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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 April 2004 at 17:04
You guys absolutely crack me up. Do me a favor. Everyone print this subject out, and put it away, where you won't find it for another twenty years. Then read it again. You may get the same hoot out of it that I do by that time. No more from me on the subject. There is a hell of a lot of wisdom posted above if you will analyse it, and apply it to real life big game  hunting.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 April 2004 at 17:10
Hey BIG SKY  >>  Curious if ya have an answer to the question I posted above your last comment.  >>  klallen
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 April 2004 at 02:30
klallen, sorry I posted and then shut off the computer last night.  If you look at the top photo you will see some prior shots above my hand, they sort'a form a circle. They weren't painted over when I was shooting. I was aiming for the middle of them. We painted over them for the photo to make the photo less busy looking. I had shot that circle group you see that is painted over, drove down and looked at it. Then drove back and shot three consecutive shots into that tiny group. My spotter told me to quit shooting after my third shot. When I asked why he said, "you have an unbelievable group and we need to go take a photo or two. My spotter is a professional gun writer and long range instructor, he tests more guns and ammo in a year than most guys see in a life time. So when he said he was impressed it made me feel extra good especially considering all the people he shoots with or trains for long range shooting. He does this kind of stuff for a living, me I just like an excuse to go shoot anytime, anywhere.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 April 2004 at 03:06

"If all you are doing is spoiling for a fight waste some one else's time. So now what are you going to do, bet me $100,000.00 that it wasn't 802 yards or that I was using something other than a .308 Winchester? "

Its not my gun or ammo, I didn't take the picture, don't remember what I did yesterday, so don't blame me for not knowing how it happened. LOL.

I could cover that bet, could you?

I would love to take some of your money!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dan



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uh oh - here we go again!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 April 2004 at 03:41

DFC (DeFeCate), hurry post a photo of all your money on that faggoty blanket of yours. Make sure you establish your credibility with stories about your world records and prestigious memberships. Then tell me all about all your guns, dogs, and motorcycles. Then after you finish blowing all your hot air come up with excuses why you can't prove a single thing you claim, just like you did time and again, at 24hourcampfire until you got banned. The only thing you have ever proved to anyone is what a HUGE flake you are.

Now unlike you I happen to personally know some the regulars at this site and at the site you got booted from. It is realistic to think that I will meet several more from this site considering how many of them live in Montana. So don't you think it would be logical if I couldn't do what I claim to do, that someone just might bring that up? Especially after they had met me in person. DFC you hide behind your monitor, my door is always open and anyone that wants to drive over here and spend a day shooting is free to do so. I don't post things I can't back up in person. DeFeCate, I have yet to see you do anything but run your mouth or keyboard as it were. So now I expect you'll come back with some blazing post, but that's all you ever do and it's all you are capable of. I expect you won't post your real name, you won't give an address so anyone could meet you in person, you won't give any physical evidence like photos or references as to where to find verification of the records you claim to hold. You are boring and predictable. So please begin spouting now. I fully expect it, as would anyone that has dealt with you before. At least this time I know to put on a good set of waders.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 April 2004 at 03:49

i posted this thread merely to put some perspective on range, nothing more. it was not intended to start any sort of a 'i can shoot further than you' match'. many on this board routinely shoot further than 250 yards, but that wasn't the point.

the thread was started for perspective only - what 250 yards looks like, especially to some of our friends who typically hunt very tight quarters and have never even seen a deer at over 250 yards, let alone shot at one. i put a couple of references up (100 pound dog, and a target board, both w/ the 'naked eye' and w/ a view of it at 20x - though the dog got out of the pic before i could take it w/ the scope magnification, but he is there for the 'naked pic').

as such, i would appreciate it if tas would lock this thread up before it degenerates into nastiness that puts a drag on the whole board.

Hunting is not a matter of life or death; it is much more important than that.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 April 2004 at 03:57

dakota -

as always, a good and heated debate is good for entertainment, and i've got no problem with it. i am counting on and have faith in the fact that both sides of this one will open a new thread here or on the roll call so as not to pollute yours.

for what its worth, i've also go full faith in the .308 to do just what big sky shows that it did, but maybe it is just because i own one and wish i could shoot like that!



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dakotasin, my apologies.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 April 2004 at 04:11

i've opened up a thread which can be accessed by clicking here. feel free to take this debate over there. i don't know if you can cover the 100,000$ bet, but what the hell, to me sometimes there are things that are worth more than money.

dan! i know you've shot some pretty impressive groups as well! let's see them!



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 April 2004 at 08:24

I can shoot a group inside any group big mouth has shot. I believe he has been bitten by a rabid quadruped and is now foaming in the area of the mouth. I'll be in MT in early June!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 April 2004 at 06:52
Okay class would somebody please tell DeFeCate what page we are on? You questioned whether or not I used a .308 at 802 yards. You claim you will be in Montana in June. I'd be happy to shoot steel at 800 yards and let you take a look-see for yourself. Now why is it I have ZERO expectations that you will show up?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 April 2004 at 07:05

dan's been tlaking about this trip since last year. i think he will be here. i cordially invite any interested party to great falls during this time, where we can see if we can straighten this out, and also have a good afternoon of shooting, gophers, and comaradery followed by an evening of barbecue and beer.

dan, when the time gets closer, let me know of the dates!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 April 2004 at 10:50

OK, big mouth. Please cut and paste the part where I said you didn't use a 308 at 800+- yards."You questioned whether or not I used a .308 at 802 yards"

Your reading and comprehensive skills are becoming questionable to the "Class". Also just in passing, .308 could be any 30 caliber. If you meant 308 Winchester, you needn't use a decimal in front of the numbers.

"Okay class would somebody please tell DeFeCate what page we are on?"

Its just like you, looking for help from the ankle bitters, I doubt if you'll find many on this site. We fight our own battles here on the bsb. Maybe you should just clam down and let it go before you get in over your head. Be careful OLE DFC don't defecate on you. LOL

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 April 2004 at 12:19

"Those are some pretty good sized dents for a bullet at 800+ yards.

I shoot a 300 WSM and a 6.5x284 Norma at 1000. I have shot some steel at the same yardage, the dents weren't much bigger than the bullets."

 

Sorry idiot, it sure looks like that is what you are implying. If not, then never mind. Nowhere in any of my post's did I claim I could out shoot anyone. Just said that when things are right some very accurate groups could be had. I'd be the last person on earth to challenge anyone to an accuracy test. In fact I don't expect to get a group that small at 800 yards again in my life, but it wouldn't hurt my feelings if I did. I know what I can and can't do on a daily basis. I live in Montana so I won't be going anywhere. Since you "say" you are coming up then there's no excuse for you to not come over here and show me you are a fraction of the expert you claim to be.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 April 2004 at 13:15

Sorry idiot, ? There are some that can at times shoot better groups than I at 1000 yards, you are not one of them! There are some that can shoot better groups at 600 than I, you are not one of them! There are even some that can shoot better groups at 100 & 200 than I, you are not one of them either! I have been best'd at the steel shoots, but not by the likes of you!

I will admit one thing, you have a bigger mouth than I! I congratulate you on defeating a better man than yourself at something, even if it is insignificant and blemish on your character.

Implying? Hell boy, I don't imply anything, ever, I say exactly what I mean.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 April 2004 at 14:51
Let's see I have been shooting long range approximately two years now. So why should I be surprised or impressed that you can shoot better than I can at targets? If you couldn't then you really are more inept than I imagined. Now back to whether or not a 308 Win. will make a dent in the steel or not. I have the steel, I have the 308, I also have the time, plus I will be here in June. I expect you have an excuse for not showing up here to witness it, so go ahead and state it now.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 April 2004 at 15:15

 

Two great issues: Can a man shoot tiny little groups at 802 yards with a .308 and will the rounds make a big or little dent?

Being mildly analytical and having nothing else to do I gathered up a .308, some ammo, and headed out to the farm today to find out for myself. A derelict dump truck is holding down a piece of ground out there along with an old two bottom plow, a rusted out drill and various other used up pieces of once highly priced farm equipment. Figuring the old dump gate would approximate BS's steel target I placed myself what I quessed was 802 yards away and started in. At the end of the afternoon I had shot up all my .308 ammo and had arrived at the following conclussions:

1. A 308 will penetrate all the way thru a rear view mirror (no glass) with no problems.

2. The rear end of a dump truck is not very wide at approximately 802 yards

3. I have some very nosey neighbors who apparently have never seen a man shooting at his own dump truck.

4. Rusted steel dump gates don't show bullet impacts AT ALL!!!!!!

You will all have to rely on someone else for any new information.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 April 2004 at 15:37

Actually, I'm coming to MT to shoot varmints NOT to see some novice shoot his 308. Unless there's $ involved.

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Knew you would have an excuse.
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