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    Posted: 06 January 2009 at 13:56

This is a true story of something that happened just a few years ago at,I thought it was something to think about after our last little topic.

USC..

There was a professor of philosophy there who was a deeply committed

atheist.

His primary goal for one required class was to spend the entire semester

to prove that God couldn't exist.

His students were always afraid to argue with him because of his

impeccable logic.

Sure, some had argued in class at times, but no one had ever really gone

against him because of his reputation.

At the end of every semester on the last day, he would say to his class of

300 students, 'If there is anyone here who still believes in Jesus, stand

up!'

In twenty years, no one had ever stood up. They knew what he was going to

do next. He would say, 'Because anyone who believes in God is a fool'.

If God existed, he could stop this piece of chalk from hitting the ground

and breaking.. Such a simple task to prove that He is God, and yet He can't

do it.'

And every year, he would drop the chalk onto the tile floor of the

classroom and it would shatter into a hundred pieces.

All of the students would do nothing but stop and stare.

Most of the students thought that God couldn't exist. Certainly, a number

of Christians had slipped through, but! For 20 years, they had been too

afraid to stand up.

Well, a few years ago there was a freshman who happened to enroll.

He was a Christian, and had heard the stories about his professor.

He was required to take the class for his major, and he was afraid. But

for three months that semester, he prayed every morning that he would have

the courage to stand up no matter what the professor said, or what the

class thought.

Nothing they said could ever shatter his faith...he hoped.

Finally, the day came. ! The professor said, 'If there is anyone here who

still believes in God, stand up!' The professor and the class of 300 people

looked at him, shocked, as he stood up at the back of the classroom.

The professor shouted, 'You FOOL!!!

If God existed, he would keep this piece of chalk from breaking when it

hit the ground!'

He proceeded to drop the cha lk, but as he did, it slipped out of his

fingers, off his shirt cuff, onto the pleat of his pants, down his leg, and

off his shoe. As it hit the ground, it simply rolled away unbroken. The

professor's jaw dropped as he stared at the chalk. He looked up at the

young man, and then ran out of the lecture hall.

The young man who had stood, proceeded to walk to the front of the room

and shared his faith in Jesus for the next half hour. 300 students stayed

and listened as he told of God's love for them and of His power through

Jesus.



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Cute story meant to illicit an emotional response.  You don't need cute fabricated stories to find justification for questioning whether the idea of a supreme being is a holdover from the dark ages.  You need only look at the news.  To say there is a god, and then to say he somehow favors certain persons or is somehow disposed to acts of arbitrarily=defined "goodness" supsiciously bestowed on "believers" is contradicted each day, and cute stories meant to maintain interest in a billion dollar business of faith peddling are sold and bought by the desperate sheep who would not understand true philosophical logic anymore than they understand what makes them search for a reassurance to begin with.

No philosopher would call a person a fool for a religious belief.  By definition, faith-based values defy logic, and a person subscribing to those beliefs is going with the social flow, making their own life easier by doing so, so the term fool is really more appropriate for those who reveal religion to be self-deceptive gibberish and open themselves to ridicule and the anxiety that comes with facing the unveiled truth about our existence.



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 Hey Mule

 Whats cool is you read it and a little of the basic message about God's word is there. And a little in the last one you read and so on and so on.

 What I hope happens is one day,all of the so called ,"Gibberish" will come together from little bits and peices you and anyone who's read anything about Jesus sees. When it does,thats when real life begins and how does it go ,"And the blind shall see".

 Take care.

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mike - here's one i got recently and really liked:

 

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I have no way to know who sent it, but there is a beautiful soul working in the dead letter office of the US Postal Service.


Our 14 year old dog, Abbey died last month.
 
The day after she died, my 4 year old daughter Meredith was crying that when Abbey got to heaven, God wouldn't recognize her, and could we send him a letter? I told her that I thought we could, so she dictated these words:

Dear God:

Will you please take care of my dog? She died yesterday and is with you in heaven. I miss her very much.
 
I am happy that you let me have her as my dog even though she got sick.

I hope you will play with her. She likes to play with balls and to swim. I am sending a picture of her so when you see her.
 
You will know that she is my dog. I really miss her.
 
Love, Meredith


We put the letter in an envelope with a picture of Abbey and Meredith and addressed it to God/Heaven...
 
Then Meredith pasted several stamps on the front of the envelope because she said it would take lots of stamps on the front of the envelope to get the letter all the way to Heaven. That afternoon, I drove Meredith to the Post office and watched her drop it in a letter box.. A few days later, she asked if God had gotten the letter yet.
 
I told her that I was certain He had.

Yesterday, there was a package wrapped in gold paper on our front porch addressed, 
 
'To Meredith ,' in an unfamiliar hand.  Meredith opened it.  
 
Inside was a book by Mr. Rogers called, 'When a Pet Dies.' Taped to the inside front cover was the letter we had written to God in its opened envelope.
 
On the opposite page was the picture of Abbey & Meredith and this note:  


Dear Meredith:

Abbey arrived safely in heaven. 

Having the picture was a big help. I recognized Abbey right away... 

Abbey isn't sick anymore. Her spirit is here with me just like it stays in your heart. Abbey loved being your dog.  
 
Since we don't need  our bodies in heaven, I don't have any pockets to keep your picture in, so I am sending it back to you in this little book for you to keep and have something to remember Abbey by.

Thank you for the beaut iful letter and thank your mother for helping you write it and sending it to me.
 
What a wonderful mother you have. I picked her especially for you. 

I send my blessings every day and remember that I love you very much.

By the way, I'm easy to find. I am wherever there is love.

Love,
God

Betcha might have a lump in your throat or a tear in your eye after reading this.  

It's nice to know that there are still a few nice people in this crazy world we live in.

TasunkaWitko - Chinook, Montana

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Pass the kleenex please.

 

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Maybe it wasn't from a person in the dead letter office.  Maybe...it's a miracle!  Cute kid, cute story, still sentimental gibberish.
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mule - you have just earned your AKA - enjoy!
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Sorry to be the bubble buster.  Someone's gotta be the voice of reason.
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