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MapleHill ![]() .375 Holland & Holland Magnum ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 January 2016 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 701 |
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I told you guys I had been shooting at an indoor range and checking out there inventory. I looked around and found all the modern plastic pistols but I have been looking for a modern (post-WW2) PP or PPK. They didn't have any, but did tell me about a shop right near my house. They have a huge selection of about anything. All the new plastic pistols, 1911s, selection of WW2 bringbacks, some revolvers and of course tons of ARs. They did have a few newer import PPKs but wasn't ready to pay what they were asking, although not way out of sight...a bit more than I wanted to spend. Back to the range to shoot the next weekend, looked around and low and behold, an Interarms imported PPK, 4 mags and cheapie holster...$575...it's mine!! I returned the next day to shoot it and rented a couple HKs. A P30 and VP9. Now in my mind I compare firearms like vehicles, for example, my Glocks are like the Chevy and Fords, not the nicest, not the cheapest, good working man quality that do the job, the Hi Points and SCCY and some of the other cheaper ones are like a Yugo or old school Pinto. The HKs I always considered the BMW or Mercedes of the pistol work, along with SIG and FN. Although I never shot them I made this opinion in my head by price point and what I have read. Well after shooting the HKs, there is no doubt, they are incredible. Smooth, great triggers, everything about them was top quality! Next purchase will be an HK VP9!
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BEAR ![]() Administrator ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 September 2013 Location: Appalachian Mtn Status: Offline Points: 13645 |
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All are nice; but the VP9 is a striker-fired pistol. And the PPK is a hammer fired pistol.
PERSONALLY<FOR DEFENSE I void striker fired pistols. Why? Well, striker fired pistols if you get a misfire/dud, you must completely rack, eject and reload another round. While I like to think duds don't happened often; it is nice in a hammer fired Da to just start pulling the trigger, with the good chance that it will fire on a second strike. Plastic frames are usually not strong enough for hammer fired action, so most are striker fired. And since most of the mechanism on SF pistols are in the metal slide, they are cheaper to manufacture. Just some thoughts.
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MapleHill ![]() .375 Holland & Holland Magnum ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 January 2016 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 701 |
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Bear, noted on all accounts, however, alot of LEO and many military units use the striker fired pistols. For me, it was the trigger pull between the P30 and VP9. Both are very smooth, but the VP felt much more comfortable in my hand. Even though I like the idea of a hammer and safety, the VP won me over. The PPK is a novelty thing for me, James Bond. Although I wouldn't be against using it for CCW. I did get to shoot my new (to me) Hi Power. Again, another level of fit, finish and smoothness. I have never been a fan of the 1911, not that I have shot many, maybe it is the bulkiness of them, maybe I need to shoot the right one. A close friend that taught me how to shoot better (retired FBI) had a Colt Delta Elite 10mm and that was an awesome pistol. I am gonna shoot more at that range, $10 to shoot anything I want, but I have to buy their ammo. They have a large selection, so I will pick a couple more out and give 'em a test drive.
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d4570 ![]() .416 Rigby ![]() ![]() Joined: 27 January 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 9275 |
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What if they don't have what your shooting, or trying to shoot?
Like maybe a 22 jet, or that 50 acp thing kallen was talking? I'm guessing it's all pistol?
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BEAR ![]() Administrator ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 September 2013 Location: Appalachian Mtn Status: Offline Points: 13645 |
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Striker fired pistols, like the glock, are really half double action. The striker is half cocked on cycle, then the trigger pull only need do half the work to fully cock. also why a double pull doesn't cock on a dud.
Police like them because they don't want leos caryring single action pistols that have a very light pull, and in intense situation are likely to be unknowingly fired. Hammer fired SA/DA pistols can be dangerous for anxiety situation, as the first shot is strong double action trigger, after that shot the gun shifts to single action with a very light trigger pull. Nice to try them all. For CCW I have 32 acp, 380, 9mm, 38, 357. Carried a 38 snib nose for 30 years, now like the super light 380. Thinking my next pistol might be a Bond two barrel. |
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klallen ![]() .416 Rigby ![]() ![]() ** The RockChucker ** Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2330 |
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Nice. Little bugger kinda looks like my PA63 Makarov.
Yeah, local ranges aren't my thing. None of them is worth getting my brass from me. Heck, some of it they'd just be turning around and selling it back to me cause I'm the only one I know shooting it. lol. I've been eye-balling an HK USP Elite .45 ACP for some time now. Sometimes I can find one under $1K but rarely. Pricey guns. k
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MapleHill ![]() .375 Holland & Holland Magnum ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 January 2016 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 701 |
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Klallen, the USP are the top, top tier! They have a tactical model on the shelf for @$1200+. D, you can rent full auto! They have a SAW and several others. But you have to buy their ammo...could get pricey, or you have 3 seconds of fun...
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klallen ![]() .416 Rigby ![]() ![]() ** The RockChucker ** Joined: 10 June 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2330 |
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Hi MH. I'm holding out for the Elite if I get an HK. GunBroker's got 2 used right now for $950 and $1050. I had one for $899 nib saved in my watchlist a couple weeks back and drooled over it daily but didn't jump. I may have screwed up. k
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