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    Posted: 06 November 2009 at 08:34
Finally took the plunge to try my hand at pastrami from scratch...that is, from a whole packer brisket.

Never made pastrami from grocery store corned beef packs either, so I figured if I was going to give pastrami a try, might as well go all the way!

Got a 14LB packer at the grocery, standard regular price, no deals no spikes. That's what they go for here in beef country nowadays, $1.89/lb ...



Also picked up some TenderQuick and the spice mix for the brine. Everything else I had at home...



Crushed the spice seeds (juniper, peppercorns, mustard seed) with a rolling pin. Put them in the pan with the rest of the spices (garlic, bay leaf and coriander not shown) and some water to simmer....



As soon as it started simmering I cut off the heat and covered the pan. Let the oils come out of the spices for about 20 minutes, then strained the seeds out...



The liquid was put back in the pan with TenderQuick, brown sugar and garlic powder. Brought to a simmer, then off and mixed well. Into the fridge it goes till tommorrow, when I inject the trimmed beef....



The smell of the brine is ALL PASTRAMI, all good! Wow. Going for a traditional taste here, during my first try. I'll tweak the next time.

More pics tommorrow morning of the trimming, injecting and sealing the flat for the 7 day brine. Going to make burnt ends with the point, so I will post pics of that too.

Thanks for looking!
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looks really good so far, john. keep us updated!
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DefaultDay 2


So this morning I took the packer out of the fridge and separated the point from the flat and trimmed most of the fat off. Some folks say leave 1/4 inch cap on, I decided to go lean. Ended up with a good 4+ pounds of fat from the cut, so we end up with what looks like 10 pounds meat-


After trimming, I made the rub. Looks and smells real nice.


After the rub, I brought out my new $2.49 Ace Hardware Meat Injector I bought yesterday. It held up beautifully and with care will last a long time. That's good to know since I'd read a lot of bad things about cheap plastic injectors. Anyway, managed to inject about 3 cups into this huge flat~ It's big, and here's a pic of it all injected and puffy looking-


After that, I rubbed it all over. Thought I ran a little short on the rub, but let it go. It's a big flat, but next time if it's that big I'll increase the recipe by half again-


After that, brought out the sealer and vacu-sealed that baby! Into the fridge it went to be massaged and turned twice a day. Mrs Rivet thought that was funny, but agreed to help massage and turn since I work early!


It will stay in there until next saturday when I smoke it over alder, recommended. I'll definitely post pics of that.

The point will get rubbed and smoked into burnt ends probably tommorrow. If they come out okay I'll post pics of that too. Thanks for taking the time to look at my cooking!





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very interested.....will definitely keep an eye on this one rivet
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Rivet, I'm not seeing the photos in the last post???? RD

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Originally posted by Rockydog Rockydog wrote:

Rivet, I'm not seeing the photos in the last post???? RD


Hey Rocky, I think I fixed the post. Let me know if it didn't work and I will re-post a proper thread again.

Sorry for the screwup.


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Rivet, Got it now! Damn, I love pastrami too, wish I lived closer. You'd have a visitor. RD
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Originally posted by Rockydog Rockydog wrote:

Rivet, Got it now! Damn, I love pastrami too, wish I lived closer. You'd have a visitor. RD


Hey anytime you are in the AO let me know and we'll throw down some barbecue!

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okay, here's the point VacuPak'd. My plans changed so I don't know if I'm gonna smoke this puppy tomorrow or next saturday, so we're sealed and ready for either contingency!

Rubbed it with my "house rub" specialty for beef, and packed it up. It'll be good regardless!




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very, very nice. this is shaping up to be a nice-looking project. i'm not a huge fan of commercial pastrami, but the home-made ones look to be much more multi-dimensional. the smoking should be the icing on a very nice cake.

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Now with the pics I am even more jealous then I was..lol...looks great rivet and can't wait for the finished pics
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Hey thanks guys, I appreciate the good words of encouragement. After I started I felt overwhelmed and wondered what I'd gotten myself into.

But, it's really easy and completely manageable once broken down in to its component steps. That's what I am trying to illustrate in this post, and maybe encourage others who may think making a pastrami is way too involved (like I used to think).

Essentially it's 3 steps- making the brine and rub, playing around with your meat (trimming and separating)  then smoking. I guess it was the fact that it had to brine for a week made it seem really complicated.

Tas~ you are right on with your observation on commercial pastrami, and the homemade one. The home made one can be cut into small cubes and included in home-fried potatoes and onions, or added to cream of asparagus or mushroom soup; heck brown it in the oven and use it instead of bacon for pasta a la carbonara! There's a lot of playing around that can be done here, and that's what really helped me take the leap and give it a go.
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Pastrami Hash perhaps??? I make roast beef hash with leftover beef roast and the potatoes, carrots, onions and gravy that were in the pan when roasting. Makes the canned stuff look like Alpo in comparison. Fry it until it's brown and crispy on the outside, too good. I bet the Pastrami might work too. RD
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Okay the smoking day is here-

Rinsed it over cold, running water and soaked it in several sinkfuls for a total of 45 min. Then did the fry test. Tastes great, not salty, good to go



Gave it the final rub, then onto the smoker with the point, over Alder at 225F. Here they are about an hour into the smoke-



It hit a stall for a bit over two hours, but we hung through it and zoomed to the finish. Pulled it at 190F



Sliced it in two and discovered something delicious! A whole lot better than store bought and a lot less expensive...



Sliced it up and it was soft as can be....



Then on to supper! Reuben sandwiches- Jewish Rye, hot mustard, swiss cheese-



With sides of Bavarian style sauerkraut, kettle-cooked potato chips and my favorite- Mount Olive Kosher Dill Spears. A nice finish to the day...




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yowza - that looks incredible. i'm a believer!
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