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T.T.U.
.30/06 SpringField
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Topic: Bait Cast ReelsPosted: 20 March 2005 at 18:18 |
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Are they any good? I never used one but was thinking about buying one
but didnt know what to buy or how good they are. Just like some info
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TasunkaWitko
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Posted: 20 March 2005 at 18:29 |
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grant -
baitcast reels are supposed to be THE thing if fishing for bass or northern pike. i've never used them, but they ahve great reputations. if i remember correctly, the real problem used to be backlashing, or the reel spilling line out all over the place because it was spinning faster than the line could come off, but i believe that they have corrected that problem in recent years. i use spincast reels (zebco 33 and 404), which work very well. never have had much luck with the open faces. if you have never used these, you might want to give them a try. less expensive and very effective, and lucky for me, very easy to use!
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Widux
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Posted: 21 March 2005 at 00:40 |
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I moved to Wisc in 98 after 25 in AK where we used trolling reels for salmon or open bail reels for river fishing- so i was used to thinking of bait caster reels as the old black lashing pieces of junk I saw in the 60's- no no- started using newer ones and they work great for bass- about all I use for them now and not the NEW $400 ones- i have 6 now and 4 are Quantums at about $70--hooked up with rapala rods some med some Med Hvy for different lures/conditions they work great and those rods are onlt 30 or so bucks. Istill use open face reels for walleyes but the bait casters with new super braids that don't stretch like mono work greatfor bass etc. casting. flippin, and pitchin. |
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mr mom
.30/06 SpringField
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Posted: 21 March 2005 at 01:14 |
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t.t.u.: me and the kids all use level lines for bass and pike. 1 thing is you have to use a heavy lure. spinner baits or a heavy plug. stuff like rapalas dont work unless you use the sinking kind. when looking for a reel you need to get 1 with ball berriens and a magnetic pick up. you set this to help the spool. you have to adjust this befor you cast each diffrent lure. but you still have to thumb it when you cast.
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Posted: 21 March 2005 at 01:58 |
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When I was a kid I had a "ocean city" bait caster. Terrible. I when to a Zebco 33 and fish lots more and untangled never. When I got to be about 25 wanted more sophistication and bought a Mitchell 300. Still fishing it. I've had a number of bait casting reels since, carbon drags, ball bearings and all the whistles. They need constant attention, and as Mr M said you need to adjust the friction cast mechanism for ever different lure. Southern Bass fishermen still use them all the time. They also re-fight the civil war all the time. I see no value in them for casting. On my boat I have 8 level wind (casting type ) reels, all Penns and all saltwater sizes. I use them for trolling: salmon, muskies, trout, and walleyes. I love them because they don't twist the line as spinning reels do when the drag is used. BEAR |
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T.T.U.
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Posted: 21 March 2005 at 05:10 |
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Dang i didnt expect that information but thanks a bunch. Ill have to
look into all this stuff. I just use basic stuff and that could be the
reason sometimes i dont catch that much. Thanks again
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TasunkaWitko
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Posted: 21 March 2005 at 08:36 |
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this is jsut an opinion, but i can't see that your reel would have too much to do with it.
post some of the problems you are having and what you're trying to catch, where, what you're using, and all that. let's see if we can balance the scales here at BSB between hunting, shooting AND fishing!!!! ![]() |
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Posted: 21 March 2005 at 09:07 |
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Tas, LOL, when did a reel type catch more fish than another reel type????? A handline has caught more fish than any reel or rod combo. BEAR |
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T.T.U.
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Posted: 21 March 2005 at 13:00 |
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Well today we fished for anything that would bite and didnt catch
anything. We used worms, ruster tails, and a floating jig. Then we went
to a dam and cought our first fish of the year witch was rainbow
trought. Never cought any before but it was fun. But basically I need
to learne how to catch crappie.
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drinksgin
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Posted: 21 March 2005 at 13:10 |
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TTU;
Just two basic rules for crappie, first, find them, second, feed them shiners! Don
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bkcorris
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Posted: 21 March 2005 at 13:31 |
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I personally prefer open faced spinning reels, Shimano to be specific.
I have a few but my favorite is a 150 on an ultralite, it's cought
everything from baby minnows up to a 32" Northern. It's getting to be
about 15 years old now and is getting loose, LOTS of use and abuse
though. I also love Fireline or spiderwire, its strong and durable,
I've had the same line on that real for 4 years I think, juat strip off
10 yards a year or so and more if you notice small tears or abrasions.
Maybe I'll change it this year finally.
As to the direct question, I do have a Daiwa Black Widow baitcast that I like, but don't use it too much. I prefer light lures for 95% of my fishing so the style doesn't fit me well. I do use it for cats or carp though, nice and beefy, I actually keep 25# line on it just for that. They aren't something most people can just pick up and master, but once you get use to them they work great. It wouldn't hurt to try one out, I can't think of any particulars to try other than stay with a decent less expensive one to start with and I'd prefer a lighter model for normal everyday fishing. I have found that mono seems to work better than low memory lines, as far as tangles go anyway. |
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Posted: 21 March 2005 at 14:09 |
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i think my problem is finding them lol everyone tells me where to go but i cant seem to catch any
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Posted: 21 March 2005 at 14:16 |
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i got some stuff on crappies, even though i've never caught one. let me
review my literatue, and i will post some info on the CRAPPIE topic
that was started a couple of days ago!
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Posted: 21 March 2005 at 15:18 |
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Again I'm new to the forum, but do know a little about bait casting reals. It's all salt water use though and might not apply to well. I use them quite a bit , they're great for surf casting, they tend to cast further, for two reason. One the spool revolves allot faster than line can unravel of off a spinning real, second there is less line friction on the rod eyes since bait casting rods typically use small eyes. we also use them quite a bit for inshore fishing for Red Drum and Flounder, the free spool is easy to engage when a fish hits and you want to give him line and time to chew. They are also easier to control your cast and stop it where you want it to. and as Bear mentioned there is no line twist if you have new fisherman that wants to turn the handle while drag is letting out. you just have to practice and remember to stop the spool from revolving once the lure or bait hits the water.{ with your thumb] And they're just fun to use. Sorry I spotted on. |
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Widux
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Posted: 22 March 2005 at 00:23 |
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TTA ain't nada like BASIC stuff for bassers- hell I now have 7 or 8 rods and reels for them and 6 for walleyes and I'm a piker([un) buddies all have 20 or so rods for bass different weights -lite to hvy action- most reels te same but outfitting is a new experience every year as tackle guys can always keep ahead of us- me I thin kold stuff still works in lures but ne wreels are skookum.
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Moose6
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Posted: 22 March 2005 at 03:57 |
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I use both level wind and spinning reels. Kinda like golf clubs, a different rod for different situations... guess that's why I have 18 of 'em (which is too many really). Anyone want to buy a rod-n-reel?
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Posted: 22 March 2005 at 05:10 |
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I don't like to count guns or reels. Makes me think I should be thinning out. BEAR |
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T.T.U.
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Posted: 22 March 2005 at 05:44 |
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Bear i hate to count them to makes me want to buy more lol
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Murf
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Posted: 15 May 2005 at 11:09 |
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The close face spinners seem the easiest to use but have draw backs. As stated the line will twist horribily if the fisherman reels in against a running fish or even a snag. Secondly the bait casters and open face spinners have much smoother drag sysytems. A running fish has a steady even resisitasnce minus the herky jerky drag on spin cast reels. Spin casts are great though for introducing kids and wives to fishing. One problem with most cheaper bait casters is that to release the line you must depress a button but for a brief split s4cond the line is mechanically locked... no drag ... no slip. Should you be attempting to leta fish take the bait at the same time he is deciding to run it can mean a broken line. What I do when jigging or trolling is to release the line and hold the spool wit my thumb. It is an immediate release or hook setting device and not mechanical. I find I use bait casters more often than other types but then I grew up using the old ones without any drag, real tension adjustment or magnetic anti back lash so it seems natural. |
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Posted: 16 May 2005 at 12:57 |
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TTU, For crappie and perch we use open faced spinning outfits. One trick to use on crappie is chunck up the first on you get for bait. Crappie seem to like crappie meat.
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