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cewe
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Posted: 02 July 2007 at 18:28 |
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Hi,
Iīve taken European elk with the 30-06, 8x60S, 9.3x62 and the .375H&H with bullet weights ranging from 180gr up to 300gr -all of them worked nicely. The 9.3x62 has replaced my .375 H&H as my favorite elk gun as it has less recoil. My new pet is an 8x68S which allows me shots out to 350m without correcting for height (sighted in +7cm at 100m). BUT in Finland most elk are taken at distances at under 100m so do I need it? Not really but itīs fun shooting a 187gr bullet at 970m/s from a factiry load (RWS H-mantel) and the recoil is not bad at all. Lotīs of elk in Scandinavia are shot with the good ol 6.5x55 (which is my main deer rifle) so do we need magnums? BUT when has guns been a question of "need"? ![]() |
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TasunkaWitko
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aka The Gipper Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: Chinook Montana Status: Offline Points: 14753 |
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Posted: 03 July 2007 at 04:02 |
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>>>BUT when has guns been a question of "need"?<<<
that's for sure! for myself, i don't ever anticipate wanting or "needing" a magnum, but at the same time, i believe that if someone prefers to use one and takes the time to learn to shoot it well (this is true with any rifle) then they should have the choice to get what they want~ ![]() |
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Muleskinner
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AKA The Crotchety ol Geezer Joined: 13 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 5285 |
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Posted: 03 July 2007 at 12:08 |
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European elk? Ain't that what we call "moose?" |
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CB900F
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Honor, Integrity Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: Eritrea Status: Offline Points: 8857 |
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Posted: 03 July 2007 at 13:13 |
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Fella's; So, Donny why did you sell it? The only acceptable reasons I can immediatly think of are: 1. Move girlfriend out of town before wife finds out about; a. her and b. her pregnancy. 2. Emergency treatment of uriniary tract "infection" before wife and/or girlfriend finds out about it. 3. You saw the light & got rid of the bastard child of the .30-06 for something (anything) much better. Comment?
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Birth certificate!? He don't need no steenkink birth certificate!!
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RayAK
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Joined: 05 January 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 14 |
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Posted: 13 July 2007 at 17:11 |
Donny: I have seen the same done by folks who shoot .30-06's, .270's, etc. at the range. In fact, I have seen folks trying to hit the target for the first time to adjust the scope, without realizing that the scope is loose on the mount. I don't think it matters what caliber the person is using, be it a belted Magnum or not. Some folks just don't know how to handle firearms, nor to shoot them. There was this guy with a bipod clamped on the barrel of his .30-06, and he could not even hit paper at 100 yards. He asked me what I thought the problem was, so I took the bipod off, supported the rifle just between the trigger guard and the fore-end on a sand bag, and shot a nice little group near the center of the target. If you want to see something scary, stop shooting your rifle and move back so you can keep an eye on the other shooters. Just see the things people do when shooting their firearms at the range :) These things have nothing to do with firearm type nor caliber. I also believe that depending on where and what folks hunt, there is a chance to see more Magnum calibers. For example, you will see quite a lot of Magnum rifles' users at the firing ranges of Alaska, not necessarily because they like Magnum rifles, but because in here we really hunt in big bear country. Edited by RayAK |
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Muleskinner
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AKA The Crotchety ol Geezer Joined: 13 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 5285 |
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Posted: 15 July 2007 at 01:32 |
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"Elk" is the scandanavian word for moose. When europeans first ran across wapiti, they used a familar term for a unique animal. Same for bison, which are commonly called "buffalo," an animal that has no relationship to the purely american "bison bison." I don't know where the word "moose" came from, but it must have been confusing as westward expansion progressed, and the real "elk" were discovered to exist, yet the name was already assigned. Maybe that's why elk were so quickly eradicated east of the Mississippi. Too confusing and time consuming in an age when dictionaries were hand written.
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