'm just barely makin' do with #7 & 1/2 shot. Of course, I've got an old delapidated house with cement board walls too. Maybe that stuff can hold up against them 7.5's & maybe not, but hell, my neighbors are at least 20 yards away. It's Outer Montana, and we ain't packed in nearly so tight.
900F
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Posted By: RobertMT
Date Posted: 04 December 2010 at 11:09
Boy and I thought it was getting crowded around here, my nearest neighbor's a couple hundred yards away.
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Posted By: Rockydog
Date Posted: 04 December 2010 at 14:45
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A wide pattern of # 9 shot would certainly penetrate eyelids. Pretty damn hard to continue aggression when you can't and probably never again will see.
Read an article the other day that argued that the model 94 winchester was the ideal home defense rifle. Can be loaded up the tube and be ready for action instantly by cranking the lever. No safety to fumble for in the dark. Short, handy, intimidating action noise, can easily replenish magazine during short breaks in action, relatively cheap ammo for practice. Down side is wall penetration and muzzle flash. RD
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Posted By: Kingpin
Date Posted: 04 December 2010 at 16:22
I keep my 870 loaded to the top with an empty chamber, hammer down just so i don't have to fumble with the safety in the dark...............................Kingpin
------------- There are times when a normal man must, spit in his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
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Posted By: Dennis Keith
Date Posted: 05 December 2010 at 01:26
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When I worked at Garda (Armored Cars) the "Ready Shotguns" were kept ith an empty chamber with the slid released to half-way down, about as "ready" as you can get.
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Posted By: Kingpin
Date Posted: 06 December 2010 at 15:15
I keep mine loaded to the top with an empty chamber and the hammer down, safety off. In the dark you have only to pick it up and rack the pump and it's loaded. Now, at normal house distances 15 feet and less, with a modified choke, #9 is all BUT a slug when you hit it at the distance I outlined. Another thing, when searching rooms with a shotgun, probably the worse thing you can do is keep it shouldered when entering in stealth mode. It should be choked up with the buttstock tightly under your armpit. If it is sticking out and up to your shoulder, whoever it is may have heard you moving about and is waiting behind the door. When the barrel is seen by him, he can grab it and has enough leverage to take it away from you. Tucked under an armpit and held tightly goes a long way to prevent this up to a point. Fully realizing that not everyone has a short barrel for their shotgun, it is strenuously advised that one does this type of search with the shotgun tucked as short as possible on the presentation end. There's lots of leverage with long barrels. Keep this in mind.............................Kingpin
------------- There are times when a normal man must, spit in his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
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Posted By: RobertMT
Date Posted: 06 December 2010 at 21:05
Kingpin since you brought up keeping your 870 ready with the hammer down on an empty chamber, I've heard conflicting things about dry firing, either it never hurts a modern firearm or it's the worst thing in the world. Personally, I've never had an problem because of it, have I just been lucky. What's the expert opinion on it? I've never had a firing pin spring, lose strength from remaining compressed, nor have I ever had a firing pin break from dry firing, so what's the deal.
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Posted By: Kingpin
Date Posted: 07 December 2010 at 13:26
About the only centerfire firing pin I have ever broken was on my Model 12 trap gun. Smith and Wesson revolvers are dry fired at the factory about 3000 times through out their assembly. Never dryfire a rimfire, it will but a rather large "dink" on the chamber mouth. As far as all the others, I see no problem...............................Kingpin
------------- There are times when a normal man must, spit in his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
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