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U certainly have the tires for the use required for off road driving. Those 10 ply have a heavier sidewall to minimize sway & will resist punctures better too. Yup, air bag system looks familiar, I had a set of the "Coil Rite" style (don't remember brand) on my 1/2 ton pickup when I used it to tow a 5th wheel. They had an air valve installed on rear bumper area to inflate or deflate both air bags together, as needed, when truck empty or loaded. Should work fine and help balance the truck when loaded like that off the rear carrier. I have an on board air lift system/compressor on the 3/4T truck now for towing the 5th wheel. Push a button to raise or lower truck to level the tow load. Don't forget to apply for the 20% off coupon that "popped up" in the link. Gives peace of mind for the extra load extended off the hitch & should make for safer handling too. Clap
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YUP! 
Full tank of Corn gas, on the dog and truck.
My DuoMax Motor on the dog is designed to use 10% they claim you should not run Non ethanal. 
Yes I run Cooper truck tires. They don't "DO" ply's anymore but there rated 10 ply and a very heavy tread, you know for Montana gumbo.
Top weight rating what ever the letter is, and speed rated to 100.
When the wife goes back to work I think I'll add a set of rear air bags.


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Was the weight TEST (slight sag) with a full gas tank?Confused  IF so maybe try some "corn" gas it might be lighter!ErmmLOL

Good job there dale. I"d guess you have real "truck" tires ie LT type (vs P type) with load range "E"!

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I think I'm ready for a field test.
The little testing I did at home reveled I needed to Beef up the handle bars, finished.
The ramp I had was WAY to short so I had to make one it's about 54" long much better.
I had the buddy beefed up but after looking at it closer I found some week spots, got them worked out I think. I talked with my Tire guy and he think the weight issue should be ok, one day I may but on some airbags to keep the truck level when loaded.
With the muddy dog loaded with the trailer on top and me on the buddy the truck deflex 2 or 3 inches
The buddy it self is 4" lower, the head light will be to high I think, airbags would help that to.
Next week I'll do a dirt trail test...
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Trailers are definatly a pain in the backside. 

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Before having a trailer I would just build a longer ramp and put it in the bed of the truck.
I don't anticipate a problem. I put 4 people ( 600 pounds+) on the buddy and we all jumped around with very little deflection.
The truck could benefit from a set of air bags in the back when pulling, so if there is a problem I'll add some.
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That turned out great.

I was thinking about your carrier. Would their be a problem with building a small, like 4X8 or 6X8 trailer? That would take a lot of stress off of your hitch. And axles and fenders are relatively inexpensive at places like Northern Tool. 

Just a thought. 

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YUP!
 That's why I'll paint it gray.
 "snow chameleon" I kinda like THAT
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Looks great.
With that frame work you could add a white sheet for winter camo?  maybe a fall deer hunting camo also.  then you could call it "snow chameleon"! 
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I'm calling it the muddy dog.
All but paint and a longer ramp to put it on the bumper buddy, it's ready to hit the trails. I'll work on a sled, later you know, when there is snow.




It is just as fast with two as one.
A little adjusting the throttle and it up to almost 25 mph.( with two)
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Could get a smaller box beam and insert it inside the tube.  Would strengthen it, but might bend a little with over-weight if the gap between the beam and the tube is large.

The biggest problem with that much weight on the carrier is BOUNCING.  Washboard road might get it bouncing up-down which would increase the load up to 5 times the static load...some carriers can be locked down to limit bounce, but that also makes it rigid if you ground-out on the carrier....I've straightened a few.


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The "buddy" is rated at 600 pounds, according to the sticker.
The reserve draw bar says 1200 pounds.
Ford says 1300 pounds.
I have easily increased the buddy another 50%.
The only thing I could not "Beef" up is the tube that goes in to the receiver.
I could but a very difficult job.
I would have to get thicker wall tubing and cut every thing off and reweld it all, My little welder can't weld anything that thick.
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What is the weight rating for the bumper buddy? All the weight is hanging on that "tongue" in the receiver. I think that is the limiting factor.
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I finished most the little things ,still need to think on the brake.
I bit the bullet and got a sheet of treated 3/4 ply for the bumper buddy, anchored it with 5/8 carage bolts. I stacked it all on the buddy like I plan to hall it, rapped some big tie down straps and lifted it with my scale. Just under 500 pounds with the buddy.
My f150 should handle that ok, my lights me be high with it on
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Looks good.  whole assembled weight is getting higher on that carrier.  lots of steel there to bounce.
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I put a cage/ carry over the motor.
It will stop to much damage on the motor if I tip over and it gives me a place to put the trailer or sled. Keeping it out of the bed.

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Ayear ago I got a speeding ticket, going threw a remote swamp road, no buildings or traffic.  doing 51 mph in a 40 zone.  SPEED TRAP.

my son and daughter were amazed and took me to lunch to celebrate.

My normal/standard max interstate speed is 58 MPH.....other drivers admire me because as they pass they signal that I'm  No.1
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Like my truck, it will do 130 mph but I drive closer to 65!
 My wife says I drive like an old Papa...
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