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    Posted: 06 September 2013 at 11:54
Fella's;

Since I live in an enlightened state that allows taking some grouse with a rifle, I took a trip to the range this morning to determine which 10/22 I was going to use for grouse this year. The canidates were a Deluxe and an International. A little history: my son had his POS Blurris drop the reticle so I lent him the Sightron 3-9X rimfire I'd had on the Deluxe. Consequently, with the Sightron back on it, the Deluxe had to be re-sighted in. The International was a known proposition & it went just to see if a couple of new ammo types would work better than what had been working.

I set up targets at 25 yards in a calm & got busy with the Deluxe. It was approximately 7.5" left and 6" low from point of aim. So some time was spent twisting scope dials. Once I got it shooting somewhere near POA, I tried some Winchester 555 bulk box to see what it'd give me for a group. First one was .442" at 25 yards. Nice, but not great. After that, the next two groups opened up & I actually felt that they were probably more typical of the true accuracy of this rifle/ammo combination. The last group had three touching, but two non-fliers that just opened things up to a .632". My book on this gun said that it likes CCI Mini-Mags the best so that's where we went. That group went .264", which is head-of-grouse capable. Good enough for me, no sense using any more precious ammunition.

The International was also fed the Winchester 555. First group put four into .284" with a called flier opening it up. My fault on the flier, and no sense shooting any more with this gun anyway. As the International only allows for a 1" sling, and I despise them, it was somewhat of a long shot to make the grade for hunting anyway.

On that subject, I contacted Turner Saddlery about the possibility of having them make me a couple of their excellent National Match slings in one inch width. They politely declined, and I don't blame 'em either. Got a nice e-mail return message from them that detailed why it was impractical to do so. Well, drat!

Oh, and for those of you who are aghast at the idea of shooting grouse with anything but a shottie, it's obvious that you haven't run across what we call "Fool Hens". Those you have to walk up to, grab, find an open area in the woods, and punt the little so-an-so's into the air. It's too much work & I'm getting too old to engage in football tactics to hunt birds. Better to head-shoot 'em since it's legal.

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By all means!!
Turkey in the fall can also be rifled.
Anyone that thinks this is unfair has never tried it. The bird still has the greatest advantage, for sure. The Boy was up in the Kings hill area Thursday and got a limit of Dusky grouse with the 22 revolver and his 410. Walk the logging roads there is a LOT of them to be had this year, according to him.
My 10/22 loves mini mags too, and stingers, you know where we can get any ?? I'm down to under 1000 of them.


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This year, I'm going to use the cap and ball, instead of the 22 pistol.  No, I'm not going for head shots or on the wing.  They seem to run in cycles, some years they're everywhere and then some years, like last they're scarce.
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The western grouse are a way different spieces than the eastern ruffed grouse.  eastern birds hide and spook into flight at mach 2.  Frist out west bird I saw looked like he was on fermented berries, just stood there and moved his head aroound a few times in the open then slowly walked away.
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We Have ruffed grouse too and they do spook easily, but where they live they rarely get hunted. The spouse grouse AKA Fools hen you can hit with a stick, as kids we would shoot them with our sling shots.
The Dusky formally known as a blue grouse are a bit bigger and a little more skittish and will fly fairly easily. Sharp tailed grouse are a pheasant type bird and will try to sneak away rather then fly but will EXPODE out of the grass with you standing in a flock of 50 birds... Then there is the sage grouse, the biggest of all and well lets say not the smartest bird in the flock , like a fool hen. Fun to hunt and shoot but there SO slow in the air you shoot every shell you have in FROUNT of the bird, well...there grouse 101.
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Hunted grouse today in the Little Belt mountains.  We saw four, shot none.  The four were sitting on the side of the road pecking gravel as we came around a corner.  Stopped maybe 30 yards from them.  Sixty yards beyond the birds was the tailgate of a parked pickup.  And it's not legal to shoot from or across a road.  So, in the course of manuvering to get a shot, the grouse decided that we were up to no good, from their point of view.  Therefore, they departed in a direction, of course, that allowed no shot.

We were forced to go to the Lazy Doe & down giant cheeseburgers.

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I used to get a few partridge coming out from deer
hunting
noontime. I used my 38-55 Win 94. They always would run
down the woods road and stop 30 feet or so and freeze. I
would pull a bead on them just below the head and I don't
remember missing any. Fast forward to the time I decided
to hunt with a more powerful and more accurate rifle, a
Win 70 30-06 with a Weaver v-8, 180 grain RN.
Well...Puffed chest and
charged up me was walking out one noontime and a
partridge took off running down the woods road like
always. It stopped, like always. And like always I put
the scope on his neck and fired. But.....unlike always
there was a cloud of partridge feathers in the air when I
looked over the scope. Not much left of the
partridge....nothing actually. Just a footprint of
partridge parts and feathers on the ground. I didn't know
about the difference in close up scope height over the
muzzle.....but I never forgot it after that.

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Our woodcock season is the same time as grouse season, and they generally like the heavy brush that the grouse frequently reside in. A couple years ago my son shot 3 wood cocks in one day.....all within 15 feet of him....with a 12 gauge.....we did find a couple feathers that still had burger bits attached but they were tiny! He has never made those mistakes since.

The neighbors just clear-cut 1200 acres behind my place and left all the tops everywhere. It already has some browse starting and next year will be unreal for hunting the birds!
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Fella's;

I think I'm about convinced to take the scope off of one of my 10/22's & put some sort of red-dot/holo dot sight on it for grouse.  Most .22 shots are within 30 yards max, & the closest ones, as has been stated, you can almost put the muzzle on the feathers.  Scopes just don't focus that close & I hate taking a shot with a blurry sight picture.

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If your going to hunt with it I don't think it can be battery operated.

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..............nevermind
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You can't use red dot on bow. but on rifle, I think it's OK, as long as it doesn't project light forward, laser no, red dot, illum. scope OK.

Seems like someone, checked with MTFWP last year.

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I thought Even lighted cross hairs where a No No !
I do know a red dot, even a very good one, the dot is to big. On a 12 gauge over 223 rifle we had for coyotes the dot would completely cover a coyote at 150 yards.


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Many of the newer red dot sights, those made since the 1880's, have a control that lets you change the size of the dot.  They also allow you, in many cases, to project different reticles too.  I'm learnin' all sortsa new stuff about these things as I'm doin' my research. 

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It's My boys gun so I don't know the particulates, brand, type, price ext. I DO know he normally doesn't cheep out. The one he had on it had 5 different sizes and two colors and they where all to big to use with the rifle part . It worked with the shotgun part. PS It was newer then 1880
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Everyone these days are making finer red-dots and illuminated reticule designs. Pre-9-11 days the dots were huge. Trijicon makes many fixed power from 1x up. ATN makes some awesome big scopes that "do it all for you". Leu even does some in the safari line. Many are size adjustable, brightness adjustable, some are even color changeable for different conditions or even able to shut off and a fine black 1/8th black dot remains.....lots to look at these days!
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