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    Posted: 25 March 2007 at 09:28
i've seen it said that eyes and hands aren't always on the same side, and that the eyes are just as, if not more, important when it comes to shooting as the hands are. any experiences?
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I use to be left hand, right eye dominant but with some practice I managed to retrain the eyes so now I'm left eye dominant
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Taz;

My daughter is indeed right handed, left eye dominant.  She decided to switch shooting from the right shoulder to the left several years ago.  We noticed about a 10% improvement in accuracy after she acclimated.

I'd also note that the acclimation was easier because her firearm was a Ruger 10/22.  No bolt to worry about that way, she could just concentrate on the basic mechanics.

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When I used to teach shotgun shooting for the NWTF Women In the Outdoors program I found that there seems to be a whole bunch of women out there who have Right hand Left eye dominance. Many of them were really frustrated by their efforts to learn to shoot. (No doubt frustrating many well intentioned husbands and boyfriends too.) As I recall it didn't seem at all uncommon for about 6 out of 10 women to have this trait. After we got things sorted out and tried shooting off the other shoulder their first trap shooting efforts, over a locked down straight away trap, never ceased to amaze them as they broke more than they missed. RD
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One solution (not best) on a rifle is to place the scope about 1.5 inches to the left of bore.  You can shoot right handed left eyed.  i have one rifle equipted this way since I lost sight in my right dominate eye.
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I am right hand left eye but it is due to an eye injury when I was a teenager. Makeing the switch to shooting lefty was tough but now it is natural except for shotgun. I just can't quite get the mechanics down for that but then I don't really shoot shotgun much. I actually prefer right handed rifles stocked with lefty stocks though. Just easier for me to load and unload righty. 
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When a lad of 3 or 4 I injured my right arm in a washing machine roller. Put it up, reversed the gear and rolled it back out.  Since then I have been left handed but right eye dominant. Not knowing about eye dominance as a 11 year old I was shooting lefty. My dad's old Savage pump action.22 fired when out of battery once and I caught a face full of burnt powder. That led me to immediately switch to shooting right handed. Later when I realised my right eye is dominant I was grateful. It seems switching hands was easier for me than trying to retrain my eyesight. Eye dominance is inherent while manual dexterity is learned.

With hand guns I still continue to shoot right as even though left handed my eye-hand coordination leads to a better trigger pull after years of doing it right handed.

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Interesting thoughts Murf.  "...switching hands was easier for me than trying to retrain my eyesight. Eye dominance is inherent while manual dexterity is learned."

I agree, and so did the nuns that taught me in grade school.  No left handed kids writing then.  Certainly "modern educators" have yet to figure this out; so kids "do it their individually styled way".  My daughter when in 4 grade told me "dad, in school they taught me there is no 'right-way".  to this day she still believes that.

I've suggested to parents switching some young kids.  they go ballistic. (pun)

I also noticed when I switched to left handed shooting, my trigger pull on my left hand was bad.  It took lots of practice to get it anywhere near my right-hand (55 years of dominance) trigger pull.  Now, I'm really screwed.  I got laser surgery on my right eye, so I have some vision there.  On good eye days I can shoot right eyed.  On bad days I have to shoot left-eyed.  Since most of my rifles are right handed, I prefer to shoot right handed.  But my left eye is now dominant.  Scopes force me to use the correct eye.  But shotgun, fast game shooting...I often miss because I'm shooting right handed left eyed (bad).

Just got a device that makes me use the right (non-dominant eye).  Haven't shot it yet, I'll report after turkey season.

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My mom was left handed and taught to write righty like you. I and my son who is also lefty or sinister as they say were allowed to retain the PROPER  way of writing.



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I'm now both dexter and sinister!
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I am also right handed and left eyed. As a kid shooting bb guns and when I had lawn mowing money shooting 22 shorts, I had no idea what eye was dominent and didnt really care. I guess I compensated for it by closing my left eye. I still do this without thinking about it.

Do you guys think I should try to change anything after all these years or just keep doing what has worked (I think) pretty well so far.

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Wing;

I don't know, only way for you to tell is to try it & see what you think.  But, I do think different people have different levels of dominance.  It then follows that different people will have various levels of adaptation time & trouble.  However, I also know from my daughter's experience that if you don't work at changing, for some variable length of time, that you can't get a fair test of the proposition.

What you might try doing though, is set up a bench session.  Use a .22 rimfire & preferably a semi-auto.  Shoot 5 consecutive groups right eyed & then switch.  Perhaps you'll see a noticable improvement in accuracy, or ease in obtaining accuracy, when you use the naturally dominant eye.  I'm suggesting a semi-gun because then operating issues kinda go out the window.  The object is to test accuracy, nothing else.

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Wing,  I think I'd keep doing what you have been doing.  Unless you are having shooting problems.

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 I've only seen it with one person , my wife. Her first time up to camp and her first time shooting . Luckily my Dad was watching

She , being right handed was shooting RH , Dad noticed she was missing , but consistantly .

He had her stick her thumb up at arms length and told her to cover a spot with her thumb with both eyes open , then close one eye and then the other to see which one was dominate.  Switched her to shooting south paw and she started turning beer cans into swiss cheese almost instantly  

 I never would have thought of it  and glad Dad was there to get her off on the "left foot " so she didn't have to relearn all over again.

 

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I don't believe the issue of which eye is dominant is as important when shooting a rifle. Because there is generally more time to take the shot and clossing ne eye, while not recommended will work the advantage of using the dominant eye is not as important as when shot gunning. I shoot right handed for all shooting because trigger pull, gun handling etc is very important for shot guns or handguns. It just seems better to train the manual dexterity to function one way.
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If you are cross dominate eye/hand you might want to try the EASYHit shotgun 'sight'.  It is the one that Tom Knapp uses and sells.

Basically if you don't see the bright red spot, you are using the wrong eye.  Sells for about $30.  I now have them on all my shotguns, great.

 

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I am right handed-Left eyed dominant, it has no effect on my rifle or hand gun shooting, I slightly close my left eye when shooting and this forces the right eye to take over, shotgunning is something else, real easy to miss a target do to cross over, shooting trap i call for the bird with both eyes open, track the target with both eyes and if I am really on my "A" game my right eye will take over and all I will see is the target explode, on my normal days of shooting as I cannot find my "A" game everday like I used to I have found I can blurr my left eye just a little and the right one will do what I want, kinda hard to explain, its not a wink, not even a squint, but I can make them switch when I need to, now if I could hit all them Damned targets I would feel better.

 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jules Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 January 2009 at 11:03

My husband's the same way, right-handed but had some damage to his right eye, so he's left eye dominant. He's big into trap shooting and closes his left eye to force the right to work. He says it's a big handicap for him, but he's so dominantly right-handed that he can't switch the hands.

Me, I'm left-handed but not excessively so, and right-eyed. I shoot right-handed usually, but am almost as good with my left.

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