Sit, Stalk, Drive or all three

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   Was thinkin about the last "Hunting" thread we had on Long range hunting and finally had one of them ah-piff-inny things.  
  Each type of hunting requires a certain set of knowledge, skill, patients, and dedication.  It isn't being the best at any one skill that makes us a good hunter, it's being able to use all of them, and going beyond one style.  It's when you mix the three to overcome tuff conditions that you are the greatest hunter.  
Alone by each right you can be the best LR, Sitting (calling and such), Stalker, or drive type hunter.  However a hunter that has mastered more of these can out hunt a guy who's only tried and suceeded at one.  
I'm gonna start thinkin of the skill involved in each - bow hunting is a great example - knowing where in the woods, and then where on the trail to set up to get you into range (knowledge).  Bow proficiency, scent control, controling when you move (Skill).  blah, blah, blah, .....
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Spot shooter Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Left BSB in Disgrace Banned Joined: 19 June 2003 Location: Bahrain Status: Offline Points: 0	Topic: Sit, Stalk, Drive or all three Posted: 02 August 2003 at 09:51
	Was thinkin about the last "Hunting" thread we had on Long range hunting and finally had one of them ah-piff-inny things. Each type of hunting requires a certain set of knowledge, skill, patients, and dedication. It isn't being the best at any one skill that makes us a good hunter, it's being able to use all of them, and going beyond one style. It's when you mix the three to overcome tuff conditions that you are the greatest hunter. Alone by each right you can be the best LR, Sitting (calling and such), Stalker, or drive type hunter. However a hunter that has mastered more of these can out hunt a guy who's only tried and suceeded at one. I'm gonna start thinkin of the skill involved in each - bow hunting is a great example - knowing where in the woods, and then where on the trail to set up to get you into range (knowledge). Bow proficiency, scent control, controling when you move (Skill). blah, blah, blah, ..... Spot

dakotasin Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Administrator a TRUE brother-in-arms! Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4099	Posted: 02 August 2003 at 12:00
	right. and to expound on that a little, it is knowing your area and putting in the time to know the animals and their habits a little. if you know your area and animals, you can start by trying to pull off an ambush (intensely fun), and then resort to another method... stalking is probably the hardest to master because we (as most humans, me specifically) don't spend enough time in 'it' w/ the animals - to be able to move about freely and undetected, and catch that buck in his bed. when i hunt, it is generally just 'hunting', which means i'll use whatever method is most suitable for the circumstances. most of the time this is an 'ambush' style. a lot of it is spotting and stalking, very little drive hunting, but it does happen (usually as a last resort, and usually gets me nothing, which reminds me why i don't do it very often).
	Hunting is not a matter of life or death; it is much more important than that.

waksupi Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby aka Keeper of the Old Traditions Joined: 11 June 2003 Status: Offline Points: 2371	Posted: 02 August 2003 at 18:37
	I prefer still hunting myself. I move slower than the rocks on the ground while hunting whitetail. And I see a lot of deer. I put this down to spending a great amount of time in the woods, and being able to observe deer behavior pretty much every day here on my property. I learn how they move, what alerts them, and how they use the terrain. I also put these to use occasionally when doing a mornig or evening stand, but generally like moving slowly through the woods. When hunting elk, i move fast, and cove a lot of ground until I strike fresh sign, and then drop down to whitetail speed. I've killed both elk, and bucks in thier beds at close range. You gotta be a pretty good Injun to do that. ( Thank you, Chief Dan George, in Outlaw Josey Wales) I'm off in the morning for a month in Alberta on a friends ranch, and have high hopes of some good scouting on his big pet whitetails.

Spot shooter Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Left BSB in Disgrace Banned Joined: 19 June 2003 Location: Bahrain Status: Offline Points: 0	Posted: 03 August 2003 at 02:28
	Waksupi, Were did you learn to still hunt, I'm still tryin to perfect my stalk. I haven't been able to spot one in there bed but I can walk slow and quiet enough to spot plenty of moving deer? Any tips you could pass along would be appreciated. I think my real problem is a lean heavily on my ambush method cause it never fails for me. Dakota, Don't know how I missed that detail, it's bigger then all the rest put together. One of the things I had to learn the hard way was to be able to read the land, and sign to tell where the deer were going. That and knowing where to look for them. Last year I was hunting with my Dad in the Allegany's of NY. They (the camp) had never been able to figuire out the deer patterns due to the heavy amount of woods and very few feilds. Now I did a stint of 12 years in the military and have had 7 Major moves that required me to hunt new ground. When I went back I figured it out in 2 days - none of them beleived me till I started kicken up deer every day. I was always envious of guy's who could do that, now it's time that gets me. And maybe the lack of still hunting skills - didn't kill any of them I jumped. Spot

waksupi Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby aka Keeper of the Old Traditions Joined: 11 June 2003 Status: Offline Points: 2371	Posted: 03 August 2003 at 03:52
	spot Shooter - It is mainly time spent in the woods. I move extremely slow, maybe only covering a few hundred yards on a hunt. Use your binoculars constantly. Most hunters don't have the opportunity to spend the time in the woods, and so think it's imperative to cover as much ground as possible. I catch myself going too fast the first couple times I'm out during the season, I guess its' the "beat the other guy to the game" syndrome, although I usually hunt where there are no other people around. human nature, I guess. Gone til September

Low Wall Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .22 LongRifle Joined: 20 June 2003 Status: Offline Points: 20	Posted: 04 August 2003 at 23:08
	Still huntin was what you do after huntin and not getting a deer. Your still huntin. I am to noisy and impatient and need to slow down. Have gotten to the point where I get close and the frighten deer but the deer always see me first. Its fun