The .50 bmg vs The Deer

 Hey Folks

    I thought you would like to see a good friend of mine with a deer he took this year. The deer was about 80 yards away with a 750 grain coming at her. This is the first time he used this on a deer just to see how it would do ,we were a little afraid the super deer  would be to much for the .50 but with proper bullet placement and a steady hold it worked just fine.  The shot was gonna be longer but it was getting dark and although we knew he would hit her, just an inch or two left or right we knew we would never find her and she would get away.

   By the way we would have used 2 soda cans there was enough room but we only had the one.  Heck of a coaster don't you think?

   Well dang guys,didn't mean to step on your toes , but I can see what you mean. So to all the soccer moms on here I'm truely sorry. He usally hunts with a 25-06. This was a test on a bullet,ya know like they do with goats for law enforcement bullets.  Just thought ya might be interested. Oh I suppose the thread on artopies of the kill  is gruesom to so maybe we should pull that. 

   Hey Tash,ya better pull this one I guess I did a NO NO.

  Hey Mike I'll ask his wife for ya.

  There I removed the pictures for ya we'll leave the rest to Tash and Tex.  Sorry for the nightmare.   

I'm curious how it's any less sporting to use a .50 on a deer then anything else?  I mean, there's no question the power's not necessary, but really, what's the issue here?  If all principles that we hunters hold important are observed, what fuel could there possibly be for anyone to complain?  Hurting the animal?  Please.  No matter what you're shooting, the experience for the deer is not going to be pleasant.  And if the shot from anything does not kill instantly, I'd imagine "pain free" is not how deer would describe things, if they could speak.  From a humane standpoint, if the animal went down instantly or even ran for a couple yards, that's no different a reaction then if it were hit by something smaller.  From the humane perspective, I don't see what it matters whether a deer was hit with a 750 gr. A-Max, 300 gr. Partition or 100 gr. Ballistic Tip.  Clean kill = clean kill.  Period.  From the looks of bullet placement, meat damage would be minimal, if any.  A classic, behind the shoulder, lung hit.  Something we all look for.  No issue there.  As far as I'm concerned, the only issue here is being fully aware off what's on the other side of the animal, cause obviously, there will be complete penetration.  If this is considered and care is taken with this respect, I don't see an issue.  I repeat, BMG power at 80 yds. is NOT necessary.  I can't say as I've ever heard anyone trundle their heavy weight rifle so chambered into the field just to shoot game at 80 yds.  BUT, that's not the issue.  Issue is, we get so afraid of the "antis" that we allow them to tell us what we can and can not hunt with, it'll be real short order before they move right on down the list, wanting to stop us from hunting deer with 300 gr. bullets, then 250 gr. bullets, then 180's, and so on and so on.  All because we're hurting the deer    .  Come on.    There is NO fuel here for the anti's.  None.  Please, tell me this is not that big of an issue.

Put the damn picture back up.  I posted a pic of an antelope shot back in 2002 that was more bloody and visually unappealing then this stinking BMG hit deer.  And that thing was hit with the tiny .264 WinMag.  You did nothing wrong in posting the pic, TIKKA.  Especially here.  This IS the forum for it.  More then anything, you showed folks that yes, there are other uses for the BMG then the ones the "anti's" drum up in their efforts to villianise it.  Law abiding folks can actually "hunt" with them, safely and humanely, if they so choose    .  >>  klallen    

Tikka put the picture back.

I totally agree with klallen's points.There is no such thing as overkill and death is death.

Everyone is so bloody scared of PETA(they have even managed to get out industry thinking of banning mulsing sheep because its barbaric).

I can see no reason to stop posting photos like the one that was above.I hear people bitch on this and other forums about people using 223's on deer and being under gunned,well that bloke wasn't under gunned.

Get some balls people and don't be so bloody petrified all the time.

Macca

   OK I have elected to put one picture up and omit the one with the soda can.

   Let me let you all in on this,my buddy is probaly one of the nicest people I know not to mention one of the best hunters I know. This was a one time shot that he had been wanting to do for a few years and test this load. He set up where he could shoot a very long ways but no deer came out till right at dark. If you have ever lugged a 38 lb rifle into the woods and up into a tree house,set up a platform and then take it back out,belive me you would do it once. This is a one time shot and it spends the rest of the time at .50 cal meets.

  Just for the record he likes his , 25-06 and 30-378wm for the bigger stuff such as trips to Alaska.

Okay Jay,I see where your going with the 50 arguement.I just hate the way we went like lambs to the slaughter down here.It's become so politically correct we have to wash the blood off whatever we shoot so they can put it in the hunting magazines.I just hate that sort of bullshit.

I'll be honest though,I'd rather see a guy use a 50 and kill it then use any other caliber and wound it.Our greenies love to find a wounded animal,or duck for that matter,to hammer us around the head.

In our premier deer hunting state they set minium calibers for each species of deer and usually recommend bigger is better(like 375H&H for sambar) for a more humane kill,so they would think that bloke did a good job.

Rob,I just have one question,who determines what is the right caliber for each species???

Macca