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d4570 
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 Posted: 10 June 2021 at 07:45 |
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YUP!
That's why I'll paint it gray. "snow chameleon" I kinda like THAT
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Posted: 10 June 2021 at 14:54 |
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That turned out great.
I was thinking about your carrier. Would their be a problem with building a small, like 4X8 or 6X8 trailer? That would take a lot of stress off of your hitch. And axles and fenders are relatively inexpensive at places like Northern Tool. Just a thought. Wing master
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I have always considered myself to be quite the bullshitter, But ocasionally it is nice to sit back and listen to a true professional......So, Carry on.
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d4570
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Posted: 10 June 2021 at 15:48 |
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Before having a trailer I would just build a longer ramp and put it in the bed of the truck.
I don't anticipate a problem. I put 4 people ( 600 pounds+) on the buddy and we all jumped around with very little deflection. The truck could benefit from a set of air bags in the back when pulling, so if there is a problem I'll add some.
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Posted: 10 June 2021 at 16:14 |
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Trailers are definatly a pain in the backside.
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d4570
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Posted: 21 June 2021 at 15:09 |
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I think I'm ready for a field test.
The little testing I did at home reveled I needed to Beef up the handle bars, finished. The ramp I had was WAY to short so I had to make one it's about 54" long much better. I had the buddy beefed up but after looking at it closer I found some week spots, got them worked out I think. I talked with my Tire guy and he think the weight issue should be ok, one day I may but on some airbags to keep the truck level when loaded. With the muddy dog loaded with the trailer on top and me on the buddy the truck deflex 2 or 3 inches The buddy it self is 4" lower, the head light will be to high I think, airbags would help that to. Next week I'll do a dirt trail test...          |
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Posted: 21 June 2021 at 23:46 |
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Was the weight TEST (slight sag) with a full gas tank?  IF so maybe try some "corn" gas it might be lighter!  Good job there dale. I"d guess you have real "truck" tires ie LT type (vs P type) with load range "E"! |
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d4570
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Posted: 22 June 2021 at 07:40 |
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YUP!
Full tank of Corn gas, on the dog and truck. My DuoMax Motor on the dog is designed to use 10% they claim you should not run Non ethanal. Yes I run Cooper truck tires. They don't "DO" ply's anymore but there rated 10 ply and a very heavy tread, you know for Montana gumbo. Top weight rating what ever the letter is, and speed rated to 100. When the wife goes back to work I think I'll add a set of rear air bags.
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Posted: 22 June 2021 at 08:07 |
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U certainly have the tires for the use required for off road driving. Those 10 ply have a heavier sidewall to minimize sway & will resist punctures better too. Yup, air bag system looks familiar, I had a set of the "Coil Rite" style (don't remember brand) on my 1/2 ton pickup when I used it to tow a 5th wheel. They had an air valve installed on rear bumper area to inflate or deflate both air bags together, as needed, when truck empty or loaded. Should work fine and help balance the truck when loaded like that off the rear carrier. I have an on board air lift system/compressor on the 3/4T truck now for towing the 5th wheel. Push a button to raise or lower truck to level the tow load. Don't forget to apply for the 20% off coupon that "popped up" in the link. Gives peace of mind for the extra load extended off the hitch & should make for safer handling too.
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Posted: 03 July 2021 at 16:22 |
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I had a simple brake system but It didn't work well and difficult to work.
SO plan b+g=m.   This is a disk brake disk off the old Johnson I welded on to a hub I got. Dang with out a lathe it's hard but I got it so it's really Squire and tracks nice. Now, some kind of caliper that I can pull with a cable. Something similar to a bike but more linear and way heaver.
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Posted: 03 July 2021 at 16:40 |
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Are you going to fabricate the caliper yourself?
I'm picturing something like those tongs that they used to pick up blocks of ice? Wing master
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Posted: 03 July 2021 at 17:16 |
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Yes and Yes.
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Posted: 03 July 2021 at 22:18 |
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bikes use rubber brake pads what have you in mind for the disc brake creation???? Maybe adapt some kind of automotive pad....maybe like a disc brake pad/caliper from car/truck???????????
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Posted: 03 July 2021 at 22:22 |
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That's kinda what I have in mind.
I don't know how hard I need to squeeze. They will be mechanical not hydraulic.
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Posted: 03 July 2021 at 22:30 |
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WEll if all else fails you can always carry a navy style boat anchor and a stout rope!
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Posted: 04 July 2021 at 10:19 |
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With a little thinking I'm going this direction.
 Welding vice grips, $6 at harbor freight. and I found some pads on amazon I cant get the link to work??? Rear Disc Brake Shoes Pads, PRO BAT, ATV Go Kart Disc Brake Pad shoes fit ATV Quad Dirt Pit Bike " $6.99" Not sure how yet but I will. "Note to self disable the lock set on the grips."
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Posted: 04 July 2021 at 15:47 |
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Posted: 04 July 2021 at 16:51 |
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That sure looks promising WM. Good find. Better than locking welding Clamps maybe.
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Posted: 04 July 2021 at 21:21 |
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HUMMM...
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Posted: 05 July 2021 at 06:04 |
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Most of the early 70-00s cars with all disc brakes had a small lever actuator pn the rear disc caliper for the hand brake/emergency brake (see 1990 dodge daytona).junk yard?
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Posted: 12 July 2021 at 18:54 |
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It took a few attempts to make them work, but I have it now. BRAKES !!!
They look like a "Rat" build but they stop. In fact I'll have to be carful, it will lock up the track and skid with the trailer pushing the back of the dog. I'll try to relocate the handle to be a little easily activated. AND yes I disabled the "Lock" on the vice grips as to not be able to release them.  All in cost not counting time is $12.
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