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    Posted: 16 December 2018 at 15:35
Been hunting NY state and at close thick stuff.  My Kimber 6.5-08 with the Leupold 3-9x wasn't the best.  Figuring 40 yards for shot; need to drop it right there.

So for next year I need to come up with something better.

Well, I got the scope Leupold 1-4x 28.

Rifle?
---Could go with a 44 mag Marlin
---Ruger #3 in 30-40.
---Rem bolt in 7 mag.

Will be shooting smallest weight bullet I can get, at max velocity...disolve-a matic.


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303 British  or maybe a 7.62 x54.
I think a 30/30 would serve well to.
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Of the rifles listed, for 40 yards or so, I'd go with the Marlin or #3 with a low power scope. Good luck. 788
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Problem with the 7.62 x54 is, on close shots the muzzle flash can blind you.
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It's not listed, but in lever, I'd go with 38-55, over 44mag. Mainly because my Grandpa Sam used one for everything, from deer to moose and it always worked. Neither him nor Grandma Roberts (30/30) ever used scope and mostly hunted by drives, so shots were often short range, on moving game.

If you already have 44mag lever, I'd go with 240gr over 180gr, much better performance on deer.
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Nothing drops the hammer like a slug inside a hundred....nothin. An 870 with a short tube slug barrel will make it easily into a carbine length and still remain light enough to carry, and even the smooth bores out to a hundred will put them in at MOdeer. 2 3/4 for a 12 and 3" for a 20 should drop even the biggest of PA bears or deer.
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It's hard to argue with a shotgun slug for less than 100 yards. My personnel short range gun is a marlin lever in 45-70 with a 1.5X5 Leopold scope. It is absolutely deadly at close range and can stretch to 200-250 in a pinch. Another round I really like in close that has less recoil is the 35 Remington, similar to a 30-30 just a bigger hole.
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I think the Ruger #3 would be a neat way to go and very effective too at 40yds.
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My honest opinion is that a .30/30 would be ideal; although there are no flies on the .35 Remington.
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Off the list, but a lever 45-70.
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Boy, I think I'd really need to load the 45=70 DOWN to avoid blowing thru a whitetail like a laser.  Certainly could use a cast slow moving bullet?

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Gotta say the 45-70 is ok for deer the way I do it.........load BP under 405gr cast boolet and launch it from my Trapdoor.Wink
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d4570 Already mentioned it:
 
I use a 303B with iron sights for close range deer or hogs.
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Eyes are well beyond using peep or open sights, would love to.  Glad I have 50% in my good eye.

Scopes are the only way I can hunt.  Handgun shooting is getting to be instinct, not aim.  BUT>>>the really good news is I can still hunt.
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Ok,  thanks for all the good input.

Decisions:

The 30-40 Krag Ruger #3, 22 inch barrel, not super light weight but good balance; very, very accurate.
The scope:  leupold VX-2  1-4x-20mm.  Not the besst low light scope, but a true 1x and super clear.
Mounts  Weaver Quad, 1"  double extended (reversed) fo perfect eyerelief.
The ammo P++ loaded with RL-7 and   Hornady 125 gr SST  at 3025 fps.

Got all the parts, just need to mount scope, sight in, and load develope.  Got 10 months of fun ahead.
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A good choice all the way around bear.....no more new #3's since a long time ago now either. 
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Bought my #3 for $85 in 1977 ay LGS.  had him toss in a box of ammo!  should have bought a dozen.


Interesting thing was I bought it on a friday and the local gun club had a 100 yards shoot on satruday, off hand, standing, open sights.  I got to the finals on that box of ammo; never even got to sight it in!  In the final round, IWas shooting against two Marnies with AR from Quantico.  Won the $100 pot.

So the gun was basically free.  2 pi$$ed jarheads.
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Good choice Bear. I think it will serve you well. 

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Interesting, I've had the rifle a long time and killed 30+ deer with it.  But haven't shot it in20 years or so.  since mounting the new scope, I've pulled it up a dozen or so times,  feels really good.

This is a rifle specificlly for my short, under 50 yard, hunting areas; so I'll probably never shoot it except at the range.  But it will be a good friend to take for short walks into the big woods.
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It's good to take an old friend out into the woods. 

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