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Rob1
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Topic: ATV’sPosted: 03 January 2004 at 15:22 |
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I just moved and have shoveled more snow in the past two weeks than I have in the past ten years. Snow plows seem to miss my road and I have a longish driveway. So I bit the bullet and am seriously considering a ATV and plow. I think it will also be fun in the summer to fish with and ride mtn roads. I hate seeing ATV's when I'm hunting, at least those that think they can make their own roads. If they are responsible, thats fine because then I don't see them where I hunt. I've half avoided them just because of some of the idiots I see tearing up the Mtn's. But I must say what a freaking blast! I'm looking at the Kawasaki 700 twin and it flat hauls ass
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Posted: 03 January 2004 at 15:25 |
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uh oh! there goes the neighborhood!!!
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Dave Skinner
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Posted: 03 January 2004 at 21:15 |
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You'll get more than THAT out of it, that is, if you maintain it. My mighty KZ 750 E has 68,000 miles on it and I run it hard (that is, when it ain't in the back of the van being hauled to a good road). It's 22 or 23 years old and it'll still stuff squids into the weeds. Point is, motor toys have been reliable for a long time just so long as they are maintained. It's not like back in the 1970s when leaks, breaks, metal fatigue and all that was part of the deal. Keep it lubed, pay attention to the noises it makes, and it'll go forever. |
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NH_Hunter
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Posted: 04 January 2004 at 02:25 |
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I love our Honda Foreman 400. Nice looking, easy to drive. Can go fast
. ATV's are just a blast.
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Posted: 04 January 2004 at 03:00 |
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Say "I will ALWAYS ride responsible" three times. Then get it. Please don't try that "I need a snow plow" shit on us, that stuff is reserved for wives. And with your wife having a grad degree I wouldn't try it. better to say you won it in a raffle or say you are keeping it for a buddy (who later dies). Except for Chickee we are all guys and know exactly why you want it. My dirt bike is a Kaw and it runs for ever. The 700 is WAY more than you need. Have you looked at the Polaris? BEAR |
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Posted: 04 January 2004 at 03:30 |
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I think it's a great idea and you should get one...
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Posted: 04 January 2004 at 04:09 |
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Fella's; Here we go again with the internet rumors & fabrications. An excellent example of which exists above. Sorta quote: "My (unbelievable adjective) KZ 750 E has 68,000 miles on it and I run it hard". I do believe he runs it hard, after all, you oughta hear what his girl friends say about him. But ----- mighty ------ as applied to a two-valve 750? Puh-leeze! Of course, my Honda isn't running at all at the moment, so I'm not gonna call it mighty either. And since my last girl friend turned into my wife, 33 years ago, and the term mighty applied to me would cause her to laugh herself to death, I won't do that. Besides, I'd have to take up racing again to find another pit tootsie. That could be a chore at my age. And I'm getting lazy. And the present day pit tootsies would also laugh. Maybe I'll go buy an ATV too. 900F |
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Posted: 04 January 2004 at 04:14 |
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cb900, You've got to see the movie "Somethings got to give" BEAR |
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Rob1
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Posted: 04 January 2004 at 06:06 |
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It actually really did all start with the snow. But of course there is more to it than that I did look carefully at all of them and narrowed it down to Polaris and the Kawasaki. It is a tough choice, the polaris is a good 140#'s heavier. It's probably a better untility vehicle, the Kawasaki being a better sport. It has a lower center of gravity and handles better. I won't be doing any serious off road rock climbing so I won't miss the extra two inches of clearance. Mostly sticking to existing mtn roads. I also looked at various boards and consumer reports and the Polaris seemed to have a higher incidence of breakdowns. And did I say the Kawasaki really hauls butt |
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Posted: 04 January 2004 at 06:40 |
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Except for Honda, I've found most of the Jap dealers are terrible, including Yamaha and Kaw. I don't understand why 'cause they make very well designed equipment and build it well. The dealer doesn't seem to have any long term reason to care what happens after you buy. I even think they hope you can't get it to run right; so when it goes on the secondary market it doesn't take a sale away from him. I just can't figure it. Maybe the same reason the dealer didn't offer the extended warranty. he doesn't want to get involved with fixing the stuff after it leaves his shop????? At the price of the machine you are looking at you would think the dealer would have suggested the extra warranty. Lots of shops have the seervice department owned by a separate guy, so the selling showroom guy doesn't care. the large Kaw dealer close to me has contract independent guys do all the serevice. You never know who you are getting and they 'kids' seldom have any 'factory training'. I always buy the OEM shop manual and the Haynes manual when i get vehicles. When some thing breaks you need the info NOW. have them ahead of time. I also do my own maintance, so I get to know the equipment and can see some thing before it breaks really bad. I guess the 'seasonal' nature of the business makes for poor support. Come to think of it outboard moters have the identical same dealer problems. I also find that dealers that carry multiple brands (honda/Yamaha) usually favor one brand over the other and support that one better. They change the secondary brand from year to year and you may not have the support you need. re the Polaris and the extra 140# of beef. That would only make the bike last longer. Who cares; the lighter vehicle and the extra HP will get you there a lot faster. Have fun; toes up. BEAR
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Rob1
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Posted: 04 January 2004 at 08:37 |
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The dealer is probably small compared to many. They have been in business for a long time with the same owners and a in house,trained tech. A small town kind of place which is why I chose them. I will be interested in getting the scoop on the warranty. I generally find extended warrantys on most products to be a scam, but think it might be a good thing on a atv. It was real hard to choose between the Polaris and Kaw, the dealer carrys both and I couldn't get him to reccomend one over the other. I also will do most of the maintance and I'm set up to do about anything assuming I want/can do it. Hopefully I won't be doing any major repairs anytime soon.
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Posted: 04 January 2004 at 09:04 |
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Rob, I doubt you will need any repairs, just adjustments. it is nice if the extended warranty includes maintance for the first 36 months, things like chain/belt/linkage adjustments plugs and gearbox fluid changes. One reason I sort of like the Polaris is I really don't like the quality of the nuts and bolts on the Japanese bikes. The designs are great, and the tolerances are fine. But the nuts and bolts hardware are soft even with the factory wrenches. If this guy has both brands and factory a certified mechanic, sounds like you got a good guy to buy from. I guess he can't recommend or he would have to carry only one brand. Both sound great, but the Kaw is the speedster.....................go for it. BEAR |
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Posted: 04 January 2004 at 11:20 |
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And take the muffler off and drive it to mules place before he leaves, just to see if you draw "fire"..........LOL Get it Rob and have a ball. I'm sure that you're responsible enough to handle it............Kingpin
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Posted: 04 January 2004 at 12:21 |
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Rob; Are you looking at the dealer in G.F.? I can talk to you about that dealership from personal experience. Others in the area I don't know about. 900F |
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Rob1
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Posted: 04 January 2004 at 12:34 |
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CB I'm speaking of the Helena dealer. I'm not familiar with any of the Great Falls people. |
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2Bits
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Posted: 30 November 2004 at 08:57 |
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Well, we have a Foreman 450 ES model (electric shift) however I am buying another ATV and that is going to be strictly MANUAL shifting. We have had to many problems with the so called ELECTRIC SHIFT model on this 450 ES. HONDA "LOST OUT" in the big shoot out of ATV's once again this year because of their "electric shift" NOT being dependable enough to compete against the others entered in the Shoot Out! If your battery is LOW on this model, it will NOT shift your gears etc. A word about pushing lots of snow with your ATV!........DON'T!!! They won't last long doing this kind of work and you will end up with big repair bills before spring comes rolling around. It is cheaper to buy a small 8N tractor and blade if you have a lot of snow pushing to do. I use a 75HP Diesel Tractor with a front loader to clean off my road and drive way. I save the ATV for FUN THINGS in the woods. Edited by 2Bits |
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Posted: 30 November 2004 at 09:25 |
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I have a Honda Four Trax 250, 1985. This was the first year of the 4-wheeler after all the law suits from the 3-wheeler era. Mine runs perfect except for being very cold blooded. I have to kick start it in the winter the first start of the day then I can use the electric start. It uses no oil and it plows my driveway which is about 250 yards long. I have a tractor that I use if we get a foot or more but anything less and the atv is so much easier and faster. The thing is only 2-wheel drive and I don't use tire chains just alot of ballast on the rear rack. As for the Kaw my buddy has a 2002 650 Prairie and as you say "it's a freaking blast". The thing I like the most is the solid rear axle. It launches and slides the rear end so much better than the independant rears, they just can't keep up in the tight turns and accelerating out of them. The independants have a better ride but are not in the same class if you ride aggressively. A note on the maint. the Kaw needs a new drive belt at least once a year and they are $75-80. The Polaris doesn't go through belts like that but it doesn't perform like the Kaw either. DD |
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Rob1
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Posted: 30 November 2004 at 15:18 |
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We don't a lot of huge dumps of snow in a given winter so I don't think it'll get too much abuse. I didn't get out as much over the summer as I'd of liked. Just to busy. Hope to change that this coming summer. I agree 100% on the solid rear axle. In two wheel drive and with the amount of power it handles more like a sport quad but with the benefit of four wheel drive and racks to hual stuff.
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Posted: 22 November 2005 at 04:23 |
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have a polaris 800 EFI and i love it!! the latest toe to toe test puts it ahead of the Bombardier.
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Posted: 22 November 2005 at 09:26 |
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Rob1. We probably get alot more snow and some deeper ones here. A few neigbors have them with plows, but they won't plow very much, maybe 6-8" deep, and if it's packed or wet, not even that. The problem is that they are just not heavy enough and sit there and spin. I have a big Yardman 36" blower and an old Ford 9N tractor, Sometimes I have to just use the bucket on the tractor to move the snow. It would be neat if the ATV has some sort of PTO on it to drive a blower. |
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