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If you use cheap apple juice, instead of water, to cover cherries, for extracting juice, it won't really effect taste, but apple has enough pectin in it, it will help set other jellies.


I normally don't use the boxed pectin, I just add chopped green apples and apple juice, instead of water, to whatever fruit, I'm using. On a strong flavored fruit, that also is low in natural pectin, I use half chopped green apples and half the other fruit, like chokecherry, elderberry, red current, raspberry, huckleberry, really most any berry and process to make juice like normal. I bring to second boil, after first straining and for second straining, I use doubled clean old t-shirt and let hang overnight to drain (don't squeeze bag, unless you want cloudy)


If you ever what to make your own liquid pectin.

Recipe for homemade pectin

Half gallon of apple core and peels (peels and core, left over from green apple pie are best) or whole chopped green apples (as in not ripe, not color)
one cup of cider vinegar
Just enough water to cover (if you have apple juice, use it instead of the water)

Bring just to boil, simmer for about an hour, until it's reduced by half, stirring often enough to avoid scorching. Drain through colander, pressing on mash to get juice out, don't worry, there will be pulp, with the juice. Return this to boil, until it has big bubbles and gets syrupy 5-10 minutes, strain this through cheesecloth, jelly bag, or old clean t-shirt. Let it hang overnight (don't squeeze bag, unless you want cloudy).

You should end up with a quart of liquid pectin.

You can also do first part in slow cooker, bring it to boil and set it to low, for 8hrs. Strain this through colander, to get concentrate and then boil and strain again like above.

You can make a double batch, from windfall apples or when apples are thinned, you can also save peelings and core, from your pie apples, or your home made apple sauce, just freeze them until ready to use.

Finished pectin can be canned or frozen, or kept for week or so in frig. If I can it, I use 1/2pint, this is about equal to store bought liquid pectin and jells about 4 cups of plum or grape juice or fruit, low pectin fruit either, add 1/2 apples to fruit before juicing, for jelly and 1/2 apple to fruit, for jam, you can also, just use double the amount of your homemade pectin. With homemade pectin, you have to test jel.

For freezer jam, just use instead of store bought, liquid pectin.


My basic jelly recipe

four parts juice (made from 50/50 apple and other fruit)

1/8 to 1/4 part acid (depending on how tart fruit is and your preference, I like more tart) (lemon juice, vinegar, or 50/50)

teaspoon or more of butter per quart of juice

one part homemade pectin, add double or more for hard to jell fruits, peppers, onions, herbs, ect.

seven parts sugar (don't reduce below six parts, without adding extra part pectin and increasing acid)


IE my


Chokecherry recipe

4 cups green apple/chokecherry juice
1/2 cup lemon juice
1/2 cup apple cider vinegar
2 tsp butter
2 cups pectin (or two bottles/boxes SB)
6 cups sugar

I like to use big pot, twice as wide as tall and don't fill over 1/3 full.

Bring juice, acid, butter, pectin to full boil, you can't stir down, boil one minute, (it won't foam too bad at this stage)add sugar all at once and stir in, bring back up to full boil, watching out for foam over, hard boil two minutes, watch it WILL want to foam over, after the two minutes, turn down and check for jell, either with spoon/drop, or freezer method. If it's ready turn off heat, skim form and process. (if not bring back to hard boil, for another minute and retest) I use old inverted jar method, but water bath is safest.

Jam recipe, just uses fruit, as above,
Preserves I leave fruit in bigger pieces, less acid and only boil one minute (after adding sugar).


My hot pepper jelly/marmalade
(great on meat or mix with cream cheese on crackers)

2 cups green apple, cored, but skin on, thinly sliced or Peel and dice fine, if you want to hide the apple

1 cup orange or yellow bell pepper, seeded, small to medium dice 1/4"-1/2"

2 cups hot peppers small to medium dice 1/4"-1/2"(Red Jalapeno, Serrano, Habanero, work well, adjust to your taste) seed if you want less heat, leave seeds, if you want hotter. If you want mild/ not hot straight, Hatch or Disney peppers seeded work well.

2 lemons juiced
2 limes juiced
1 blood orange juiced (you can adjust citrus blend, to your taste, you want about cup of juice and cup of rind, when done, I like less lime, but many prefer all lime

Vinegar to make up one cup of citrus juice (acid blend)

rinds of juiced citrus, sliced into large matchsticks (3/8" x 3/8" x 3")

2 tsp butter
1/2 tsp to 1 tsp kosher or margarita salt (optional)
1 cups pectin (or pkg store bought)(if adding straight Habaneros, double pectin)
6 cups sugar (you can sub 4 cups agave nectar or 5 cups orange blossom honey for sugar)

I like to use big pot, twice as wide as tall and don't fill over 1/3 full.

Bring fruit/peppers, sliced rind, citrus juice(acid blend), butter, salt, pectin to full boil, (it won't foam too bad at this stage) you can't stir down, boil one minute, add sugar all at once and stir in, bring back up to full boil, watching out for foam over, hard boil two minutes, watch it WILL want to foam over, after the two minutes, turn down and check for jell, either with spoon/drop, or freezer method. If it's ready turn off heat, skim form and process (if not bring back to hard boil, for another minute and retest). I use old inverted jar method, but water bath is safest.

(ETA I did variation, this time and may become "new" recipe. I dropped apple slices and doubled citrus. Using vegi peeler, peel off just the "zest" (colored part) of rind, slice these in ribbons add to juice. I also cut rest of rind off and cut sections of orange out, leaving membranes and seeds behind (like you would do for fruit salad) (lemons and limes, I just cut thin slices, off quartered wedges) Basically I ended up with hot pepper "Marmalade") pics to follow, it takes week or so for marmalade to set.

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Is that 3 teaspoons dry pectin (one package) or three packages, as it reads?
Yes 3 Packs.
did you have trouble with it setting before?
Yes very hard to get it to set.
Do you add water to your chokecherries, to get juice started, if so, how much and how long do you cook them, before straining?
I add just enough water to cover the berries
I simmer them for about an hour.
 I them mash them with out crushing the seeds, they contain a poison . Then let it drip through a jelly bag over night.
It is still cloudy ,and I run them again through the bag only take a few minutes the second tim but help clean it up.
The grape is way easer to get to set.


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Is that 3 teaspoons dry pectin (one package) or three packages, as it reads? Three packs is a lot, did you have trouble with it setting before?

Do you add water to your chokecherries, to get juice started, if so, how much and how long do you cook them, before straining?

or do you mash them and heat until they come to boil, mash again and let drain, overnight through jelly bag?
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Grape on the left and CC on the right
 
  • 4 cups chokecherry juice
  • cup fresh lemon juice
  • 1 teaspoon butter or margarine
  • 3 pkg dry pectin
  • 5 cups of sugar
  • Instructions
    1. Pour juices in kettle.
    2. Add pectin, stir.
    3. Bring to a boil, add sugar.
    4. Boil and stir for 2 minutes.
    5. Remove from heat, skim.
    6. Ladle into jars.
    7. Process in hot water bath for 5 minutes.
    8. Cool undisturbed for 24 hours.
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    Had de-boned English chicken thighs tonight.  grilled with Jamacian  Jerk  herbs, daughter brought spice back from her vacation.
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    Don't forget to include recipe you used.

    I'll try to remember to post pics and recipe, after I do my version.
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    Chicken is history.
    I'll get some tomorrow of the jelly.
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    Where's the pics of finished jelly? Chicken?
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    I put some chicken thighs  on the BBQ grill to roast yesterday with some sliced onion and sweet green peppers. 20 Minutes before they where done I slathered on a bunch of fresh chokecherry jelly and let it brown like BBQ sauce.
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    Getting back to jelly, daughter came over and her and SIL thinned the apples and picked some of the remaining currents, while the GS did his shooting. She's making some current, apple jelly and maybe some apple butter. I'm not sure, if she was doing straight apple jelly, or adding mint or hot peppers. Kids like mint and mild hot, with meat and the straight apple for toast. Kids ate most of the currents fresh, so she's just making small batch of black and if it turns out good, she'll pick rest and do a full batch. Red current jelly, is a holiday thing, northern Germany/Scandinavian "new world" substitute for Lingonberry jelly, from "home". Black current is "musty" instead of tart.
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    Mountain grouse on this side of state, are mostly ground sluiced and shot with 22 pistols (or rifles by kids). 410 is a bit safer for shooting them out of trees, 12 gauge, if you want to flush them first (but shots are too close, to save much meat). Spruce/Franklin/"Fool hens" are most common down low spruce and dog hair fir patches and it's hard to get them up. Ruffs and Blue/aka "Dusty" grouse are in open enough country, wing shots are more possible.

    GS is small 8yrold and he only dry fired 410, after I showed him how to shoot in and had SIL shoot one shot, so GS could see, it wasn't as loud nor as hard kicking as 12ga, which my daughter doesn't like because of recoil. Even low base 2 1/2" seemed too much, for him, so I had him dry fire it a bit and decided to shelf 410, until next fall.

    I don't really bird hunt anymore, but do sometimes take cap & ball pistol out, it's a little more challenging for 25yd shot, out of a tree. GS is still going to go out, with me, but will be taking 22 for "squirrels", there are a few "bush bunnies" out, so he may get one of those too. Bush bunnies aren't what you're thinking, get your mind out of gutter, they're a mountain cottontail, smaller in size than ones, you see east of the hill.

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    At our previous house we had Wild grapes on the fence line but they were too small & sour to eat whole but wife cooked them down for the juice to make jelly. Now we have wild blackberries on this property and use them for the juice for jelly here. 

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    Sharptail and sage grouse we have to use a shot gun, ruff, dusky, and franklin grouse we can use a rifle as well as fall turkey.
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    EXACTLY That's why  YOU use a 410 and that's the reason I USE A 12 GAUGE!!!!Big smile
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    Way to go with the jelly making there d. Way better than store bought stuff too. 

    Grouse are meant to be hunted with a shotgun not rifle...we have Ruffed Grouse here...a .410 is usually full choked and not really a kids gun if you do any "on the wing" shooting of grouse..I suppose ok if you shoot them on the ground.....takes an expert to hit a grouse flying thru trees/brush with a full choke .410.Smile

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    I'm taking oldest GS out, weekend after Labor Day, so he can shoot some grouse. Haven't decided, if we're going to do cast and blast, fish morning, grouse mid-day, and fish in evening. I guess it depends on, if SIL wants to camp in area, he can bow hunt in. Take the daughter and both grandkids fishing in morning, while he bow hunts, drop the daughter and youngest GS off for nap, take the oldest out and see if he can shoot a grouse.

    I'm going to have him try 410 tomorrow and see if he can use it or the 22, for grouse. I put scope on lil rascal 22 and he does pretty good with it.
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    Maybe it's our dryness?
    Your side of the pile of rocks is always greener then mine.
    We never plant anything but onions or potatoes before Memorial day. Labor day is normally the end of any green plant  . AND the doves leave the opening week of dove season.
    For years , since the kids where around 3 , we do a Labor day bird hunt. The wife worked for the school district and it would be HER vacation when I took the kids for a 3 day bird hunt.
    We still do some hunting on the opener, the GD's aren't much on bird hunting...Cry
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    You must of been thinking of "banana belt", "official" growing season here is 125 days VS GF's 145 days, the real gardening season is more like CF's 90 days(Father's Day until grouse opener) VS GF's 110 days (Mother's Day til grouse opener). Grapes I grow (Canadian "ice wine"), plums, and apples start coming off around antelope opener and if birds and bears, don't get into them, can last until deer opener (plums) or Thanksgiving (apples).

    I bet the GD, can take care of that grape jelly, pretty easily. If you eat much syrup and still have chokecherries left, it makes the best pancake/waffle syrup. If you've never made syrup, it's as easy or easier than jelly. You just start with sweetened juice and boil it longer, than old fashioned jelly.

    Speaking of Grandkids and grouse, it opens next Sunday, I believe, if kids have their apprentice tag and conservation license, they can get their own limit. I know they must buy some of the 1/2 price tags/licenses, but upland and migratory bird, has conflicting info online, so check first. Time to get the 410 or 28 gauge dusted off. If you don't have either and since you reload shotgun, 20 gauge loaded down, is maybe better option.


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    Your growing season is considerably longer then mine , We can and do often get a killing freeze the first of September.
    We can get apples and some plums but seldom grapes and cherries.
    Hard pressed to get good corn too...
    I never made wine or brandy, The Great aunts did the only wine I drink, almost never, is homemade chokecherry . All for fun and game with the GD, probably give most away.
     
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