Boat Problem Revisited

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   Well the new coils helped some... but the problem was still there.  The mechanic was really ripping his hair out.  He was really trying to find the problem but couldn't find anything.  Then he noticed the bottom cyclinder was flooding out.  How strange.  He had already rebuilt my carbs once, so he looked at them again.  No problem.  Timing was fine.  What in the heck is the problem?  He decided to check the fuel pump.  It looked good too.  Well to heck with this, he called Mercury to get their input.  He walked through the whole breakdown with Merc on the phone.  Merc went through the checklist with my mechanic.  They come down to the fule pump.  The mechanic says that everything looks good.  Then Merc asks about the secondary pulse on the pump...................... the what???  Apparently (and I'm telling y'all this the best I can, I'm gonna have to see it to understand it) the fuel pump gets a primary pulse from the middle cylinder and a secondary from the bottom cylinder.  The seal on the secondary pulse was leaking gas into the bottom cylinder intermitantly.  AH HAAAA!!!!  I think they found it.  $10 for a new fuel pump re-build kit.  Should be finished Wed........ I'll let y'all know how she turns out.  Meanwhile, I'm stuck at home watching T.V. instead of chasing stripers at sunset!!!!

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Moose6 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby AKA The Knoxville NASCAR Nut Joined: 25 July 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2191	Post Options Post Reply Quote Moose6 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Boat Problem Revisited Posted: 28 September 2004 at 00:50
	Well the new coils helped some... but the problem was still there. The mechanic was really ripping his hair out. He was really trying to find the problem but couldn't find anything. Then he noticed the bottom cyclinder was flooding out. How strange. He had already rebuilt my carbs once, so he looked at them again. No problem. Timing was fine. What in the heck is the problem? He decided to check the fuel pump. It looked good too. Well to heck with this, he called Mercury to get their input. He walked through the whole breakdown with Merc on the phone. Merc went through the checklist with my mechanic. They come down to the fule pump. The mechanic says that everything looks good. Then Merc asks about the secondary pulse on the pump...................... the what??? Apparently (and I'm telling y'all this the best I can, I'm gonna have to see it to understand it) the fuel pump gets a primary pulse from the middle cylinder and a secondary from the bottom cylinder. The seal on the secondary pulse was leaking gas into the bottom cylinder intermitantly. AH HAAAA!!!! I think they found it. $10 for a new fuel pump re-build kit. Should be finished Wed........ I'll let y'all know how she turns out. Meanwhile, I'm stuck at home watching T.V. instead of chasing stripers at sunset!!!!
	Y'all shoot straight!!! Moose - Knoxville, TN

mr mom Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .30/06 SpringField Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 342	Post Options Post Reply Quote mr mom Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 September 2004 at 00:57
	moose: someone 1 time said on those big nerc's that when you troll down 1 of the cylenders cut out????
	mr mom

Moose6 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby AKA The Knoxville NASCAR Nut Joined: 25 July 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2191	Post Options Post Reply Quote Moose6 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 September 2004 at 01:29
	What? Can you rephrase that again? I didn't get it.
	Y'all shoot straight!!! Moose - Knoxville, TN

mr mom Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .30/06 SpringField Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 342	Post Options Post Reply Quote mr mom Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 September 2004 at 03:01
	moose: i will try to talk slow???? the bigger motors , like the 60 hp.. i was told when you are going full blast everything is working the way it should. but when you go to troll or run slow that only 1 carb works??? at least thaqt is what i was told 1 time.. i think i got my motor problem fixed. i got some stuff called max 40?? you add it to the gas. i even put some in the truck. i let this stuff sit in the tank for a week and and pumped it into the carbs. it started on the 2 nd pull. try to start a 40 hp with a rope.... man it smoked for about 1/2 an hour, then it smoothed right out and run fine... to bad its time to go hunting......
	mr mom

Moose6 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby AKA The Knoxville NASCAR Nut Joined: 25 July 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2191	Post Options Post Reply Quote Moose6 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 September 2004 at 04:00
	Ahhhhh, now I understand. Hmmm I might try that stuff or Sta-Bul.
	Y'all shoot straight!!! Moose - Knoxville, TN

mr mom Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .30/06 SpringField Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 342	Post Options Post Reply Quote mr mom Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 September 2004 at 04:30
	moose: this stuff is better than sta bal... a buddy has a 60 hp merc. and he was having all sorts of problems and sounds like the same thing you are going threw.. he had the carbs redone. and all the elect. checked out and finealy a guy told him about this stuff and it fixed the problem..... if when i get into town today ill stop and get somemore info on the stuff.. i was telling my brother about it also.....
	mr mom

Moose6 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List .416 Rigby AKA The Knoxville NASCAR Nut Joined: 25 July 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2191	Post Options Post Reply Quote Moose6 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 September 2004 at 01:02
	I have the boat back.... AND IT IS FINALLY FIXED!!!!! (I hope). Goin' out in the next few days (maybe this pm). I'll keep y'all posted on how I do.
	Y'all shoot straight!!! Moose - Knoxville, TN

Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 September 2004 at 01:25
	I had a twin cylinder merc outboard for about 20 years. Always ran great and started at the touch of the key. I always ran the engine out of gas by pulling the fuel line off. the disconnect of fuel let the lines and carbs drain, so that no varnish built up in the engine. I still do that with my big engines at the end of the season. In the south the season slowly closes, so engines don't always get the recommended engine shut-down process. I run a 100 gallon of gas in the tanks so I don't use Sta-Bil any longer. I just top of the tank and put some tape on the vent. I store my boat in the off-season in an underground limestone mine, about 1/2 mile underground, temp stays constant 53 degrees but the humidity is dry. I put it down there Sunday....miss her already BEAR