rookie mistakes

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   although i know absolutely NOTHING about bowhunting, other than it is
very challenging, i would submit that these factors below are very
crucial in developing the skills necessary to be successful. they can
also play a huge role in a LACK of success for beginners:

  scent control
  noisy equipment
  range estimation
  shot timing

i believe that by recognizing bowhunting's most common "rookie errors"
and preventing their occurance, even a beginner can tag ba nice buck
his first time out.

any other factors or concerns?

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TasunkaWitko Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Administrator aka The Gipper Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: Chinook Montana Status: Offline Points: 14753	Post Options Post Reply Quote TasunkaWitko Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: rookie mistakes Posted: 25 April 2005 at 10:13
	although i know absolutely NOTHING about bowhunting, other than it is very challenging, i would submit that these factors below are very crucial in developing the skills necessary to be successful. they can also play a huge role in a LACK of success for beginners: scent control noisy equipment range estimation shot timing i believe that by recognizing bowhunting's most common "rookie errors" and preventing their occurance, even a beginner can tag ba nice buck his first time out. any other factors or concerns?
	TasunkaWitko - Chinook, Montana Helfen, Wehren, Heilen Die Wahrheit wird euch frei machen

Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 April 2005 at 10:20
	Bow hunting is like any other type of hunting; the more you understand your game and the better the location you have the more successful you will be. My biggest 'mistake' bow hunting was in 1962 hunting Allegheny National Forest. saw a deer coming toward me. Naturally I want to take the best (closest ) shot. I waited until it was close.....to close...I couldn't draw the bow 'cause the deer was within the length of the arrow. I tried to lean back as I drew...that was an equally dumb thing. Never let them get to close any more. Shot an 8 point this year at 3 yards...a reasonable shot. BEAR

gary murray Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby Joined: 13 February 2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 1603	Post Options Post Reply Quote gary murray Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 April 2005 at 11:32
	My biggest thing is judging range. Ive put many an arrow over the back or underneath the animal. Now when i set up a ground blind or my stand i pace off to different directions and mark the spot with a stick so i know if im in range or not. It could be 20 yards to the bush or 30 yards to the edge of the creek etc. I hunt with a horton crossbow so my shooting range isnt as good as a compound bow so i like to have my shots preferably around 25 yards max maybe even squeeze for 30 if i feel i need to. Gary
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Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 April 2005 at 12:01
	With the invention of cheap laser range finders, I've got no problem with knowing exactly how far the shot is. When I scout I mark trees/bushes/fence posts/etc. I like to use white thumbtacks. Easy to see, and cheap. At 20 yds two tacks, 3 at 30 4 at 40, 50 at fifty. I usually mark in three or four shooting lanes. I also do a 50 yard circle with the tacks for turkey hunting. Less guessing. BEAR

gary murray Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby Joined: 13 February 2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 1603	Post Options Post Reply Quote gary murray Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 April 2005 at 14:52
	They have cheap range finders for golfers that are only $30.00. I wonder if those would do the trick for bowhunting. One deer that was coming at me ended up spooking from a branch breaking back in the brush. I guessed him at 40 yards and i was waiting for that extra 10 yards when he spooked but when i got up and paced it off, the yardage was 27 yards. Gary
	If you can sue McDonalds for getting you fat then why can't you sue the alcohol companies for all the ugly people you ended up sleeping with? Penticton, B.C. Canada

teebogr81 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .243 Winchester Joined: 13 July 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 240	Post Options Post Reply Quote teebogr81 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 April 2005 at 09:10
	gary, Be careful of the 30.00 golf range finder. Many of those cheap golf range finders base their distance calculation on the height of the flagstick which are all the same. Those will never work for hunting. Some of them use a parallax of some sort to bring a double image into focus as a single image and then give you the distance. Those will probably work for bow hunting. However most I've seen are very limited in their distance. Hope this helps, tee
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gary murray Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby Joined: 13 February 2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 1603	Post Options Post Reply Quote gary murray Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 April 2005 at 00:50
	I guess i should stick to pacing off the distance. I only bowhunt from Sept 1st - Sept 9th and Nov 26th - Dec 10th so i wouldnt want to spend hundreds of $$$$$ on a proper range finder as it would only get used a few times a year. Gary
	If you can sue McDonalds for getting you fat then why can't you sue the alcohol companies for all the ugly people you ended up sleeping with? Penticton, B.C. Canada

mr mom Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .30/06 SpringField Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 342	Post Options Post Reply Quote mr mom Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 April 2005 at 01:49
	i think 1 of the other problems is getting your stand in the right spot... it never fails that you set up in a good spot where you think the deer are going to come from and they come in behind you... and as for sent control, we always try to set up with the wind in your face. but it never fails that the wind changes while you are setting in the stand... i missed so many deer because of distance !!! i went to a pendallum site it helped out quit a bit...but with these new faster bows it seems all youu need it 1 pin and you good out to 30 yds.
	mr mom

Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 April 2005 at 02:08
	Mr. Mom, Right on. I've been teaching one sight for the last 30 years. The manufacturers lot to sell us stuff. One pin with some knowledgeable Kentucky Windage is all you need. Multiple sights usually mean shooting over critters, cause you picked the wrong pin, even though you knew the right range and pin. I was stalking a herd of whitetails feeding in a creek bottom. I caught up to them in a wide area about 100 yds wide, and they were also on the other side of the 15 foot wide 2 foot deep creek. As I watched they fed toward me, a crow screamed and they ran directly at me, stopping just across the stream, 20 yds. I pulled up on a decent doe (no bucks in that season). When I released I watched the arrow feathers just touch the deers back, and then tumble. The herd took off. It wasn't till hours later that my sight picture haunted me on the long drive home, I had held on the wrong pin. I can still see that sight picture today, 35 years later. Errors and mistakes live long in our minds. So only one pin the rest of my life, never had a problem. BEAR

mr mom Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .30/06 SpringField Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 342	Post Options Post Reply Quote mr mom Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 April 2005 at 03:43
	bear: amen !!!! how you remember these little things.. i was sitting on the side of a hill, in a freinds treestand i thought it was 12 ft. off the ground . but it was 15 ft. had 2 does come in, first 1 i thought was 20 and shot right under it . missed clean. next 1 came in what i thought was 25 yds. sot under that 1. i got neather deer. went to pick up my arrows and stepped it of , the first 1 was at 25 not 20 yds, and the 2 nd 1 was at 30 not 25. after that i went to a treestand sight. started to have better luck. now i shoot a keller and so do all the kids. 1 pin and its goo off the ground or in the tree. the only thing is with my old browning im not shooting as far as the kids with their hoyt and matthews.
	mr mom

RedWoolArcher Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .22 LongRifle Joined: 18 July 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 11	Post Options Post Reply Quote RedWoolArcher Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 July 2005 at 16:18
	scent control noisy equipment range estimation shot timing its all in your head simplafiy and it all just flows togther =>>>>>-----RedW oolArcher----->->>