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    Posted: 14 November 2003 at 14:58

The 99's in the truck and ready for tomorrow. I just like that rifle and am curious as to how well it'll untrack them. It shoots pretty fair at 200 yards and I figure it should work just fine if I can get a decent shot at anything out to at least that distance. Will be using Federal Classic 150 grain loads since I zeroed it with that a year ago and haven't changed zero since. Do wish that I'd chronographed these for speed just to know what it's doing. Shot a couple of milder handloads through it at the range last week and it did just what it did last year with them. Either of them would be usable at 100 yards with no adjustment. And one combo is only a tiny bit low at 200 but still centered for windage. May end up using another rifle before all is said and done this season, but the .300 gets another opening day chance again.AW

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 November 2003 at 16:19

Adobe,

A great classic weapon, hope it has a brass rotary mag??????????????

Sounds like you are a bit "iffy" on the POI with the 150 classic.  To late now, forget it.  Concentrate on the hunt.  The weapon is ok.  Wait for the right shot and the day is yours.

Good luck

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 November 2003 at 16:28
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Relax Dude, the rifle and cartridge are great. It's my wifes rifle of choice and she has killed a boat load of deer, turkey, and hogs with her's.



It's a 1938 Takedown. The barrel has been cut down to 18.5" to balance the rifle after the hand oiled stock was fitted to her small frame. The barrel was also Mag-N-Ported and all the metal Parkerized. It is a sweet shooter with just about any load. The handloads I produce for her push a 150-grain Hornady BTSP at 2575 FPS.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 November 2003 at 16:35

Michael,

You treat your wife nice.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 November 2003 at 00:32
Can I have one too?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 November 2003 at 00:57
Originally posted by NH_Hunter NH_Hunter wrote:

Can I have one too?


The Rifle or the woman??? My gal is a good one... basically lets me be free...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 November 2003 at 02:57

My 99 has the brass rotor. It was made in the early 50's according to serial numbers. It wears an old Weaver K4 in/on Weaver rings and bases. As for the POI on the Federal 150's; it was zeroed at 200 with them a year ago.  I intended to confirm the zero again this year, but goofed and left them at home. My Hornady 150 spire point handloads being a bit more sedate, are printing as they were last year which was just a tiny bit below the Federal loads. (still in the black on a 100 yard bull at 200) My latest handload with the Sierra 150 RN is really low at 200 but is "headshot" on at 100.(three for three in the small diamond on a Redfield target at 100) That RN obviously has a lot of drag in the second 100 yards of travel. If I  had a more refined version of the RN load, I might lean towards it a bit more even for ranges up to 200 yards. I think that bullet might be a "sleeper" for the .300 Savage cartridge, as it came highly recommended from a Sierra tech for .300 Savage speeds. Anyhoo, I went to the woods this AM and saw nothing but a squirrel and some dogs attempting to chase up some squirrels or rabbits in the brush. Heard about 20 shots by 7:30 but all were some distance from me on other properties. Some of it sounded like "buck fever" given the cadence of two or three strings. Deer probably are holding tight unless stepped on is my guess. Might be a good day to hunt mid-day between 10:00 and 2:00. Going to load the chainsaw and tools and go back after breakfast. If I can't eat meat I might as well get some wood while I'm out and about today.AW

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 November 2003 at 03:41
I think I'm going to do some cruising for 99's in marginal cosmetic condition to do a "workover" on.  I know where a 99 in .308 is that's pretty rough and would actually need bead blasting and rebluing or parkerizing. If the bore was good, it just might be worth the effort to have a rough and tumble 99 in .308 for one of my kids about 10 years from now. It'd certainly be enough rifle for anything up to and inlcuding moose with proper 165-180 grain bullets.AW
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 November 2003 at 03:54
Forgot to mention it, but I have a left handed female friend that lives in the foothills that has a chopped 99 tang safety version in .250-3000. She has whacked lion, bear, and deer with that little peashooter. I think at least one elk fell to it as well in either her hands or another family member. I don't consider the .250 to be quite enough cartridge for some of the tasks she has put it to, but the critters obviously didn't get the memo and expired without incident. For deer and varmints around the ranch and farm  the .250 works pretty slick. I think bear and elk are stretching it somewhat. It's too bad she can't find a companion 99 in  .308 or .300 to compliment it.AW
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 November 2003 at 02:42
Well unfortunately neither I nor the old 99 had a chance to screw up for the regular season. Only saw 4 deer one morning and I just don't snipe at running stuff a quarter mile away! We do have a doe only season coming up in Dec though. I'll probably get out a couple of times when that rolls around. Could have hunted the muzzleloader season this weekend if I hadn't gotten sick, but don't figure I need to tempt fate and end up with pneumonia trying to be D. Boone!AW
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 November 2003 at 11:10
Well Ranch dog, whichever you think is more suitable would be fine by me. Adobe, too bad you didnt have any luck with the .300 Savvy in the regular season. Last year my dad had to shoot two shots behind the shoulder to knock over a 200 lb. boar with his. He shoots the Remington 150 gr. Core-Lokt. He is one of those light bullet fans it seems. It took me a while to convince him to use 180's in his .300 Winnie for elk. And you know what, he shot it right behind the shoulder and it went 30 feet and dropped. Blood trail was 2 to 3 feet wide. After this you would think he would listen to me more often.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 December 2003 at 04:17

NH,

I think the .300 Savage is a pretty well balanced cartridge with the 150's when used on deer. For tougher critters such as hog and bear, or bigger stuff such as elk or moose, I think either very tough 150 grain premium bullets or simply heavier bullets probably are called for. It doesn't seem to take much bullet or power to punch a .30 caliber bulet through a deer from any reasonable angle. I've butchered enough deer to be convinced that even a BIG deer really isn't all that big or dense. You just have to hit them in the right place.

If I ever  get around to experimenting with heavier bullets in the .300 Savage, I'm going to give the 165's a real careful look. For the cartridge, they seem far more practical than the 180's unless you were simply hunting the thickets where velocity and trajectory were of little concern past 100 yards.AW

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 December 2003 at 12:39

My Dad was born in 1922, about the same time the 300 Savage was released.  He hunted everything western Wyoming offered with his featherweight 99 Savage.  Moose,elk, blackies, mulies, and 'lopes fell to his 300 and plain vanilla factory ammo. 

Amazingly, his favorite elk ammo featured Remington's round nose 180 gr. soft nose.  Dad always said it opened up fast like a 150 gr pointed bullet but had the  weight and momentum to break bones for deep penetration. 

Dad no longer hunts.  His incurable congestive heart condition has taken away his strength.  He told me last month he was waiting for the angel of death to take him away.  I think we will bury Dad's 300 with him.  It will never be mine, I'll always think of it as Dad's rifle.  My brother feels the same way.  We don't want a stranger to have it either.  I know this is irrational but that's the way it is sometimes.

But I'm glad the 300 Savage cartridge lives on in older rifles and Remington's new Classic edition. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 December 2003 at 12:47

there's just something about an old sav99 in those savage chamberings that REALLY says "hunting," know what i mean?

the savage 99 in either 300sav or 250-3000sav is DEFINITELY on my "gotta get" list....

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 December 2003 at 00:29
Back in about 1995 the Farmer's Cooperative was going to discontinue selling ammo. The manager remembered me buying some type of Savage round, it was 300 Savage, so he gave me 10 boxes of Remington 250 Savage ammo! I've looked high and low for a rifle but last year ran arcoss a young lady that hunted with one. I gave her all 10 boxes and it really made her hunting season.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 December 2003 at 12:12

Teddy,

I am sorry to hear of your Dad's condition. I know what it's like to see a parent no longer the active person they once were. I would like to suggest that there will probably be a Grandkid or Greatgrandkid that will prove to be a fitting legacy to own and hunt with your Dad's old Savage someday. A rifle with a blood tie and a friendly spirit to go with it is a priceless family treasure.AW

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 December 2003 at 12:27

Teddy,

I think the old heavy weight Round Nose soft point bullets in the vintage loads were far more effective on heavy game than a lot of us younger guys that were raised in the high speed everything era would at first glance believe. If it'll penetrate and expand, it doesn't matter much how fast it was traveling through the animal.AW 

I just re-read your post about your Dad again. He was of the same generation as my Dad.(only a year difference). My Dad was sold on those Remington CoreLokt bullets too. The 170's in his .30/30 worked to perfection for him.AW 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 December 2003 at 12:48
Well my grandfather is one year older than your father Teddy. He swore by the 170 grain Core-lokts in .30-30. That is all he gives me for use the rifle that he gave me two years ago. Hmmmmmm. Maybe that generation should be called the Core-Lokt generation?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 December 2003 at 12:58

NH,

You may be right about the "CoreLokt generation". It (the CoreLokt) really was the first great leap forward in jacketed bullet technology for hunting bullets. The idea is sound and well proven at this point in history. The bullets really did a fine job under most scenarios. Later hunters might prove to be the "Partition" generation, which probably was the next "big thing" in bullets after the CoreLokt.AW

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