Hi-Point Handguns ???

Opinions?

I've always considered them the the 710's of the handgun world.  Cheap.  Functional at best.  Loads of issues at worst.

I've got another chat site with members admonishing them as reasonable personal defense fodder (to my objections).

Again, opinions?

I've heard that the initial reliability is up, but the long-term reliability is not there.  This is changed from suspect reliability period.  In other words, don't use it as a shooter, it'll get used up pretty quick.  However, they are being put forward as a reasonable low-cost self defence platform for single mom's & other low income people.

All heresay to me, I have never owned one or shot one. 

I have a pretty high confidence factor in the above assessment though.  They are blow-back operation with truly massive slides handling cartridges like the 9mm & .40 S&W that operate at 35,000 psi.

Foo

A rose by any other name is still a rose, and I think the same goes for cheap firearms. crap is crap no matter how you slice it.

I have shot them 2 friends have them as nightstand guns. They seem to function, but they (at least the 2 I have shot) are not accurate! They feel like a real heavy toy in your hand. ergonomics are all wrong, and very top heavy.

all in all. If I'm buying a weopon to save my life and the lives of my family, and may be fired where the collatral damage may be my wife or kids in the next room. I would rather have a good, accurate, comfortible weopon. One that was designed well enough that I could spend time at the range with it so it has become natural to fire it. The Hi piont will not be that weopon. It will be worn out in no time IMHO

MM

you started your post by saying, "If they work does it matter?".  like i said in my last post, if you're comfortable putting the protection of you and yours in the hands of a discount semiauto, then no i guess it doesn't matter

Wise words, read and head....................................Kingpin

jh, don't put to much weight on what's said of hi-point firearms on a dedicated hi-point chat forum.  the silliness in doing so should be obvious.  you're probably not going to get the most rounded of opinions at such a place.  i own a glock 21 .50gi.  a newer propietary cartridge.  a nice enough cartridge.  i enjoy it a great deal.  right up my ally, really, because not everyone has one or even knows about it.  that said, it's just another cartridge designed for personal defense.  point is, there's a chat forum dedicated solely to the cartridge and firearms so chambered.  did you know that?  and as you'd expect, very few things negative are said about the round there.  i'm a member but not the most popular of members because i tend to shed the light of reality where they don't necessarily want it.  same can be said for some of the things we're hearing with this hi-point stuff. 

i guess all we can do is break it down to the barest essential.  ask your law enforcement, bud.  don't ask what they're service carry is (although i'm certain it's not a hi-point), but ask what they choose for their own personal back-up or concealed carry.  ask your police.  the officers in your highway patrol and sheriff's departments.  see what semi-auto's (if they choose semi-auto's) they're choosing to defending themselves and their own with.   see if they go with a hi-point or "anything" else.  i've done the asking and their answers are predictible.  so the question is very basic     ...     if those in the business of protecting don't choose hi-point, why would i?  why would i choose "less" to protect me and my own?  really, it's common sense stuff.

just so you don't think i'm an elitist in any way, shape or form, among a safe full of semi-auto's of various values, i do own a pa-63 mak and a cz-52 tok.  both $150 firearms.  cheap.  functional.  wildly fun to play with.  accurate and reliable enough with the loads i have developed for each.  yet neither would be considered a primary to fill my personal defense needs.  now don't be so naive as to believe that because i just said what i did, that i don't believe either firearm would kill.  without a doubt, they can and could.  simply being able to kill just isn't enough, though, when it comes to protecting myself or my own.  i want there to be no questions with regard to function and reliability.  none.  i don't get that, to my satisfaction, with a $150 mil-surp.  i don't get that, to my satisfaction, with hi-point.

if i'm buying to simply play, i don't mind going cheap.  but if i'm buying to protect, i don't skimp.  and the beauty of the situation i'm currently in is, i don't have to skimp.  buying inferior firearms to protect the most important things to me isn't a compromise i have to make.

k