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    Posted: 19 February 2019 at 14:40
I've always loaded for expansion and full penetration using pointed cup/core bullets.  I rated deer thaat didn't have an exit hole as a poor bullet performance.  First few deer I shot out of my 308 (1960s) were with 125 grain Speer.  NO EXIT--so I moved upward to 150 grain.  Never lost a deer to either 125 nor 150 gr bullets.

But now shooting the 6.5-08, I've been getting fantastic kills DRT with light 123 gr SST, plastic tipped fast expanding/exploding.  I was using this bullet as a long range option, 3-400 yards.

But now age requires me to drop deer in their tracks.  So I'm now shooting lighter bullets trying to destroy the chest cavity, and not be concerned about exit holes.will be trying the 125 gr SST in my short range gun, 30-40 moving at 3,000 fps.


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I'm GLAD when the bullet stays in side.
 All the energy gets dumped in the animal not the hill side.
Most our bullets stop just under the off side skin.
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well if the bullet leaves with 300 fps on the of side.  an entered at 3,000 fps.

99% of the energy was expended in the deer.
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I've always had my best DRT performance with partitions, heavy for caliber. For 260-6.5mm/08 140gr PT would be my first choice and if forced to go lighter 125gr PT. I've never had any animal, get much out of their tracks with partitions, in appropriate caliber and with decent shot placement. I went to accubond (in many cases), just because partitions caused so much bloodshot.
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Put the old heavy for caliber C&C bullets high on both shoulders
 
and it's not going anywhere!
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yea Ray, got you.  breaking both front shoulders will put it one the ground.  but requires aa second shot; and some suffering.
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12 gauge hollow point slug or my customized explosive/expansion .375 H&H load....may loose the front half of the deer with the 375 though. You only wanted the kosher parts though right?
...oh yeah! thats gonna hurt!
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Over the years I have tried everything light, heavy and everything in between. As a general rule light bullets tend to make faster more spectacular kills and heavier bullets more for sure kills. I think it all depends on what you hunt and where. I mostly hunt elk on public ground. Because elk are a damn tough critter and very seldom go down at the shot and tend to run a little ways I always like a exit wound so I can have a good blood trail. Deer tend to be more affected by shock so you can get away better with lighter bullets.  My issue is I usually kill deer while hunting elk so now days I pretty much hunt with heavy for caliber bullets. My go to gun and load is a 338 Win Mag with 250 grain Nosler partition gold bullets loaded to 2825 FPS.  I have killed a lot of game with this load and have never recovered a bullet. The usual exit hole is 1-2 inches and leaves a lot of blood on the ground. That is exactly how I want it.
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Sounds like a good Elk load Mt.

been 3 years since I killed an elk, those mountains seem to have gotten steeper!   But that elk didn't like the 286 grain round nose from my 9.3x62.

The Nosler makes a lot of sense for ELK; as you can be shooting at 40 yards in timber, and 10 minutes latter the shots can be 350 yds.  the BT expansion changes with distance(velocity).
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