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If it were just me, I'd get an M1911 .45 ACP...

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Have you givin this any thought?

http://www.marksmanshipmatters.com/comparing-the-10-mm-450-smc-and-45-super-for-predator-defense/

Simple upgrade for a 1911, supported barrel and a heavier spring.
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That doesn't sound bad at all! Thumbs Up
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If you are into rolling your own, I'm sure the same could be done with the .50GI
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......think long slide, skeletonized/slotted. SS 6" BB comped and ported to gain the extra 100fps and tame the weight and recoil to below .45 ACP. Kydex G-2's, extended magwell, high vis tritium adjustable sights with a halo dot and iron cowitness....two-tone...nothing too extreme, but that's just if it were me!
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  Tas  you know Debb used to shoot a great deal with me and the boy's . She has shot 1911's (she has no choice with us  LOL )  Sig. P232 ,my carry gun . single actions, S&W different double actions , her Ruger P-85 , Styer 9mm ,and a host of others . I have let her friends shoot and get qualified  for their CCP with what we have in the safe .  One thing I notice about 75% of her friends and her ,is with semi's they have a hard time racking the slide ,and the smaller they are the harder they are  ,not to mention how many time they skin their thumb up.  Confused
  Believe it or not ,when left to what they feel the most comfortable with ,they always go to the double actions ,38's 357's and the .22's . And you would think the Smiths. But no Debb when she wants to shoots for fun with us ,will always go to her Taurus Ultra Lite in .38 .
 
 Unless you really buying a new gun for yourself LOL ,check them out . If she don't like it ,she won't shoot it.
 
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Some great points, Mike - thanks!
 
I'll be checking with her and seeing if she still wants one, now that Spring is going to be here (hopefully) soon. During the winter, things kind of wither on the vine....Shocked
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Pretty much already said/covered and lots of good info.
For house gun hard to beat a 4"Bbl revolver in .38Spl. Defense load. The +P can be tested later if wanted. Grips must be a good fit to shooter...rubber grips give secure grip :
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Also remember in-house...light loads in light cartridges mean LESS noise upon firing.  A 44 mag in a house will stun the shooter.
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LOL, trying to remember where I heard that the sound of a pump shotgun being loaded was enough to make most perps have a slippery withdrawal from your premises. I'm certain that a twin barreled blunderbuss configuration with black powder charge would pretty much clear any hallway or room with debris, smoke and horrendous noise. Recoil would be modest and aim is relatively irrelevant.

For the record, a friend of my wifes house was invaded and her friends father met the perp at a stairwell. He politely asked who was entering his house at such an hour to which the perp replied it was his worst nightmare and he should tuck tale and hide if he wanted to survive. At which point the father laughed at him and cycled his 12 ga. while telling the perp he better fight better then the little nips he ran out of caves in nam!.....Incident ended without any further commentary from the perp. Might be something to that philosophy.
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In a strange twist of events, The Beautiful Mrs. Tas has actually moved along from this idea; thanks to the events that are going on in the hallowed halls of our "wise" statesmen, an AR15 might actually be on the table, bump stock and all.
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Tas...IMHO...bumpstocks NO good for selfdefense..stay with fixed or adj. Stock.....best trigger would be Military grade vs light pull type....
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NOISE!
MUZZLE FLASH!
TWO very bad things that happen when a gun is fired in a dark house/hallway etc.

Electronic muffs can solve that. They allow you to hear normal sounds but filter out gunshots.

Muzzle flashes tuffer to avoid.

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Well, where she is concerned, I think it is beyond home defense; it's more along the lines of "get one before they take them away."
 
She's become quite the Constitutionalist in the past 3 or 4 years, and it's refreshing to see!


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Well now we are talkin! I'ld sway her towards the POF AR-10. It is suppressor ready which drops the noise and flash down and is also a very capable hunting platform. For the defense load a nice frangible 110 grainer is available that pretty much explodes on impact into tiny shards. Best part is it's a piston gun and therefore able to put a folding stock on it for home use and it's easy enough to change out again to a more hunter friendly full stock in quite literally seconds. Sure it will cost you a couple bucks, but for a light weight 10 piston drive it's well worth the yote hides!
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The AR-10 would definitely be my own first choice - I've been a fan of that 7.62 magic all of my life! Hug
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I own the 10's and they are loud! Mine are Full target jobs and heavy. Recoil in the heavy guns is less then the .223, but in the lighter guns with the gas action recoil is more on par with a 10 pound .243, very gentle but you know it went off. Just about all of the current offerings of AR-10 platforms are sufficiently accurate with some type of ammo from the factory hovering about a MOA., but if you work your own tailored load up for it and experiment til you find it's pet, most will run with any bolt gun.
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Expect to prices of ARs to go back up, two weeks ago, they were still on sale for ~$450, for base model, same one's now ~$600.

Don't bother with bump stock, but I'd get some of the "normal" capacity mags, before they go after them too. Magpul 60rd drum mags and surefire 60-100rd mags, will inflate in price, pretty quickly. They've already gone up by half, in last month.
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Gary (IBD) passed along this article, which is worth reading, I think:
 
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Interesting 1911 article.  I never liked them and sold the only one I owned in 1960.  Shot a lot of target with them, but I just couldn't get them to shoot for me...too much slide movement while bullet was still in barrel?  weak hands?

But that article seemed to say,  'buy one now, a low priced one, while you STILL can'.

maybe I do need one.
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I am a 1911 fan.One can never go wrong by owning a Good 1911! They are a bit heavy to carry concealed the even the smaller ones. Not best for concealed carry in warm weather tho with t-shirt/shorts. 
Now I have heard but not checked out there is a 1911 made by STI that has a 20rd mag capacity with nearly same grip size as standard 1911. Actually saw one being carried by a sheriff's deputy...he was sold on it for his use. That would be a neat gun with 20 rd capacity but not a concealed carry candidate for most of us. 
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