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    Posted: 30 June 2003 at 13:58
Good reasons to use a fatter bullet.....barrel age?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 June 2003 at 15:37

For cast bullet shooting, you want a bullet one to two thousandths over bore size. For a revolver, the easiest way to check proper size is to push a bullet through each cylinder. There should be definite resistance, and hopefully the same on each one. Try a new bullet in each, not the same one each time.

Next thing to hope, is the barrel matches the cylinder size. If it is smaller, it will shoot well. If larger, it is going to lead, and will not be accurate most likely. Sometimes this can be solved by using a softer bullet that will bump up properly.

Most commercial companies sell bullets that are WAY too hard for pistol velocities. Beware of those advertising hard cast pistol bullets. They are for those who don't understand the charecteristics of cast bullet shooting, particularly in pistol. For pistol, air cooled wheel weight alloy will handle pretty much any application. These will be around 11-14 Brinell, and are plenty for loads up to around 15-1600 fps. generally, assuming a decent lube. Pistols don't require a high quality lube for the velocities we deal with. For something like a .38 Special, pure lead will work well. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 June 2003 at 17:01
Ditto to what waksupi says. You didn't mention if these would be used
in a rifle or handgun. Rifle should be as close to throat size as possible.
You can slug the throat, similarly to slugging a barrel, or load a dummy round
with the bullet size you want/hope for and see if it chambers freely. Too large a
diameter and the cartridge will require some force to chamber. Not a good thing, generally.
Revolvers work justr as waksupi told you. Bullet diameter should just match, or be slightly
larger than the cylinder throats.     
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 July 2003 at 03:43
The .430 300 grainers shoot real hard with 19 grains of H110.  This revolver has a 3" barrel.  Got a good blister on the heel of my palm after only 25 rounds.  Seems accurate enough, but I was wondering if I wasn't too big.  Guess I'll cut the charge to see what happens.  These are "hard cast" bullets, an'  I want the rounds hot but manageable in double action mode.  Thanks.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 July 2003 at 08:03

Mule, I played around for about a year with a 3 1/2 inch barrel Smith Mountain gun tryimg to find a load that I could shoot reasonable well in DA. Truth being that I could not find a decent charge behind a good bullet that did not tear my hand up after 10 rds. A fellow can't get proficent with those quantities and I didn't see myself using DA while hunting. Presonal defense against humans and the .44 Special will do the same job. So I sold the Smith and bought a Ruger Blackhawk in 44 mag stainless, 4 5/8 barrel. It rides well when mounted on the my mule, amd I can shoot 40-60 rounds of some fairly heavy stuff  accurately, and still have my hand in using condition when done. I have used .429 and .430 bullets in it and haven't seen that much of a differnce at 25 yds with a rest. I figure a 3" group of 6 shots will do anything I need to do.

 

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