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    Posted: 08 June 2006 at 16:23
Is there such a critter other than Savage?  I'd like to keep it in the ~$500 range for my 15 year old son.  Something along the lines of a .243 - 7mm=08...
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And what's wrong with a SAVAGE? Hmmmmmm? Afraid he might hit what he aims at? Hmmmmm?
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Nothing "wrong" with Savage, I'd just like a few options for him to decide...
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The 760/7600 is not a bolt in the traditional sense.  BUT it is a turn bolt action, the bolt actually rotates with the action to lock the barrel.

These are extremely accurate rifles (shoot with the accuracy of a regular bolt action.  The Barrels are free floating also.  and they come in Lefty versions.  A 243 or a 308 would be a fine starting rifle.  You son could stay with it forever even.

It is the rifle I recommend for dads with left handed sons.  Some advantages are it is heavy and absorbs recoil.  It you buy the older model 760  in a right handed model it is very easy to just change the safety to left handed.  If you are not comfortable with working on the safety/trigger mechanism any smith can do it cheap.

There are some nice new 35 Remingtons now available, but they might be more than your son can handle, but great deer rifles.  The guns come in carbine and rifle versions.

One last thought.  CHECK if your son is right eye dominant.  many kids are left handed and right eye dominate; if so get him a right handed gun and he will shoot it better..

It is also a very viable thing to teach a starting Lefty shooter to shoot right handed from the beginning.  If he has been shooting lefty for years it is more difficult.

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Schlep;

Of course, if the kid is left eye dominant, just continue to let him shoot off the left shoulder.

Don't be afraid to find a used left hand bolt either.  The Remington 788 was made in a left bolt version in 6mm & .308.  I have a 6mm & it's a shooter.  The Rem 700's are also made in a variety of calibers in left.  As are the Ruger 77's and Winchester's.  However, trying to find a Winchester new model classic left for under $500.00 these days is gonna be a trick.

There are some Euro's in LHB too, but not within the budget I think.  But I get kinda goofy when I think of a 1950 LHB Mannlicher-Schoenauer carbine in 6.5 X 55 Swede. 

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Originally posted by CB900F CB900F wrote:

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But I get kinda goofy. 

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I found a Rem 788 6mm for $250, needs a bolt and a mag, but looks in great shape otherwise.  Is this a fair price?  And, are there LH bolts available?
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You will need to get the LH version.

Also, if you reload, you can get a used lefty Ruger in the cheap. My dad got mine for 280 bucks. Of course, it is .30-06, but the .25-06 is also available. He got it for me when I was 14, so in essence I have been shooting full power .30-06 since I was 14. If you don't reload, there is always the Remington or Federal low recoil loads. The .30-06 is also more versatile than the .243 or 7mm-08.

Just some words of advice from someone who was in your son's place a few years ago.


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 Also I gotta agree with Bear I have a couple of 760's and 7600's all are great hunting rifles. Also how about a lever gun,don't know where you hunt but I just picked up a Ruger mod. 96 in .44 mag,shoots good and not recoil. I know this is a small bit over your budget but,fine rifle will last him many years and they have been going up since they came out.

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Right now I have two guns at the smith getting prepped for prairie dogs. One is a LH Savage Model 11 in .243, which is a great gun and the other is a LH Rem 700 in 22-250.

The guns are out there, it just depends on how much you want to spend. I was able to find  the 22-250 for under 500 dollars, but it took a while. The Savage on the other hand was even less than your budget, even after putting a Nikon Buckmaster on it. (the scope was a Midway closeout).

 

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Schlep;

If the Remington 788 does not have a mag, it is a bad deal!  Magazines for 6mm Remington 788's are now typically running $100.00, or more.  Beware the 6mm mags that have been converted from something else, they rarely work well.

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Buy him a 243 Encore and get to shooting. I shoot lefthanded but have always shot righthanded rifles and they don't cause me any problems. Get that first round in the boiler room and a quick second shot is not necessary
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"...I found a Rem 788 6mm for $250, needs a bolt and a mag, but looks in great shape otherwise.  Is this a fair price?  And, are there LH bolts available? "

Seems a fir price would be free.  Clips are tough and expensive.  LH bolts somewhat tougher, and YOU WILL NEED TO GET IT HEADSPACED BY A "SMITH THAT HAS SOME 6MM GO-NO-GO GAGES.

Probably get that manlicher by the time you are done and you would still only have 788!

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Well, as far as savages go, I was at a nice little gunshop the other day and handled one of those Savage lefty package guns. Handled pretty nice if you ask me.

The problem with Encores is that they are a love/hate thing. More people hate them than love them, and I must admit that I am an encore hater. I lucked out by getting a used lefty Ruger in .30-06, well, my dad did technically, and that was 4-5 years ago. The recoil of the .30-06 ain't all that bad with 150's. As the honorable (well, not sure if that is the right word to use) Kingpin would say, "Recoil is relative"
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Well, he has fired a 30-06 and says he does not want one.  <shrug>  I'm partial to 7mm stuff myself, 7mm-08, 280 Rem, 7x57, etc...  a lever gun was discussed...  he wasn't too into that.  we also NEF singleshots...  he liked the one we looked at...  so, we'll see...
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Nothing wrong with a savage. I would put them up against the best after they invented a non-working particle beam LASER, which is about what a few folks are willing to accept. Being me, I would NEVER give a youngster a savage, lest he found out in later years that he figured out what I thought of him. Savages are entry level guns on any plane, and nothing is wrong with them, until the shooter finds out that there is anything better, including a slingshot. Things like a quality stock, real triggers and the like, really mean a lot to a dedicated rifleman. I refuse to go into scopes after this. When he was old enough, I handed my son a Remington 700 in .308. I did a little work to it before he got it, but it was all quality, including the scope. A year later, on his birthday, I gave him a custom match, Springfield M1A rifle. He has never had to suffer a savage, as I know his abilities are lightyears of the light year of work I would have to do to a savage to make it an accurate, quality piece, which a rifle with "savage" stamped on it has neither the intention or the ability, to shoot like he or I do. That being said, the savage is a fine rifle.......for some.......................................Kingpin
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