New scopes

i've got a sightron s1 in 3-9x44mm. my opinion is that it is easily equal to scopes costing twice as much, and it is built with ruggedness in mind. also, it's japanese-manufactured, and they make they best as far as i am concerned.

average price seems to be about 150$. for an extra hunfdred you can get an s2, which is really stepping into some quality. the s2's have EXACTRAC, which allows them to REALLY hold ZERO.

i personally would put my money on the sightron, but i have never done a side-by-side comparison. i can tell you that the sightron has been great for me! it also has a forever no-fault warranty, similar to the leupold warranty. not sure about the weaver, but i am assuming they have some sort of warranty as well.

if anyone out here has a weaver v9, chime in on this, please. i can give him my experience on the sightron side, but it would be good to have both!

Do any of you guys have any experience with the Simmons Aetec. That scope too, has fully multi-coated lenses. It is a little bit more expensive than the V9 and is the same price as a Leupie VX-1 2-7. The aetec seems to have good eye relief. That still would leave my muzzleloader unscoped. I just found out that Simmons is owned by Meade, who also owns weaver and Redfield.

NH_Hunter

Well, i just found out a place where i can get a Leupy VX-2 brand new for 180 bucks. Good bye meade and sightron, Hello Leupy 1-4x20 for my ml, and hello Leupy 2-7x33 for my rifle. YAHHOOOOOOO!!!!!!

NH_Hunter

>>>Just some food for thought.  I love both scopes dearly and haven't had a hitch with eigher but I'll tell ya, the Sightron is making me think I'll never be spending another $500 on a Leupold again.  Nothing at all against Leupold, but for the $$$, Sightron makes one hell of a scope.<<<

what he said!

http://www.midwayusa.com/rewriteaproduct/958927

Midway USA's got the SI 3-9x that Ron's talking about for $149.99  Heck, you can throw in the mil dot reticle for $25 more.  Throw a little shipping in and it might be around that $180 Leupold price tag.

Either way you choose, I'm sure you'll be pleased.  Later.  >>  klallen

"the only problem with adding in the mil dot reticle is that none of the shots at game that i get are more than 100 yards"

Perfect reasoning.

NH  >>  Working the mil dots on the vertical (trajectory) is as straight forward as it can be.  Once the load you like has been developed, that data is used in your favorite ballistic program calculating the trajectory your bullet down range.  Then you need to apply these #'s to the instrument rise of the dots in your scope.  From this, a precise drop chart can be drawn up for whatever ranges you expect to be shooting.  After that, assuming all is done correctly, all you need is a accurate range finder to tell the distance to the target and hold according to your chart.  My chart gives holds for every 25 yd. increment.  And each hold is in 1, 1/2 and 1/4 mils.  All this MUST be complemented with huge amounts of time at the range getting a feel for the dots.  Varminting is an awesome way to familiarize yourself with the dots of a scope.

The dots on the horizontal are trickier.  Distance between dots can be calculated for different ranges much the same way as above for know wind speeds.  However, when in the field, the accuracy of using these horizontal dots is dependent on your ability to accurately guage the wind.  Anyone shooting at longer ranges will tell ya this is the hardest part of the whole operation.  And the only way to get good at it is by shooting in the wind.  Instruments are out there to aid in this, but being able to read things down range becomes the trick.  It is difficult, and as with most shooters, every day I go out I learn more and more.  I become better and better at it.  Practice be the key.

By the way, I saw a 2-7 Leupold dot over on gunbroker but I think it's in a price range you said you were not comfortable with.  Might take a looksee anyway.  Later.  >>  klallen

I only need a scope for my rifle now. I got my muzzleloader today and it is a perfect candidate for the Redfield 2.5x.  Now all i need are scope mounts and rings, seeing as i already have the scope and the gun is drilled and tapped for scope mounts. I installed scope mounts/rings before, on my dad's Marlin 444s. He hasnt shot it yet with the scope on it, but if it goes well than i did a good job.

NH_Hunter