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    Posted: 03 July 2008 at 10:15

I had a guy ask me to shoot on a trap league and jumped at it. I have not been able to with my previous job but now I have all shorts of time. I haven't shot a round of trap in ten years but didn't think much of it. I dusted off the 'ol Sig SA3 12ga and patterned it with a few different loads and chokes and settled on a full choke and 1oz of 8.5 shot in AA hulls with 23gr Unique and Win 209's. I wanted to use my 28ga but I couldn't get the crimp to work on my Mec to my satisfaction. Well I showed up at the range last night all ready to make black clouds. Missed the first one then settled in and hit about 15 in a row then missed the last two. Ended up with a 19. Not the 23 I was hoping for but it had been ten years... So next round oh my the next round I fell apart like never before. I shot the worst round of my life! Worse than my first round thirty some years ago when I was in 5th grade. 9 single digit 9. A number that will live in infamy. I took off my old vest to hide my "200 straight" patch. It was just practice and I start league next week. Any pointers? I think I was shooting over them all. I was using the top barrel and I recall using the bottom before but the bottom was more than 60% below the centerline on my pattern tests.

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Deaddog;

It's obvious you need to try it left handed.  After all, whattaya got to lose?

Paybacks are what?

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I figure behind the back looking through a mirror left handed would still get me what I had the other night?

 

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Deaddog, Don't forget the follow through and for Christ's sake stop picking your head up to see if you hit the bird.   RD
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It's been a long time since I shot trap, 25 yrs or so. But I think RD hit the nail on the head.  If you're shooting high you lifting you head, the more you miss, the better picture you want, the farther you head lifts.

I don't know what you're calling full choke, but if it's what, I would call full, I'd drop back to mod or imp mod.  Unless you are shooting with a high handicap, you shouldn't need much more than imp cylinder or a light mod.

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I'll let you guys know how it goes next week. I'm thinking of getting a little piece of velcro to help keep my cheek stick to the stock.

 

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I can always tell when I've lifted my head because my barrel makes a tiny little circular motion around the bird just after I've pulled the trigger. I don't know why I lift my head or why the little motion but I do know when I see it that it's a lost bird before the shot even gets there.  RD
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well fellas I am gonna throw my 2 cents worth in here, I try my best to stay with the target till I see it break over the end of the barrel (where can I get thet velcro kit?)

CB I am a right handed shooter, left eyed dominate eye crossed idiot  I tried a round lefty last week, broke 20 outta 25, most awckward thing I have done in a long time.

practice tomorrow and ATA shoot Sunday

 

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I left the Sig at home this week and drug out the Red Label 28ga. Did a pair of 19's with the bottom barrel and Mod choke. I have lowered my expectations so I'm much happier. I only made two REAL bad shots the rest were close. I just have a lot more confidence with the 28 and it's easier to keep my head down with the less intense push. I got my Mec 9000 to crimp and my load was 3/4oz 8.5's over 13.1 Unique with AA wad's and Hulls and Win 209 primer.

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I agree with Rocky.

also get rid of the full choke on the 12 if you are shooting 16 yard birds...modified.  Also ask your self if you are shooting too soon or too late.  being out you are probably not picking up those target as soon as you use to do.  shooting late tends bring stopping when you do get to the bird.

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Deaddog its been a couple of weeks since you started this thread, hows it going now?

since I started back up I have found it aint as easy as it was 30 years ago, I am having to work much harder and there is more frustration now.

I am doing OK on singles shooting 24's and 25's most of the time and winning some, not always but enough to satisfy.

My handicap is what I am focused on now and working on my doubles game, I have never shot allot of doubles but I can now shoot in the mid 80's.

several of the other shooters are wanting to form a league but no one has done it so we don't really know how to go about it, got any suggestions?

Break em all

 

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Well...I'm still plugging along with 17-19's. I found my lead on the right angle birds to the right from position five but am having trouble with the straight aways from positions 2&4.  I think I'm under them. I haven't even considered handicap, 16yds is enough for me at this time. The 16 year old girl shooting next to me dropped bird #22 she sure was on pace for 25 straight. All of them were just smoked, no chips. The mental miss like that is hard to take. I felt bad for her and see I have a long long way to go to shoot a 25 again.

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Deaddog, Keep shootin, you'll get there. I have trouble with those on 2 and 4 too. Sometimes I realize that they are not quite as straight away as they seem and I'll shoot about a foot to either side. For true straight aways I start with a hold on the top of the trap house and swing up through them on the rise. When they disappear behind the bead on the upswing I mash the trigger. My starting holds are about 2 feet outside the trap house from 1 and 5 (on their respective sides) About a foot inside the corner at the very top of the house on 2 and 4 and dead center on the top of the house from 3. I once shot at a range whose house was 2 feet wider than normal with the trap offset by the 2 feet. They built it for bird storage along one side. Talk about messing with your head....RD

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I did get a good tip that seems to be working for me. Instead of holding on the middle of the trap house at position three I hold just to the right of center. It lets me pick up the bird just a little faster as I hold just above the house and now don't cover the bird as it leaves the house.

 

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Hehehe I am glad I am not the only one having trouble with them little slight angle floaters, I read them as straight away and shoot behind them every time or more than I care to see on my score sheet.

My trap gun shoots a 100% high with the way I hold it and I always float the target about six inches above the front bead so I always have a low hold on the traphouse, I hold on the corners on one and five, halfway in on two and four and dead center on three.

Keep working on your fundamentals it will come back to you and you will be breaking em all soon

 

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I shot three rounds instead of two this week. 17,17,16. At leat I'm consistantly bad. My brother-in-law came over this week and wanted to try out my Mec 9000G. Sure, free labour I thought? He short srtoked it on the first pull and sent hundreds of little #8.5 pellets everywhere! I didn't have time to clean up the mess so I used some #7.5's  I already had loaded for league instead. Still using the 28ga. I can say that the #7.5's seem to hit harder but my scores were down by about a bird a round. They were also loaded at 1300fps while my 8.5's are at 1200.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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9000's are a pain to clean up after a shot spill, keep saying pull and breaking targets, I have an ATA round tomorrow, details to follow if I dont embarress myself.

 

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Well I've finished my 300 round summer league. I never did get my Mec 9000G back up and running. Just haven't had the time to tear it apart. Since I shot 75 the last time out  I only had to shoot 25 on my last night, and that's what I did! I dusted off my old Model 25 Winchester 12ga and proceded to smoke em. My team mates all asked why I didn't use that for the whole season. It did feel good, real good. But my plan is for sticking with the 28 next year too, so far.

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Congrats on the 25 straight. If you need advice on getting the 9000G up and running you can just call MEC. They'll give you tips on crimping adjustments and help you troubleshoot right over the phone. Sometimes they send parts for free or have even sent me parts with a bill rather than waiting for my check to get there! RD
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well guys I am gonna try to do something I have always wanted to do, I am going to get my 1000 registered targets in this next year and go to the Grand, I got bumped from a D class shooter to a B last weekend, I ask the ATA guy what happened to C class and was told I was very lucky to be only in B as I was one target short of being in A class and he considered putting me in A due to "Known Ability" I had to look that one up in ATA rules,

My Handicap is coming along OK, breaking low 90's pretty much all the time.

 

I suck at doubles, my O/U does not fit me well after I started using my BT 100 thats all adjustable, I have checked into the cost of the stock work and its about 600 bucks to have the comb cut and a Bump Buster recoil system, not sure I want to put that much into an older Citori.

What I think I want to do is invest in a new Browning Cynergy Combo but the cost of the divorce may not be worth it.

DD congrats on the 25, I admire you shooting with a 28ga, do you just like the gun or enjoy the challenge?

Smoke em ALL!

 

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