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Joe Mattioli's "Ancient Orange Mead" I have long wanted to try making mead; that is, a wine made using honey as its base. As someone who has an interest in food history as well as brewing and winemaking, it is one of those things that really appeals to me. Also, having a Scandinavia heritage, it seems that I would be destined to try this, at least once. I have seen several interesting recipes and variations...I even bought the honey to start the project at least twice; but other things always got in the way, and I never was able to commence with the actual deed. Over this past weekend, I rectified that oversight, and it looks like my first mead is off to a great start. Mead can be as simple as honey, water and whatever yeast happens to be floating in the air; I cannot prove it, but I am certain that is how this wonderful beverage originated. Having said that, once people found out how good this is, I am sure that they took some steps to produce the best mead that they could, given their limited knowledge, understanding and resources. One way to help with that is to "feed" the yeast that is fermenting the honey. There are commercial options, but this recipe manages to do that with two "natural" ingredients, oranges and raisins. Were these ingredients available to "the ancients?" Of course they were, either directly or via trade. The addition of some spices was also common, to liven things up. This recipe comes from Joe Mattioli, and I am posting it as I found it, grammatical errors and all. It is rather "colourfully" written, as you will see, but I believe that it helps the author underscore some key points about the way that the ingredients and method work together to achieve the goal.
When I made mine, I had to make a few very slight variations, due to necessity and what was on hand: The amount of honey I used was probably an ounce or three shy of 3.5 pounds, but I am sure it will be fine. The biggest share of it was raw, unfiltered Montana honey, while half a pound of it was a blend of Montana honey and Montana huckleberry, just because that is what I had on hand. I grated what looked like a pinch of nutmeg off of a whole...nugget? Nut? I am not sure what it is called. It might have been a bit more, but I am sure this will be fine, too. Having no Fleischmann's yeast, I used a generous teaspoon of "Western Family" yeast, which is distributed by a regional grocery chain. As with everything else above, I am willing to bet that this will be fine. One other variation involved the orange that was used. The Number One criticism of this recipe (other than the yeast, which is generally looked down upon in spite of its being perfectly appropriate for this recipe) is that there is an objectionable bitterness from the pith of the orange that takes several months, if not longer, to age out of the mead. In order to preclude this, I wanted to zest and then juice the orange; unfortunately, I couldn't find one part of my juicer due to some sort of "mysterious disappearance. Undaunted, I zested the orange, then peeled it (pulling off any substantial "strings" of pith), then cut the segments into chunks and tossed everything in. My logic was that cutting the segments into chunks would also be much easier to remove from the fermenter later on. My son, Mike, who has made this before, said that he noticed no bitterness when he made his (pith and all), but by then I had already done it, so we will see how it goes. It will be fine, I am sure. Between the honey and about half a gallon of water (I used a local spring water that makes great beer), I had about 3/4 of the fermenter filled by the time I was finished. I decided to leave this alone for a few days or so until the most active period of fermentation is complete, then top up to a gallon. This is, of course, in accordance with the instructions. Fermentation took off almost immediately and has been active since then. The mead looks and smells great, so far, and I think it is safe to say that we are off to an auspicious start. I added about half of my intended "topping-up" water yesterday, and will probably add the rest tonight, in order to be at a full gallon. From there, I will leave it alone and wait until at least two months have passed; at that point, I will decide what to do with it. More as it happens, etc. &c... Ron Edited by TasunkaWitko - 25 September 2017 at 17:23 |
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I checked on my mead last night - The mead is looking very nice at this stage; fermentation is still active; not screaming-fast or overly-vigorous, but it is chugging along nicely. It has a really nice aroma to it and I think we're proceeding along very well. Since things were looking good, I topped it up to a full gallon. I may have been a little premature with this, but I am sure things will be fine. |
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I have never tried Mead. Is it wine?
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I have always considered myself to be quite the bullshitter, But ocasionally it is nice to sit back and listen to a true professional......So, Carry on.
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Hi, Randy -
Essentially, mead is honey wine. There is probably a little more to it than that, but it's a good enough definition for me. LoL I'll try to post some additional information tomorrow! Edited by TasunkaWitko - 27 September 2017 at 23:09 |
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From Wikipedia:
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Very interesting reading Ron.
Their is a Meadery here in town. It's the only one I have ever heard of. After reading this, I might have to go and get some to try. Thanks for the information. Wing master |
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I have always considered myself to be quite the bullshitter, But ocasionally it is nice to sit back and listen to a true professional......So, Carry on.
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I have had a few different means and have really enjoyed them. It is something that is different, but very good. To me, it is especially good on a winter's evening, with snow falling gently outside; it warms the soul!
If you ever want to try making any, this is a good "first recipe" to try. There is also another one that I intend trying; it is straight honey, with no addition of spices of "natural" yeast nutrients. If you're interested, I can find the link to the recipe and post it. |
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If you wouldn't mind posting the recipe I would appreciate it.
If you have ever spent much time in northeastern Wyoming you know it's a rare occasion that snow falls gently. Our snow is horizontal. Wing master |
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The snow is usually horizontal here, too - but on those rare occasions when it isn't, it sure is nice.
Here is the link to a 1-gallon batch of straight-up mead: http://www.stormthecastle.com/mead/brew-1-gallon-of-honey-wine-mead.htm The page looks a little strange on my phone. You have to scroll down quite a bit to get to the meat of it. On a desktop computer, It is much easier to follow. If you have any questions at all, let me know. I am probably going to try this one in the next week or two. Edited by TasunkaWitko - 10 October 2017 at 16:33 |
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I bottled this mead last night, and I believe it is going to be pretty good! The bottling went fairly well; I got about 4.5 bottles out of the total gallon, which is pretty good considering that there was a lot of "sediment" in there from the yeast, the orange zest/pulp, the raisins etc. Bread yeast does not flocculate very well, meaning that it does not settle and pack down the way other brewing and vintning yeasts will do. I did "cold-crash" the fermenter for a couple of days, and this helped quite a bit to settle the yeast down. The half-bottle was sampled and we were pretty impressed with it. I think with a little bit of aging it will be really good. It might be a very wee bit sweet for my taste, but I certainly will not criticize it. The recipe - as written - tells you to include the orange peel for a reason; this is, I believe in order to balance the inherent sweetness of this mead. Id departed from that instruction, so the consequences are mine. Having said that, it tastes pretty good, anyway! I'll give it a month or two to settle from the "bottle shock," then will see how it is. The bulk of this mead will be held in reserve until Christmastime, when it will, I think, be a welcome part of the holiday cheer. Ron |
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Well, everyone - I am going to call this a success! The mead is actually much more clear than the photo indicates; I took several pictures, but the one that turned out best was from the last glass that we poured, so a little bit of sediment had kicked up; considering the bread yeast that is used, it only takes a little to affect the clarity. The taste, in my opinion, is what counts, and this was very good. The spices were in perfect balance, for me, and the honey came through beautifully. I know that by mead standards this is very young, but I honestly don't see why it can't be enjoyed - and enjoyed very much - at this stage. As noted above, the only major departure from the recipe/method is that I used orange zest rather than whole peel; this worked well for me, but it was probably a mite sweet, compared to what it "should" be. I liked it this way, but the next time I make it I will use the whole peel; Ill then compare the results and go forward with what I prefer. Other than that, I wouldn't change anything. The orange and spice are spectacular here, and make a very drinkable mead. I have a good supply left that I will "try" to save for Christmas, but it may not last that long. If you want to dip your toes into meadmaking, this is a great gateway and worth a shot; just remember that it does break a lot of "rules," but if you follow it, you will end up with good results. |
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Sounds greaat. Was wondering since your first post, "How sweet is it going to be?" If all the sugar turns to alcohol, then I could drink some. If it still has a sweet taste probably has a good bit of sugar left in it, diabetic can't do.
But it sure looks inviting in that glass!
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Hi, Bear -
This particular batch came out a bit sweet; a person could dry it out quite a bit by using less honey and/or using a different yeast. There are several yeasts that would chew through the sugars a lot more efficiently, but part of the intended outcome of this particular mead leaves it somewhat sweet. If a person were going for a drier mead, I think the spices would still shine through really nicely.
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