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mausermann
.22 LongRifle
Joined: 03 October 2003
Location: United States
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Points: 147
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Posted: 19 May 2004 at 04:46 |
I used the .22 for small game ;til I got my 28 ga. pump,,now the .22 is a target rifle.Now this is going to sound a little puffed-up,but it is the truth.I have a marlin/glenfield mdl. 20,,it was well used and I got it for $30,,after a while I found it LOVED mini-mags,and while playin' with it with a 3-9x32 Simmons,,a gift,,I found that it will shoot into a golfball sized SHOOTNSEE target sticker at 100 all day,,not counting the odd flyer caused by cartridge rim variance,,about 5%.I am goin' to mount a BSA 6-24x40A.O. Contender,,see if I can tighten it up some,and maybe shoot in the stock sporter RF class.To increase the killin' power of the old .22 with-out the grenadeing of the HP's,,the old SG cci's were great,,they use them on head shootin' hogs in La.,,but since they quit makin' 'em,,super glue some oppropreately sized washers together 'til they give you the size melplat you want and file off the nose,,seems to work o.k.
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what if we're all fools and none of it matters??,,and the hokey-pokey IS what it's all about!!!!
Mausermann,,Butte,,Montana.
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Vern Humphrey
.243 Winchester
Joined: 29 November 2003
Location: United States
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Points: 156
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Posted: 19 May 2004 at 08:59 |
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Or you could go with the Hanned Line tool that allows you to accurately file meplats on round-nose .22s
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T.T.U.
.30/06 SpringField
Joined: 01 January 2004
Location: United States
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Points: 451
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Posted: 19 May 2004 at 10:27 |
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i love to use my 10/22 for squirrel so i would consider it as one. I also bust some crows with it
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The good life!!!!
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macca
.416 Rigby
AKA The Thunder From DownUnder
Joined: 10 June 2003
Location: Australia
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Points: 1149
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Posted: 19 May 2004 at 20:50 |
Like king and DFC said it is often used here to drop animals at slaughter time.
I rate it one of the best hunting calibers for fun and technique developement there is.It goes without saying buy an Anshultz.
Macca
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don't let the bastards grind you down.
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deaddog
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*AKA The Flying Gun*
Joined: 23 April 2004
Location: Svalbard
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Points: 991201
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Posted: 20 May 2004 at 03:55 |
Hanned Line tool? I use a side-cutter and a file. I lop off the top of a CCI Blazer($7.95/500) down to where the engagement rings start, then file off the rough edges so they feed better as you can see 1249fps the factory untouched round was 1101fps no need to buy Stingers($3.95/50). The effect on gophers is devastating. We get .50 per tail bounty and can shoot over 40 per day if you try. Accuracy is good out to about 35yds well within gopher range. They do not keyhole. Who says you can't hand load .22's?
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CB900F
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Joined: 10 June 2003
Location: Eritrea
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Points: 8857
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Posted: 05 June 2004 at 16:47 |
Deaddog;
Forty gophers a day? You've got to come see us in Great Falls. If the sun's out & the gophers are up, it's not at all unusual to burn a brick in a day. I don't bother to keep count of the bodies, nobody's paying bounty on them here.
As for the accuracy being good out to 35 yards. Hmmm, not to be disparaging, but that's just not good enough. We normally shoot from 25 to perhaps 125 yards with .22 rimfires. That's not to say that I haven't shot them literally at my feet, but for the most part, your 'out to' is real close to our starting point.
If you'd have trouble bringing a gun along, that's no problem, I've got spares.
900F
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Birth certificate!? He don't need no steenkink birth certificate!!
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Ranch 13
.375 Holland & Holland Magnum
Joined: 02 June 2004
Location: Guernsey
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Points: 657
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Posted: 05 June 2004 at 17:11 |
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I use the 10/22 for the early prairie dog shooting. I have a fair sized town just below one of my windmills, and if I don't get it thinned out this time of year it gets out of control. The 22 is reasonably quiet and doesn't get the town spooked and down the holes like 223 and 243 . Shot about 75 day before yesterday and got a couple dozen today.
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The most expensive bullet there is isn't worth a plug nickel if it don't go where its supposed to.
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deaddog
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Joined: 23 April 2004
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Posted: 05 June 2004 at 18:26 |
CB900,
We drive around and many shots are less than 15'. I like those blunt nosed bullets because we need to stop the gophers from getting back down the hole. If you use just a standard HP too many get away. You need the tail to get paid. We have small rolling hills and they like to hang out just over the crest on the leeward side. The long shots just aren't there. I agree that the .22 is good to well past 100yds on crows and such and would love to see the kind of game you have in MT.
DD
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CB900F
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Posted: 06 June 2004 at 01:25 |
Fella's;
I use Winchester PowerPoints in two of my .22's. It's a 40 gr hp, rather than a 36 gr. It groups very close to the target ammo & really seems to wallop the gophers. The velocity is in the high 1100's if I remember correctly.
The Savage, has to be different, of course. It likes the Federal American Eagle hp's. But, it's my project .22 for the nonce. I suspect I've pretty much reached the limits of the gun without going to expensive extremes. So, it's time for inexpensive extremes. Ah well, keeps me off the streets.
But not for long.
900F
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Birth certificate!? He don't need no steenkink birth certificate!!
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Posted: 06 June 2004 at 02:37 |
When i was in high school, some time ago, we shot the "standard velocity" Remington green bricks. These were pretty close to the accuracy of 'target' loads of the day and a lot cheaper. I also used it on small game because I always think accuracy is more important than velocity. When the high velocity stuff poped up i tried them on small game, and i found I lost accuracy and on squirrels they blew up lots of flesh. On ground hogs (6-14#) they never killed even on head shots the hogs made it to the hole shaking and dizzy. I'm sure those hogs were dead in the den, but the lighter bullets with higher velocity, just didn't anchor like the old std velocity 40 gr stuff.
Years later when my son was hunting small game along with my nephew (two 12 year olds then), they loved the hype of the stingers et al. Remington doesn't seem to make those old std velocity green box anymore. Now for hunting I buy target 22rf I still prefer the extra accuracy to the extra velocity. Old farts don't change, and i only hunt a few boxes of 22rf a year so cost is no problem. If I was hunting range rats and shooting a brick a day, I'd probably give in on a $ issue.
I'm restricted for a few months. BUT me thinks that the doctor and my wife will not notice if I shoot a 22 and 22 rfm. So today I'm trying to hitch a ride to Gander Moountain to get a couple hundred 22rf and rfm.
BEAR
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CB900F
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Posted: 06 June 2004 at 05:05 |
Bear;
Do give the Win PowerPoints a try if they have 'em. I'm paying $14.99 a brick from Mil-Wal at the gun shows here. Probably a buck higher in the store.
When I say they are very close to the target ammo in accuracy, I mean it. Incredibly close to high-buck target accuracy.
900F
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Birth certificate!? He don't need no steenkink birth certificate!!
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Posted: 06 June 2004 at 05:26 |
900f,
I'm on my way to Gander Mountain in 5 minutes, I'll buy a brick on your recommendation.
how is the bike...haven't hear much about your wheels lately?????
My Kawa is in the shed....needs an inspection...but I can't drive it for another 2-3 months. I want my brothers to load it on a trailer and I'll take it to get state inspection so it will be 'ready' when I am.
BEAR
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CB900F
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Posted: 06 June 2004 at 07:42 |
bear;
I'm on the road next Sunday to go pick it up. I'll ride it at least part of the way back. It should be a gas. I'll report when I get home.
We're also going to spend a day at the springs in Thermopolis Wyoming. You are allowed to envy me. Ahhh, a cold beer whilst soaking up the waters & some major bikini watching. Now that's the way to take a break on a long drive.
900F
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Birth certificate!? He don't need no steenkink birth certificate!!
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Adobe Walls
.30/06 SpringField
Joined: 09 August 2003
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Posted: 09 June 2004 at 14:39 |
Yes, the .22 is a real hunting rifle. Actually there have been times when I took more game with a .22 pistol than I did anything else; that might have been opportunity though, more than hunting. A .22 will prove the most useful hunting arm you ever own in the long haul IF you are into mixed bag small game hunting and foraging for the skillet while you work in the woods or on the farm or ranch. Heck, I've even taken small game birds with a .22 rifle once or twice in my more opportunistic youth. They fried up nicely, and guess what? No birdshot to pick out. I don't think I could live in the woods without a .22! AW
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CB900F
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Posted: 09 June 2004 at 15:52 |
Adobe ;
Here in the northern rockies, it's legal to take blues, fool hens, and other grouse with the .22 as well as a shotgun. A dead-nuts accurate .22 is a joy to hunt grouse with. Head shoot 'em.
We frequently hunt in pairs, one with the .22 & the other with a 20 gauge.
The reason it's legal is that it's frequently next to impossible to get the fool hens to fly. It's been known to walk up to one, reach down & pick it up & wring it's neck.
900F
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Posted: 10 June 2004 at 00:37 |
while plowing fields I use to carry a S&W k-22 revolver. Often pheasants would forage in the plowed furrows for bugs. I dropped a lot of ring-necks with that 22. I'd like to say I was shooting them in that ringed white eye. But most were body shots with 40 gr solids, those std vel Remingtons. they would just sit down whne hit. Next pass with the tractor, I'd raise the plows, stop and pick up the bird.
They made a nice dinner.
Sitting grouse i low branches are not real sporting with a 12 guage, but with a 22 rifle or pistol they are a challenge. I do remember shooting at one in a branch of a wild crab-apple about 4 foot of the ground. First shot missed and it stayed. Second shot broke the dead branch and it jumped one branch higher, third slot cut some tail feathers, and it jumped down to abranch about 3 foot high. Fourth shot was a head shot. Practice makes perfect. I've seen grouse hang there tight for long periods. I often thought they were drunk on fermented berries.
BEAR
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Posted: 10 June 2004 at 00:42 |
900f,
couldn't find those 22 rf PowerPoints. So I bought a remington brick. I'll keep looking for the PP. I did check on the win ammo site and read on them, 1280 fps.
BEAR
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CB900F
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Posted: 10 June 2004 at 13:23 |
Bear;
I'm shooting the P-P's outta either my Ruger 77/22 or the Volquartsen. They'll chrono in the high 1100's over the Oehler 35P in my world. Which because I'm either egotistical (wife) or drunk (wife) constitutes the real world for me. Ah hell, if it weren't for tabasco, it'd all be bland.
900F
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Birth certificate!? He don't need no steenkink birth certificate!!
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Huntinbull
.22 LongRifle
Joined: 12 April 2004
Location: United States
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Points: 19
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Posted: 11 June 2004 at 08:25 |
Getting ready for another fun season of squirrels with the 22. Hope all are safe and healthy.
Huntinbull
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Certified Hunter and Trappers Education instructor in Ohio.
Keep your powder dry and your eye on the skyline.
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